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That's deep spectra ... then light is like that if illuminating the deeper stuff ... some need to be way up to grasp ... there are differences of opinion. If you see many ways it helps ... if going off in all directions is that deep or just spreading? That should encompass that ... literary enigma! All is paradox because of hiddenness ... clearly unseen!

Something bigger saves for tomorrows blast ... leaders will provide (consider Trump and his friends)! Human input of err, Eire, airish MS Takes?

Then there is the question of buns Hun ... don't get em up so quick ...
 
Waterfall said:
Are these the real colours or is it artistically enhanced?
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It will likely be enhanced. The Webb actually uses infrared rather than visible light so the actual data would not look that way, I don't think.

All the space YouTubers are, needless to say, bouncing off the walls with this news.
 
Just to show that Webb is about more than pretty pictures, here's a spectroscopic analysis of an exoplanet's atmosphere clearly showing the presence of water. The planet is not one conducive to life as we know it (it's a gas giant), but it shows what the telescope is capable of.

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Is it true that the James Webb telescope has been damaged beyond repair by asteroids? Or is it fake news I'm reading?
 
Waterfall said:
Is it true that the James Webb telescope has been damaged beyond repair by asteroids? Or is it fake news I'm reading?
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No, it was hit by a micro-meteroid, which are 1g or less that managed to cause more damage than had been anticipated to one mirror segment. The engineers, being the miracle workers they tend to be (Scotty in Star Trek is only slightly fictional in that regard), realigned the other segments to offset the loss of data from that segment. They say the big scope is still exceeding expectations at this point and the big takeaway is they the need to reinvestigate their models for micrometeroid strikes on Webb since this one exceeded what they had expected from earlier modelling. Unfortunately, if it happened once, it can happen again.

globalnews.ca

Micrometeoroid causes ‘uncorrectable’ damage to James Webb Space Telescope - National | Globalnews.ca

The $10-billion space telescope suffered damage to segment C3 of its mirror array, but its performance is still exceeding scientists' expectations.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca
 
Mendalla said:
No, it was hit by a micro-meteroid, which are 1g or less that managed to cause more damage than had been anticipated to one mirror segment. The engineers, being the miracle workers they tend to be (Scotty in Star Trek is only slightly fictional in that regard), realigned the other segments to offset the loss of data from that segment. They say the big scope is still exceeding expectations at this point and the big takeaway is they the need to reinvestigate their models for micrometeroid strikes on Webb since this one exceeded what they had expected from earlier modelling. Unfortunately, if it happened once, it can happen again.

globalnews.ca

Micrometeoroid causes ‘uncorrectable’ damage to James Webb Space Telescope - National | Globalnews.ca

The $10-billion space telescope suffered damage to segment C3 of its mirror array, but its performance is still exceeding scientists' expectations.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca
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That's crazy, I read 3 articles that said it was struck by a large meteor shower and damaged beyond repair....brother!!!
Thanks
 
Waterfall said:
That's crazy, I read 3 articles that said it was struck by a large meteor shower and damaged beyond repair....brother!!!
Thanks
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Well, it technically can't be repaired (too far from Earth) but it is still usable and the results are spectacular. Sounds like clickbait to me.
 
So today was supposed to be the big day. NASA's new SLS rocket launching the first mission of the Artemis series. This one is uncrewed to test everything out. I think the first crewed flight is scheduled to be Artemis 3(?). And, perhaps not unexpectedly for a sort-of new rocket (I'll explain in a minute), the launch was scrubbed due to issues with the beast. Fuel leak.

MSN

www.msn.com

Here's the thing, the SLS is the descendent of an absolutely ancient program to put humans back on the moon and even to Mars. It has been in development so long that it actually has parts (e.g. its solid rocket boosters) from the space shuttle in/on it. And that constant delay can be laid squarely at the feet of politicians messing with NASA's budget as can the fact that they are still going ahead instead of letting one of the private partners handle the Artemis program (e.g. SpaceX's Starship + Super Heavy is likely doing its first test flight soon and is also capable of lunar missions). Basically, Congress wanted the lucrative contracts for contractors in their states/ridings but were less interested in actually flying to the moon until Trump made it a priority during his tenure in the White House. Which is something that constantly dogs both NASA and the Pentagon: Often those huge government contracts we hear about are as much industrial subsidies to create jobs in the constituencies of the politicians voting for them as actually creating usable technology.
 
Mendalla said:
So today was supposed to be the big day. NASA's new SLS rocket launching the first mission of the Artemis series. This one is uncrewed to test everything out. I think the first crewed flight is scheduled to be Artemis 3(?). And, perhaps not unexpectedly for a sort-of new rocket (I'll explain in a minute), the launch was scrubbed due to issues with the beast. Fuel leak.

MSN

www.msn.com

Here's the thing, the SLS is the descendent of an absolutely ancient program to put humans back on the moon and even to Mars. It has been in development so long that it actually has parts (e.g. its solid rocket boosters) from the space shuttle in/on it. And that constant delay can be laid squarely at the feet of politicians messing with NASA's budget as can the fact that they are still going ahead instead of letting one of the private partners handle the Artemis program (e.g. SpaceX's Starship + Super Heavy is likely doing its first test flight soon and is also capable of lunar missions). Basically, Congress wanted the lucrative contracts for contractors in their states/ridings but were less interested in actually flying to the moon until Trump made it a priority during his tenure in the White House. Which is something that constantly dogs both NASA and the Pentagon: Often those huge government contracts we hear about are as much industrial subsidies to create jobs in the constituencies of the politicians voting for them as actually creating usable technology.
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Recall that politicians are favoured things for folks to vote for so as to avoid composite conclusions! Thus divinised ...
 
Luce NDs said:
Recall that politicians are favoured things for folks to vote for so as to avoid composite conclusions!
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Too many decisions are made because of votes, not reason, eh. That's the downside of our system and I don't how we fix it without less democracy and more centralization of power. Singapore did it by having a very centralized, borderline authoritarian, presidency but they are also quite tiny. It's issues like this that led to Plato's Republic and its philosopher-kings. But that's a thread for Politics, me thinks.
 
Mendalla said:
Too many decisions are made because of votes, not reason, eh. That's the downside of our system and I don't how we fix it without less democracy and more centralization of power. Singapore did it by having a very centralized, borderline authoritarian, presidency but they are also quite tiny. It's issues like this that led to Plato's Republic and its philosopher-kings. But that's a thread for Politics, me thinks.
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Should we lean more towards Socrates in his definition of knowing self better ... which few people understand as they look out to defeat the other as alternate? In integral one could say that humans chose to know less or even Minus ... giving rise to the composite awareness of holes and patches ... well soled as in sandals ... Jah Sue's booted ... and nothing but darkness remained to sustain the mystery ... shady Ness? Imagine wee crooked Maan ... all wended ... when airless ... fallacy of reason!
So breathe ... yet some leaders praise the carbonizing of the environment ... leading to gargantuan alternates of the denied demons ... democrats? Happens when much of what is becomes denied and eliminated due to non-appreciation and decline of respectability all around ... degrading Sows and sewing of eddies ... spun fabrications ... to offset the lies told about what these elite really know ... thus mythologists! Sometimes called symbiology ... symbiotic?

Ide may manifest ... knowing no mollification or gentility ... of the bottom line!

Hard types will carry on with elimination ...
 
Well
NASA is launching a HOOGE ROD INTO THE SKY. At the Moon

Codenamed Artemis. Goddess of the Hunt. Childbirth. The wild. Chastity. The moon.

Which allegedly a star team has made it possible so people can VR the event. Wowzers

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Artemis I Launch: How an Emmy-Winning Team is Prepping a Virtual Reality Livestream

The launch of the test flight is scheduled for Monday.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

Womaned and POC'd 1sts as well :3
 
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Eros continues to Mars and thus conflicts over red things ... well little else is sensible ... so why not insensible in the consortium of insanity?

Still can't see it ...
 
Looks like the launch is now booked for Saturday with the window opening at 2:17pm and lasting until 4:17pm. That's assuming analysis of what happened Monday doesn't turn up anything too nasty.
 
Mendalla said:
Looks like the launch is now booked for Saturday with the window opening at 2:17pm and lasting until 4:17pm. That's assuming analysis of what happened Monday doesn't turn up anything too nasty.
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Off topic...I wonder what happens if you take the Covid virus to the moon?
 
Waterfall said:
Off topic...I wonder what happens if you take the Covid virus to the moon?
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Nothing really. Even viruses can't live in that environment and an airborne virus could only be transmitted inside the spacecraft or a habitat is we build one there. Of course being seriously ill 3 days+ from the nearest hospital is a serious problem, but that doesn't have to be COVID. Any infectious virus would be a risk.

Mars is the greater risk. With a bit of an atmosphere and possibly some niches where conditions conducive to microbial life might exist, viruses or even bacteria could find a way to get a foothold.
 
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