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Good Monday morn, all. As we think of backyard chickens, porches, friends who seem to believe the unbelievable, medical issues, etc, let us gather round the coffee cart, for good company and hot beverages. Alli ios ready, even the doughnuts are (reasonably) fresh.

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Good Monday morn, all. As we think of backyard chickens, porches, friends who seem to believe the unbelievable, medical issues, etc, let us gather round the coffee cart, for good company and hot beverages. Alli ios ready, even the doughnuts are (reasonably) fresh.

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Who cares about fresh? Calorie free is good enough for the coffee cart
 
Today my goal is to encourage my husband to relax and eat well. He is on hormone therapy for prostate cancer, and due to get his second injection next month. His brother-in-law told him: Get everything done before that second shot because it will really wipe you out! So husband has been working too hard, trying to do it all. So today...due to very high heat...I've convinced him to take it his version of easy, which means he is still cooking ribs, creating works of art out of wood, taking my mom out for coffee, etc. But it's better than working by shovelling gravel in the heat!
 
I've been thinking about our visit with friends yesterday. They were surprisingly deep into the conspiracy theories. That was a surprise, especially from her. They (she?) called the mayor of this city "woke". I keep replaying the conversation. I want to ask her to define "woke" as she is using it. I want to ask her when she changed into a person who uses such labels.

I told her she is welcome to come out for a visit and tea. I would feel very comfortable having this discussion in person. Part of me wants to start the discussion through Messenger or texting.

How would you respond to this?

I am likely well into the "woke" category by their definition.

I'm not sure I can be friends with someone so hateful (apparently)
Wishing you luck with that. My brother has fallen deep into the rabbit hole. The signs were there and I missed them. I thought he was just being an ornery contrarian when he talked viciously about JT because I wasn't aware of the larger movement at first. I knew he always embraced nonconformity too, like distrust of medicine (except when he needed open heart surgery) and a seeming penchant for quackery. All harmless in isolation, but as a whole, it's like he's been replaced by an alien. All hidden in plain sight. First clue I got was a message inviting me to look at Pat King's videos. I thought he was more "intelligent" (he usually is and I have admired his views in the past). Lost a couple of old friends too. I got dismayed every time someone mentioned what "they" were doing. Sigh. I expect it's pointless to try to change their mind.
My theory is that these are Canada's mass of disenfranchised citizens who feel they've been overlooked by the "elite" and they up for a fight. Throw in pandemic exhaustion to boot. The same situation that got trump elected.
End of rant.
Apart from that, hope everyone's staying cool
 
Good morning, all! As we express concern for family members' health issues, and about people who seem to slip down the wascawwy wabbit holes all around, let us gather and regroup around the coffee cart. All is ready== coffee, tea, etc., mutual support.

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It is the paradox of a service industry that gets hooker 'd into sales and forgot their primary source of appreciation, onus and culpability if they fail ... the hole thing collapses into a hard place ... that's life! Another skill gone astray because of the chit attached to the carry-out ... more crocks? Few understand that deeper cut ... being sharp! Then there are the pointy urchins of literary nature ... with device?
In the end no one knows how to do anything and the drain is accomplished ... Gods indigenous recycle ... give and receive ... and thus it comes back to satyr ... mulish carriers with persistence ... buried out of site! Beyond me ... like subtle Pan Tyres ... always connections! Accept it goes round ... just look up in the dark ... Don' das a mysterious realm needing a myth ...

Did I say that In ancient Celts, Don/Ron was just another hole place ? That's described transmutation of semiotic ... IC on et!
 
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Wishing you luck with that. My brother has fallen deep into the rabbit hole. The signs were there and I missed them. I thought he was just being an ornery contrarian when he talked viciously about JT because I wasn't aware of the larger movement at first. I knew he always embraced nonconformity too, like distrust of medicine (except when he needed open heart surgery) and a seeming penchant for quackery. All harmless in isolation, but as a whole, it's like he's been replaced by an alien. All hidden in plain sight. First clue I got was a message inviting me to look at Pat King's videos. I thought he was more "intelligent" (he usually is and I have admired his views in the past). Lost a couple of old friends too. I got dismayed every time someone mentioned what "they" were doing. Sigh. I expect it's pointless to try to change their mind.
My theory is that these are Canada's mass of disenfranchised citizens who feel they've been overlooked by the "elite" and they up for a fight. Throw in pandemic exhaustion to boot. The same situation that got trump elected.
End of rant.
Apart from that, hope everyone's staying cool
I'm surrounded by people who are into conspiracy theories but they don't call them that. My husband has always tended that way, and I see evidence of it in my three kids. (This doesn't help right now when husband is dealing with cancer because he doesn't trust the doctors). All are not as far out as Pat King (from my home town, sigh) but they talk viciously and hatefully about political leaders, and talk about the monied 'they' as controlling certain things. I, too, have changed my way of thinking about leadership, and feel somewhat left out of the grand scheme of who does well and who doesn't. But, if I haven't stepped up to provide better leadership, my options are respectful protest, and support for anyone who is providing the leadership I think we need. Recently, I filled out a political survey and it is the first time I really gave them my cranky opinion. I said that they were wording the questionnaire in a way to make me think ill of certain parties and certain decisions: the survey was trying to sway my opinion AND it was asking questions that could only misdirect. I'm tired of the media, and the information gatherers trying to influence me. The scripture reading this week was about Mary at Jesus feet, listening without distraction. That's what I'm trying to do right now...not be distracted by political pundits, or experts if they are leading away from my core values.
 
Imagine leading questions that would drive some of us to distraction and dissemination as if suffering dispersal, etc. Sometimes the word diaspora suffices ... and thus we suffer data, info, and other crappy intelligence!

Man Heures ???
 
My theory is that these are Canada's mass of disenfranchised citizens who feel they've been overlooked by the "elite" and they up for a fight. Throw in pandemic exhaustion to boot.

I want to understand that disenfranchised people are the ones protesting. I know many people who are protesting are disenfranchised. This man is a retired RCMP officer. He's hardly disenfranchised. He's an intelligent, well read man. I knew him before he retired and always thought he was a good officer. Now I'm disturbed by the idea that he is so racist and about some of the views he holds. How did those views affect his work? What about other officers around here. I don't think being disenfranchised is the main issue here. I think there's something in the water. That being said, this is an area where people are independent, distrustful of government and hard workers. Don't even mention the name Trudeau around here....

(This doesn't help right now when husband is dealing with cancer because he doesn't trust the doctors).

My friends are eating more whole foods and want to move to an acreage so they can be more self-sufficient. I suspect they believe that is all they need to stay healthy. This in spite of her having a lung condition. I don't even want to know what they think of cancer and why I was diagnosed. I don't want to know what they think of doctors or medical treatments.
 
I want to understand that disenfranchised people are the ones protesting. I know many people who are protesting are disenfranchised. This man is a retired RCMP officer. He's hardly disenfranchised. He's an intelligent, well read man. I knew him before he retired and always thought he was a good officer. Now I'm disturbed by the idea that he is so racist and about some of the views he holds. How did those views affect his work? What about other officers around here. I don't think being disenfranchised is the main issue here. I think there's something in the water. That being said, this is an area where people are independent, distrustful of government and hard workers. Don't even mention the name Trudeau around here....



My friends are eating more whole foods and want to move to an acreage so they can be more self-sufficient. I suspect they believe that is all they need to stay healthy. This in spite of her having a lung condition. I don't even want to know what they think of cancer and why I was diagnosed. I don't want to know what they think of doctors or medical treatments.
Yeah...Maybe he's emboldened and supported to just be more transparent about what he always believed? There needs to be a dsm category for weaponized, comfortably-off, embittered white people too.
The Convoy Trucker crowd is who I had in mind. They are feeling really powerless...even though it seems foolish, because they have never known a lack of freedom.. The people I know who have bought in have always felt overlooked and never felt part of "the Corrupt System". Long before any of this.
Not saying the system ISN'T corrupt, but it has ever been so.
 
Yeah...Maybe he's emboldened and supported to just be more transparent about what he always believed? There needs to be a dsm category for weaponized, comfortably-off, embittered white people too.
The Convoy Trucker crowd is who I had in mind. They are feeling really powerless...even though it seems foolish, because they have never known a lack of freedom.. The people I know who have bought in have always felt overlooked and never felt part of "the Corrupt System". Long before any of this.
Not saying the system ISN'T corrupt, but it has ever been so.
Let's just not forget that unhappy people feeling disenfranchised have brought more than few authoritarian regimes to power. Even Hitler played on that kind of feeling in the Weimar Republic.
 
Let's just not forget that unhappy people feeling disenfranchised have brought more than few authoritarian regimes to power. Even Hitler played on that kind of feeling in the Weimar Republic.
What's concerning too is that tent is really big. Evangelicals, bikers, alternative health practitioners, gun advocates, white supremists and ordinary chumps just swept along in the current. Who doesn't want "freedom"? There really doesn't seem to be a particular unified cause. The people I know have always (I thought) been against right wing politics (maybe not my bro). One of those friends announced to me she was voting People's Party last election because they were the only ones promising body autonomy and "freedom". Before that, she wouldn't have dreamt of it, or advocated any of those policies.

That's one thing I find troubling.
 
Fascism is insidious and will look for any sociocultural channels to weasel their way in through. It’s definitely a bizarre wide ranging number of groups who may otherwise have nothing in common, that this round of fascism is exploiting and unifying. Things like Q anon tropes and other propaganda somehow melding in with each of these groups’ interests using appealing words that they may be familiar with in a different context, that hook onto feelings, etc. It’s very weird, for sure. It’s very weird, and sad to know that educated, intelligent, friends and family falling for it. It’s also pretty fricken dangerous.

They also use the mainstream middle to play bait n switch with - that probably gives more actual support to them than people realize.

It was to my horror to discover that Frucker Carlson (being polite) was criticizing MAiD on Fox. His angle was a hyperbolic criticism of Trudeau. That’s like red meat to the right’s base even if they could ultimately care less about the issue, or know nothing about it (which is likely - if Tuckers the first they’ve heard of it and the mainstream doesn’t want to touch it - that’s a problem). It’s an attempt to subvert all the hard work and effort coming from people very genuinely concerned, on the left, if the mainstream associates the cause with them/ him, they will ignore it. They know that we need mainstream allies. The right is not genuinely concerned - it’s a bunch of f*ckery. That’s what their spin machine does. If any conservative religious prolife types are concerned, it is not for the same reasons we are. We don’t appreciate their input - not from any of the right - in case anybody wonders where I stand.
 
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Who is disenfranchised? Are we talking about straight white men who can get the healthcare they need in a reasonable timeframe?
 
Who is disenfranchised? Are we talking about straight white men who can get the healthcare they need in a reasonable timeframe?

People who grew up in poverty, low education, various difficulties like physical, mental or developmental disabilities. Many people of colour. Most certainly not my retired white, male cop friend.

When I watched footage of the occupation in Ottawa, I did see people who fell into those categories. I saw marginalized people (even men) who did not have the skills to do well in our society. I would not say they were the majority.
 
Who is disenfranchised? Are we talking about straight white men who can get the healthcare they need in a reasonable timeframe?
I don't think these people are disenfranchised. But they feel disenfranchised, though, and how they feel probably matters more than the reality of their situation. They have jobs. They have healthcare. But they feel that the social progress made by us "woke" people is somehow taking away from their lives. Same-sex marriage devalues their marriage. Women doing their job devalues their work. Transpeople confuse them and seem to change the definitions that they have lived by. None of this is true, IMHO, but it's how they perceive reality. They want a white, male, Christian world where men are men and women are women and men marry women. Anything else should go back in the closet and stay there.
 
When the dominant cultural group starts to come up against what real equality should look like they feel persecuted. Real equality looks like evening the playing field - so when others justifiably fight for their equality, they feel discriminated against.
 
Just back from dentist with a brand new bridge installed to replace the one destroyed in "the great fall". The work was all pro bono, out of the goodness of his heart (my insurance wasn't going to pay twice in 3 months for a bridge over same teeth); he even claimed that the lab had used sub-spec materials and replaced the destroyed bridge for free. He's been my dentist for over 30 years, and has always been good and compassionate, but this was above and beyond.

And, to top off a good day, I have finally found a source for Melton Mowbray's pork pies. I did not know there was a lovely little British shop and tea shop just around the lakeshore.
 
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