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My stance is 'wait and see'. At the moment it appears I will be waiting until six months after my booster to get Jab 4. That is what they originally said about the Booster, and they changed the rules around that. No point in fretting about 'maybes'!
 
Me trying to sort out the specific situation is to be prepared. Dosing is one aspect. With Omicron still really high here too there is the potentially they reduce waiting period. If that's done, I am for the extra protection aspect right now with how this is spreading. Don't want to show up somewhere for an appointment with no one knowing what I need!

Sorting things out seems to take a lot of time.
 
Pharmacists are great. I couldn't find into on 4th dose dosages. For immunocompromised people it's not the healthy people booster strength, it's full dose. No one at AHS seemed to know that. So no question for my 4th dose as to dosage - unless something changes.

I was concerned that the plan for people like me would be full full full half and my position was full full half and then maybe full but proving that as it's not on the vaccine record isn't easy. Easy when it's all just supposed to be 4 full doses.
 
Waterfall said:
I'm not quite sure I agree with this, possibly because the man is only 31. I understand the reasoning behind it, but.......
What do you think?


www.theguardian.com

Patient removed from heart transplant list for refusing Covid-19 vaccine

DJ Ferguson, 31, had previously been prioritized for a transplant by Brigham and Women’s hospital in Boston
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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What about someone with a liver transplant who refuses to get vaccinated for hepatitis?
It's not like this is something that is COVID specific.
 
ChemGal said:
What about someone with a liver transplant who refuses to get vaccinated for hepatitis?
It's not like this is something that is COVID specific.
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It may well become something that is considered for all transplants at some hospitals.
 
Waterfall said:
It may well become something that is considered for all transplants at some hospitals.
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But it's not the only vaccine that is required. I would find it concerning if someone couldn't get a vaccine due to say an allergy and was denied a transplant. There's a lot of rules to transplants including things outside of people's control.
 
ChemGal said:
But it's not the only vaccine that is required. I would find it concerning if someone couldn't get a vaccine due to say an allergy and was denied a transplant. There's a lot of rules to transplants including things outside of people's control.
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I doubt it would be part of the criteria if a person was allergic to it.....which begs the question....then why not someone that just doesn't want it?
 
Waterfall said:
I doubt it would be part of the criteria if a person was allergic to it.....which begs the question....then why not someone that just doesn't want it?
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Because we can't give transplants to everyone who needs one and we are trying for the best possible outcomes.
 
This is actually where I do think we have precedent for using vaccination status in decisions like hospitalization. Normally? No. But when it mean some people cannot get other needed care, I can see prioritizing those who are vaccinated.
Ditto with things like limited COVID treatments.

I think it was CBC that had given various possible suggestions from doctors. One was doing proportional beds which I found interesting. 10% of the population isn't vaccinated, we allocate them 10% of the beds.
 
There's a lot that we require from patients at times. I have to submit my logs for my blood product use. If I refuse I'm cut off. There is a warning phase where I only get half. That actually happened because the clinic kept not checking off that they had received my logs. There was no exception because I'm in my 30s.
 
ChemGal said:
There's a lot that we require from patients at times. I have to submit my logs for my blood product use. If I refuse I'm cut off. There is a warning phase where I only get half. That actually happened because the clinic kept not checking off that they had received my logs. There was no exception because I'm in my 30s.
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I haven't watched it yet, but there's a movie on Netflix that has to do with all of these, (maybe more) questions, called the God Committee. Doctors have to choose between 3 candidates for a heart transplant....and their decision haunts them years later.

And yes, many things do have certain criteria, as you mentioned.
 
Waterfall said:
I haven't watched it yet, but there's a movie on Netflix that has to do with all of these, (maybe more) questions, called the God Committee. Doctors have to choose between 3 candidates for a heart transplant....and their decision haunts them years later.

And yes, many things do have certain criteria, as you mentioned.
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So why the issue with this particular case? His body, his choice, there are consequences. There are many others not getting the best care due to things that are not their choice.
 
ChemGal said:
So why the issue with this particular case? His body, his choice, there are consequences. There are many others not getting the best care due to things that are not their choice.
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I'm sure there are many cases like this, this one just happens to have been in the recent news. It makes us think....I think it's an easier answer if one is not related or has no connection to the one who needs the transplant.....but familiarity presents a whole different perspective, say if it is ourselves or a loved one.
 
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