I don't vaccinate my child because it's my right to determine which diseases come back
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I am not a person who's crippled with CP. that's offensive. PWD is just an acronym for people with disabilities. I don't like the disability label either but I 'll live with it until attitudes change.
BetteTheRed
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To cripple means to impede. It's not inaccurate, it's just not politically correct at present. As another thread has noted, words change fashion. Different generations may be comfortable with different words.
Yeah. Someone in my family still refers to black people or people of African descent as "coloureds" or "negoes". It was okay in her day but it certainly isn't now. She doesn't mean for it to demean but it has that affect because she hasn't changed her vocabulary in all these years.
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It's cringeworthy to hear it.
Lastpointe
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Makes you wonder why the NAACP still goes by their name
National american association of coloured persons
Words do change and they change their meaning
Old words like idiot, moron had to do with IQ. Back when measuring IQ was advanced science.
I also think that individuals can be over sensitive to words. My sister in law loses it over "ladies".
I expect that seeler choosing to use Crippling to describe her Parkinson's affects is using a word that has meaning for her.
That would seem to me to be her right.
Just like American blacks call each other nigger but would be upset if i did
We all have trigger words though. For me and my kids it was stupid. It was just a word that really set me off for whatever reason
National american association of coloured persons
Words do change and they change their meaning
Old words like idiot, moron had to do with IQ. Back when measuring IQ was advanced science.
I also think that individuals can be over sensitive to words. My sister in law loses it over "ladies".
I expect that seeler choosing to use Crippling to describe her Parkinson's affects is using a word that has meaning for her.
That would seem to me to be her right.
Just like American blacks call each other nigger but would be upset if i did
We all have trigger words though. For me and my kids it was stupid. It was just a word that really set me off for whatever reason
It's probably why they just use the acronym now without spelling it out.
Lastpointe
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Always used naacp
Well now it's more relevant that they do use just NAACP.
Ritafee
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Common sense dictates that vaccines should be completely voluntary on the part of parents .. acting after first educating themselves to assure their "informed consent" to vaccinate their child is the absolutely right thing to do for that child.
The pro mandatory vaccinations rely on "compulsion" rather than "informed consent".
Common sense also dictates that vaccines .. even more so than any other product manufactured for use by the public .. should be safe enough to undergo all reasonable tests to assure that safety .. such as .. eagerly conducting an independent study of "vaccinated v. unvaccinated" populations to ascertain if BOTH populations have suffered the same dramatic, inexplicable .. increase in autoimmune diseases that were far less common in all previous .. less vaccinated generations.
Why is the CDC so terrified of conducting such a common sense study ...
The pro mandatory vaccinations rely on "compulsion" rather than "informed consent".
Common sense also dictates that vaccines .. even more so than any other product manufactured for use by the public .. should be safe enough to undergo all reasonable tests to assure that safety .. such as .. eagerly conducting an independent study of "vaccinated v. unvaccinated" populations to ascertain if BOTH populations have suffered the same dramatic, inexplicable .. increase in autoimmune diseases that were far less common in all previous .. less vaccinated generations.
Why is the CDC so terrified of conducting such a common sense study ...
Lastpointe
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Thanks. I thought i had the initials wrong, just couldnt remember it
I feel compelled to voice a different perspective about disabilities.
It actually gets me upset when people say things like - I like having depression because it makes me more sensitive to others or I can be more artistic and then try to extrapolate that to everyone with the disease. Or when people say things like when I ate better I got better so it is just a matter of people exercising and eating better. It's just way too simplistic and a one-size fits all does not fit anyone very well. Eating better and exercising does help me mitigate this freakin illness but for me it is not a cure.
I am not typical. I need accommodations that the majority of people don't need. I happen to not like it - it's very litterally a dis-ability. (Do not post the link to ablesim again, please). To say that the world should just be made differently so that no one is made to feel different just seems odd to me - simply (and crassly) majority rules (which is why I am suffering through a Harper government) - we take measures to make things more equitable but it is delusional to think that people shouldn't notice that you are not "typical". I am NOT saying that people should be mean or treat you as anything less than a worthwhile human being. When we buy scissors should we by default get two pairs in case someone in our household is a leftie? Should books all come with larger font because our aging population needs a bigger font?
At the other end of the spectrum is this guy that I sit on a committee with - he drives me crazy - he says "well, I'm kook-koo for Cocoa Puffs" so no one should take me seriously. That just encourages people to treat people with mental illness badly - it can also be seen as self-stigmatization.
It actually gets me upset when people say things like - I like having depression because it makes me more sensitive to others or I can be more artistic and then try to extrapolate that to everyone with the disease. Or when people say things like when I ate better I got better so it is just a matter of people exercising and eating better. It's just way too simplistic and a one-size fits all does not fit anyone very well. Eating better and exercising does help me mitigate this freakin illness but for me it is not a cure.
I am not typical. I need accommodations that the majority of people don't need. I happen to not like it - it's very litterally a dis-ability. (Do not post the link to ablesim again, please). To say that the world should just be made differently so that no one is made to feel different just seems odd to me - simply (and crassly) majority rules (which is why I am suffering through a Harper government) - we take measures to make things more equitable but it is delusional to think that people shouldn't notice that you are not "typical". I am NOT saying that people should be mean or treat you as anything less than a worthwhile human being. When we buy scissors should we by default get two pairs in case someone in our household is a leftie? Should books all come with larger font because our aging population needs a bigger font?
At the other end of the spectrum is this guy that I sit on a committee with - he drives me crazy - he says "well, I'm kook-koo for Cocoa Puffs" so no one should take me seriously. That just encourages people to treat people with mental illness badly - it can also be seen as self-stigmatization.
If you know someone in the house is a leftie buy two scissors. Yes. Or, in that house, maybe the righties can learn the leftie scissors instead, for a change.
Aging populations should have access to larger print books. Yes.
Having depression does bring out profound creativity in some people. That shouldn't be dismissed or made irrelevant to everyone either. It's a valid point of view for those who feel that way.
If we stop holding atypical up against typical - when "typical" and "independent" (somebody made your shoes that you need for your feet, somebody built your car, somebody installed your cable, somebody stocked the grocery store shelves -we're all interdependent in various ways) are elusive and inconsistent anyway - eventually we'll have just people. Maybe even people thinking about the needs of people around them.
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Pinga
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Hmm, maybe there should be a pill.....
When you take it, it randomly changes a characteristic about you. You have no idea what characteristic it is. You are required to take one pill every month.
The pill could2
affect your looks: typical mediocre, or a face that causes 2nd glances: either negative or positive
affect your physical ability: typically mediocre, or physical ability that is either a big challenge to your movement, or...a big asset to your movement
affect your vision: typically mediocre, or lesser or better -- maybe superman abilities
affect your hearing
affect your brain: cognitive abilities - avg, awesome, lesser
affect your brain: mental health -- avg, awesome, challenging --
and so on.
One of the random elements of this pill is that you are not guaranteed to go back to your previous state. Some of your changes may become permanent.
Given that there is a posture on this thread of not healing or stopping injuries as we need to focus on making our place more inclusive, than maybe a pill such as this would have a similar result.
What do you think? Good investment proposal and government mandated item?
If every month you throw a dice and could end up with some random item, then maybe...people would vote for more inclusive government packages, employment packages and laws.
When you take it, it randomly changes a characteristic about you. You have no idea what characteristic it is. You are required to take one pill every month.
The pill could2
affect your looks: typical mediocre, or a face that causes 2nd glances: either negative or positive
affect your physical ability: typically mediocre, or physical ability that is either a big challenge to your movement, or...a big asset to your movement
affect your vision: typically mediocre, or lesser or better -- maybe superman abilities
affect your hearing
affect your brain: cognitive abilities - avg, awesome, lesser
affect your brain: mental health -- avg, awesome, challenging --
and so on.
One of the random elements of this pill is that you are not guaranteed to go back to your previous state. Some of your changes may become permanent.
Given that there is a posture on this thread of not healing or stopping injuries as we need to focus on making our place more inclusive, than maybe a pill such as this would have a similar result.
What do you think? Good investment proposal and government mandated item?
If every month you throw a dice and could end up with some random item, then maybe...people would vote for more inclusive government packages, employment packages and laws.
What do I think? That sounds like a sociopathic idea. Forced Russian Roulette.
Life throws difficult curve balls as it is - we don't need to accelerate that process (that's just cruel), there are no guarantees what will happen, and things change - that's why inclusiveness is important. It's about appreciating differences and caring about each other. We can mitigate the negative effects of inequality - but not make it worse. Nobody said make it worse.
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Perhaps the pill would be your neighbour 2! That is if we cared for the details of life and not the rush towards competitiveness and conflict ... without resolution or adequate response allowing the eliminated to relate? Chimerii alchemy ... or the talent of relating to the stranger ... the Sam Eire Don !
Of course there is no freedom of choice ... cause the wee people don't know ... by religious hard-headed Ness!
Perhaps a few of the hard liners should lighten up?
As the Moderator of UCC said in recent publication ... why should death appear as a gross fear? The d'athe in Hebrew is wisdom ... the other side of the darkness ... a pall?
Perhaps a few of the hard liners should lighten up?
As the Moderator of UCC said in recent publication ... why should death appear as a gross fear? The d'athe in Hebrew is wisdom ... the other side of the darkness ... a pall?