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And there is absolutely nothing in this world that prevents a "disabled" person from being a "socially disabled" one. Put that in your pretentious little pipe and smoke it.

Life could be worse, on a whole bunch of levels, for a whole bunch of reasons, young-ish white colonial person?
 
Its as simple as this...an lgbtq person could not ask to be murdered by a doctor because the real reason is not that they are lgbtq, it’s because they live in a homophobic society and suffer poverty and lack of opportunity. We would never endorse the facilitation of them being killed by a doctor because the are lgbt, ever, nor should we. Society would address the suicidal ideation, the poverty, the social exclusion. Society just told us we’re not human enough for that, as per the medical model of a “remediable” expectation of normativity.
 
BetteTheRed said:
And there is absolutely nothing in this world that prevents a "disabled" person from being a "socially disabled" one. Put that in your pretentious little pipe and smoke it.

Life could be worse, on a whole bunch of levels, for a whole bunch of reasons, young-ish white colonial person?
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You cannot be willfully ignorant about my position and still be my friend. Nor can you be for social justice and human rights. It’s not possible. Now magnify that by 100s of thousands who feel the same way.

...Now go work on overcoming ableism.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
The medical establishment has a license to kill people who aren’t dying.
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From a disabled philospher's perspective ...

I will quote in italics Shelley Tremain from the series of interviews that she is conducting with disabled philosophers and posts to BIOPOLITICAL PHILOSOPHY on the third Wednesday of each month.

The series is designed to provide a public venue for discussion with disabled philosophers.

And I quote ...

"Canadian philosophy is a culture of eugenics.

The culture of eugenics in Canadian philosophy mirrors the culture of neoeugenic biopolitics of Canadian society. In large part, the philosophers and bioethicists who shape Canadian philosophy also shape Canadian public policy on disability.

Vote in favour of Bill C-7 is the culmination of this race to re-entrench eugenics in Canadian policy. Just as feminists have long played a role in the eugenic practices of the Canadian government with respect to disabled people, Indigenous people, black people, people of colour, and poor people, Canadian feminist philosophers have played and continue to play a formative role in the eugenic culture and biopolitics of Canadian philosophy."

Source: Discipline and Punish: Canadian Philosophy, Bill C-7, and Scapegoating​

 
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Ritafee said:
From a disabled philospher's perspective ...

I will quote in italics Shelley Tremain from the series of interviews that she is conducting with disabled philosophers and posts to BIOPOLITICAL PHILOSOPHY on the third Wednesday of each month.

The series is designed to provide a public venue for discussion with disabled philosophers.

And I quote ...

"Canadian philosophy is a culture of eugenics.

The culture of eugenics in Canadian philosophy mirrors the culture of neoeugenic biopolitics of Canadian society. In large part, the philosophers and bioethicists who shape Canadian philosophy also shape Canadian public policy on disability.

Vote in favour of Bill C-7 is the culmination of this race to re-entrench eugenics in Canadian policy. Just as feminists have long played a role in the eugenic practices of the Canadian government with respect to disabled people, Indigenous people, black people, people of colour, and poor people, Canadian feminist philosophers have played and continue to play a formative role in the eugenic culture and biopolitics of Canadian philosophy."

Source: Discipline and Punish: Canadian Philosophy, Bill C-7, and Scapegoating​

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She's also a feminist philosopher and post-modernist - even at cursory glance it's apparent - challenging the ideas of other feminist philosophers ...before the assumption that this is "feminism's fault" can take root in your mind.

Can I ask where you found this?
 
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I've been trying to get a few things changed, no luck with the blood product deliveries. I did get hospital policy changes so that Chemguy isn't being grilled every time he goes and picks up my blood products. Now he has similar screening when doing so to everyone else.
For a while staff was insisting he must have an appointment, didn't believe that people should be picking things up from the blood bank and told him he must be in and out in 2 minutes (great if no staff needs blood products, but if they do patient pickups understandably get bumped to the end of the line) when they eventually allowed him in even though they really 'shouldn't be letting him in'.

I was seriously concerned if we had to isolate and needed someone other than him to go in for me!
 
ChemGal said:
I've been trying to get a few things changed, no luck with the blood product deliveries. I did get hospital policy changes so that Chemguy isn't being grilled every time he goes and picks up my blood products. Now he has similar screening when doing so to everyone else.
For a while staff was insisting he must have an appointment, didn't believe that people should be picking things up from the blood bank and told him he must be in and out in 2 minutes (great if no staff needs blood products, but if they do patient pickups understandably get bumped to the end of the line) when they eventually allowed him in even though they really 'shouldn't be letting him in'.

I was seriously concerned if we had to isolate and needed someone other than him to go in for me!
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Wrong thread?
 
Pinga said:
Anyone hear the CBC show today. Jeff Preston, and another fellow whose name I don't recollect were interviewed. Quite good. Was about the nuances. (The other fellow has debilitating pain and would like to be able to access MAID. It was good, and talked about the importance of support / funding for individuals to live.
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Jeff Preston is on our side. I thought he was the from the Dying with Dignity “side“. My apologies. The Dying with Dignity side I consider to be enemies of the disabled.


...the “other side” is not a side - is like a proportionately small group of mainly affluent people, many of whom are ableist themselves (like imagining a future self wishing they could die if they became disabled) - with no race or gender or poverty or social justice lens. Their only position is death options to the weak is good. That’s eugenics.
 
BetteTheRed said:
All I argue is your ownership of "disability".
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For comparison...Do you argue the lgbtq ownership of lgbtq is theirs...or would you like to include gay conversion therapy proponents and people who are gay, lesbian or trans themselves but don’t support lgbtq rights, under the same tent? No, right? They can gtfo of the tent unless they change their minds, because their attitudes harm lgbtq people trying to seek and preserve their human rights which means equality rights.
Same concept.

the disability community has been entirely too hospitable to those who want us to be/ are perfectly ok with us being dead, already, IMO.
 
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ChemGal said:
I've been trying to get a few things changed, no luck with the blood product deliveries. I did get hospital policy changes so that Chemguy isn't being grilled every time he goes and picks up my blood products. Now he has similar screening when doing so to everyone else.
For a while staff was insisting he must have an appointment, didn't believe that people should be picking things up from the blood bank and told him he must be in and out in 2 minutes (great if no staff needs blood products, but if they do patient pickups understandably get bumped to the end of the line) when they eventually allowed him in even though they really 'shouldn't be letting him in'.

I was seriously concerned if we had to isolate and needed someone other than him to go in for me!
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If you don’t stand with disability rights proponents... can you imagine one day in 10 to 15 years when maybe Chemguy becomes disabled and can’t work much, too - and maybe your parents are gone and haven’t left you a huge nest-egg - having to pay out of pocket for the full cost your blood products, and whatever his needs are too because, it wasn’t subsidized for anyone anymore?

MAiD for the disabled is about culling the weak, disadvantaged, and poor. MAiD waits for the day when it preys upon people whose options are limited, like the Grim Reaper, come early. It’s eugenics.
 
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Also, if you are on our side - even if it doesn’t impact you directly - you’ll start noticing this kind of s**t everywhere, and being mad about it and expressing your frustration to people who can do something. If you’re not on our side, you won’t notice or care.

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why don’t they cut a space out of the stairs and build a ramp? Or level a strip of the stairs with concrete? Can’t be that difficult.
 
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Is poverty self-generating given that it is caused by some people? ... and then some people don't because of shortage of something or other of mysterious source!

Thus the soul is intangible in life and dead to it ... generating the conception of the unconscious mind that pops up in episodes of PTSD (as we don't know much about it in soulful poverty)!

This could be a greatly unfavored discussion string for those despising psychotic episodes and other E Jack you latencies ... as a pain we could learn something undesired from it!

Discomfort of thought when found to be Miss NG? Thus Understanding is beneath higher state mentalities ... Jacked up? All found in inky words requiring turning over ... the other's Ide is there ... like an Escher sketch ... for want of warpage!
 
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