In that case kids born in the late 60's might not have gotten it. Lots of kids born in the early 70s still got it even though they weren't required to, I guess. And by the late 70s probably nobody was getting it.
I don't vaccinate my child because it's my right to determine which diseases come back
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paradox3
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Hi revjohn,
In that case I would have been vaccinated in the late 50's. My scar is very tiny and I don't have any memory of that scab.
I don't have a scar. My mom has a list of my shots somewhere tucked away. Most people I know in my age group have scars - whose arms I've noticed that is. So, that's not entirely true because I don't know what everybody's arms look like - but I felt like the odd one out growing up because I didn't have a ring scar on my arm. Not that it bothered me that much. I was somewhere on the cusp.
paradox3
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TANGENT ALERT:
Kimmio, We just posted a minute apart with the same 3 first words. On the original WC cjms & I once posted simultaneously and our posts were almost identical even though they were quite long ones.
Okay, back to the topic.
Some people in my age bracket have very large scars from the vaccination.
Kimmio, We just posted a minute apart with the same 3 first words. On the original WC cjms & I once posted simultaneously and our posts were almost identical even though they were quite long ones.
Okay, back to the topic.
Some people in my age bracket have very large scars from the vaccination.
I've seen some pretty big scars but when I was a kid I remember it being kind of a badge of honour thing for kids to roll sleeves up and compare scars. Ah well. I had scars they didn't have. 
Greywolf336
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My mom was born and raised in Ontario, her birthday being 1960, and she does have the scar on her arm.
The first chicken pox vaccine was not given until 1995 in the United States. It is not known how long a child is immune from chicken pox with this vaccine. Some are still immune after 20 years and some lose their immunity after 5years. There have been large outbreaks at schools that have a 97-100% vaccination rate,which the CDC is looking into.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/113/3/455
Prior to the introduction of the vaccine in 1995 there were 100-150 deaths per year in the United States. 80% of those deaths were adults. In 2003-4 there were eight deaths, six of whom were children.The rate of shingles has increased in adults because adults are now less exposed to infected children. (source wikipedia)
Scarlet fever, which was more rampant than measles in the early century, never had a vaccine developed and the disease declined
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/113/3/455
Prior to the introduction of the vaccine in 1995 there were 100-150 deaths per year in the United States. 80% of those deaths were adults. In 2003-4 there were eight deaths, six of whom were children.The rate of shingles has increased in adults because adults are now less exposed to infected children. (source wikipedia)
Scarlet fever, which was more rampant than measles in the early century, never had a vaccine developed and the disease declined
Neither do I - born in New Brunswick in 1964 and raised in Ontario.
My wife has a scar - from some kind of vaccine - on her shoulder.
Lastpointe
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Small pox.
revjohn
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Waterfall said:
One of the reasons is the conditions required for the disease to originate.
Small pox, for example originated some is thought to have first appeared in human population around 10, 000 BC. It is also thought to be a variation of what was originally a disease that plagued rat populations.
The earliest medical evidence of the disease is thought to be found in India about 1500 BC although examination of the mummified remains of Ramses V indicates that Rameses V had been infected with the disease around 3000 BC. It is difficult to say where small pox originated, the most likely target is Egypt where it spread to India and then China. Increased trade with European countries would have allowed the contagion to be spread into Europe.
Nobody with the disease was in contact with the Americas where climate and population density made the mutations a likelihood.
(That's interesting regarding the origins there Rev John. Thank you for sharing that. Of course - the 10,000 B.C. date is wrong. Were there any diseases that originated in the Americas?)
RitaTG
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Interesting Jae ....... why is the 10,000 B.C. date wrong?
Do you have an article that gives a more definitive date?
Thanks
Rita
revjohn
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Pr. Jae said:
Young Earther nonsense notwithstanding.
Pr. Jae said:
I'm presuming that you mean uniquely to the Americas in much the same way small pox appeared to manifest itself uniquely in Northern Africa.
None that come immediately to mind. There is a rumour that Syphillus originated in the Americas and was brought back to Europe by Christopher Columbus (not him alone but with the help of his crew).
Specific conditions need to be present for the mutations (read evolution) among certain viruses or bacteria which suddenly go from being harmless to humanity to harmful to humanity. Depending on the properties of those viruses or bacteria we have a level of contagion that runs from mild to severe.
In densely populated areas infectious diseases, even when not deadly, spread quickly because transmission of the virus or bacteria from host to host is relatively easy. I cough into my hand depositing live virus or bacteria on my skin and just enough moisture for it to thrive. I shake your hand and the moisture is transferred from my hand to yours. You wipe your eye allowing the virus or bacteria to come into contact with your mucal membranes and shortly you are infected because some of the virus or bacteria my body successfully shunted survived long enough to find another suitable habitat.
9 times out of 10 I didn't feel sick when I coughed. You didn't find my hand to be noticeably wet. You won't know for a day or so that you picked up a viral or bacterial hitch-hiker and by then you may have infected your family.
Heat is a property that many of the nasty little critters which plague us absolutely adore. Which is why most originate in warmer climes. Of course the almost perfect temperature and environment for many of these nasty little critters is exactly the kind of environment our bodies provide.
(Rita - I will look for an article for you. The Bible suggests the age of the Earth as being approximately 6,000 years old. Things kicked off with a bang roughly 4,000 B.C.)
RitaTG
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Hmmmm ..... it would seem your viewpoint needs updating...
Galileo had a similar problem with the religious viewpoint of his day ..... according to scripture.
500 years later ... an apology ......
Please .... at one time the earth was even deemed flat and the "ends of the earth" in scripture made a particular sense.