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They could also run the carts on a conveyor belt thought some sort of car wash/ modified dishwasher. But that would require a lot of water and energy. Or maybe multidirectional disinfectant mist sprayer? A box that has several spray jets?
 
Ugh, a bit off topic but there's a relationship. There's been a push lately with some into farming to allow for raw milk sales. This is not the time to be pushing for something than can contribute to food poisoning! The healthcare system is struggling.
How high is the incidence of food poisoning from raw milk?
 
How high is the incidence of food poisoning from raw milk?
I'm not sure, the CDC has information on it in general. The closest stat to your answer I got quickly - 150x more risker than pasteurized milk. Seems like a risk that's easily avoidable.

I think in general it's a bad idea, but if adults want it and it's clearly labelled there are things I have bigger concerns with. Young kids tend to get sick though so I don't think they should ever be given commercial raw milk.
During a pandemic - put this one off IMO.
 
Oh, but if you've never had yogurt made with raw milk, you haven't really 'done' yogurt.

But it's probably a bad idea to ease up restrictions on it during a pandemic.

At our store, every time the carts get moved from the cart corral into the 'main' cart section, which can be many times a day, they are washed with a portable power washer containing disinfectant. At the front door, there is a station with hand sanitizer, disinfectant wipes, and usually a person who checks for masks, offers masks if the customer has forgotten, and offers to wipe down the cart handle while the customer sanitizes hands. Means the carts are "pretty clean". We no longer offer the plastic (impossible to get very clean, never mind pretty clean) baskets to customers.
 
At our store, every time the carts get moved from the cart corral into the 'main' cart section, which can be many times a day, they are washed with a portable power washer containing disinfectant.
My No Frills closed the cart corrals (they only have two anyhow). You just return your cart to the guy who disinfects them. He does his thing, then puts them back into the corral at the door where you pick them up from. And they're not using the coin locks at the moment as well so you don't have to handle the chain thing.
 
This is interesting. New research suggests that mouthwash that prevents gum disease with certain ingredients is able to kill the COVID 19 virus in your mouth and throat.

 
And they're not using the coin locks at the moment as well so you don't have to handle the chain thing.

Huh. Must have had better luck than our store. There were carts all over the lot, cars getting accidents with stray carts, carts left all over the store. For a quarter. People in Barrie are crazy.
 
I just realized most stores I've shopped in here, haven't had the coin and chain thing for awhile - since before covid. Most parking lots have a few drop off spots. But people do sometimes leave their carts in the middle of walkways/ sidewalks in and around the lot, so I often have to stop and push them out of the way as i scoot by. I'm heavier than a cart, me and my scooter. Sometimes I'm tempted to plow them out of the way - but I don't do it.
 
Huh. Must have had better luck than our store. There were carts all over the lot, cars getting accidents with stray carts, carts left all over the store. For a quarter. People in Barrie are crazy.
Our Chinese grocery still uses them and theirs are a loon. They don't have many carts though so maybe theft is a concern.
 
This is interesting. New research suggests that mouthwash that prevents gum disease with certain ingredients is able to kill the COVID 19 virus in your mouth and throat.

I can see Costco running out of mouthwash.
We had a covid cluster in an area close to one Costco last week and when we went to the other one in a different area of Halifax on Thursday night, usually a less busy time, the parking lot was packed and the toilet paper sold out.
 
I can see Costco running out of mouthwash.
We had a covid cluster in an area close to one Costco last week and when we went to the other one in a different area of Halifax on Thursday night, usually a less busy time, the parking lot was packed and the toilet paper sold out.
I can see it too.....just hope they don't drink it instead of gargling with it. ;)
 
Yes, *sigh*, odd stuff becomes hard to get, randomly. Last week, had a customer complaining about the lack of chili powder in several stores, including ours.
 
As people are told to social distance and wear masks and orange levels are in some places.....why is the following happening at our borders? Since March, more than 5 million have been allowed to skip quarantine.


The following tells us who is exempt from quarantine....basically any essential workers like truck drivers, migrant workers, etc......
They would have to be showing symptoms of COVID 19 to go into quarantine, but we've known for awhile that symptoms are not always present.

 
Because cross-border traffic in goods and services must go on, unless we ALL plan on shopping local for everything. Hello to a winter where your vegetable options are...root vegetables.
Yes, but is there not another way to deal with making sure those essential workers are still under the same rules as those who live in the countries they're entering? Because this opens a whole door to cross border infections and is possibly negating any efforts that we put in place in our country, especially when one of the countries is the United States with a high percentage of cases.
Can the driver not stay in the truck while others unpack the truck and he then proceeds back to the border for accommodation if they require sleep? Stuff like that....or even a fast track covid test as they are doing in other countries airports?
I don't know all the ins and outs, but surely this is inadequate the way it is.
 
Because cross-border traffic in goods and services must go on, unless we ALL plan on shopping local for everything. Hello to a winter where your vegetable options are...root vegetables.
For the long term, down the road we should be watching Norway....next to the USA it is the second largest food exporter in the world. Yes a small, cold country has used innovation to feed the world. This includes tomatoes, lettuce and even bananas!
 
a fast track covid test
This is the real solution and I continue to be baffled as to what happened to the 20.5 million we were supposedly buying from Abbott. Not that this is enough, but this test has been approved by Health Canada so the provinces could easily be buying them, too, to use in LTC and similar settings where frequent testing is required.

 
When are we getting a vaccine? We need a vaccine, an evolving one like the flu vaccine. We don't need to be in a permanent state of Covid. I know we need to now and for awhile longer but I hope people don't just succumb to this as the permanent state of things and not put pressure on to find a vaccine and roll some of these temporary changes back. It scares me a little that people are talking about how we can adapt permanently to this. I think that's wrong-headed and hopeless. In the meantime, stay safe. But remember government works for us, not the other way around. Also take serious note that the very rich are getting richer, and the poor even poorer, as long as this continues. So there are those in high places who are not in a hurry to change that! And I'm not being conspiratorial. It's true. I still think we need to listen to the epidemiologists but we also have to keep a serious eye on people with power over our rights and freedoms, and lives.
 
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When are we getting a vaccine? We need a vaccine, an evolving one like the flu vaccine. We don't need to be in a permanent state of Covid. I know we need to now and for awhile longer but I hope people don't just succumb to this as the permanent state of things and not put pressure on to find a vaccine and roll some of these temporary changes back. It scares me a little that people are talking about how we can adapt permanently to this. I think that's wrong-headed and hopeless. In the meantime, stay safe. But remember government works for us, not the other way around. Also take serious note that the very rich are getting richer, and the poor even poorer, as long as this continues. So there are those in high places who are not in a hurry to change that! And I'm not being conspiratorial. It's true. I still think we need to listen to the epidemiologists but we also have to keep a serious eye on people with power over our rights and freedoms, and lives.
There are multiple ones in trials. Looking very much like multiple vaccines will be in use in 2021.
 
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