Canadian election this fall?

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Well, what do you think of the thread's opening question?

  • We will and we should

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • We will and we should not

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • We won't but we should

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • We won't and we should not

    Votes: 3 33.3%

  • Not sure

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Something else (explain in a post)

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .
Ritafee said:
O'Toole is apparently of the view that Sloan has not yet said enough to justify expulsion.
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No. O'Toole is of the view that Sloan:s supporters helped him won by making him their second or third choice over Mackay and doesn't want to risk losing that wing of the party to the PPC. Bernier has already called on Sloan to "come on over". At least that is how I would read it.
 
Mendalla said:
No. O'Toole is of the view that Sloan:s supporters helped him won by making him their second or third choice over Mackay and doesn't want to risk losing that wing of the party to the PPC. Bernier has already called on Sloan to "come on over". At least that is how I would read it.
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God. I wish they would go on over. Then we could keep track of where they are (in the political spectrum's numbers, not literally - though, how many of them reside in each province would be good to know).
 
O'Toole:

"What an honour. Thank you so much.

 Thank you to my friends - Leslyn Lewis, Derek Sloan, and of course to the Honourable Peter MacKay.

Thank you for stepping up for our country. Congratulations for the campaigns you have run, for the ideas you have put forward, and for the Canadians you have recruited to our cause."


Our cause?
 
Yeah, that definitely raises an eyebrow. Sounds like his cause is fairly well aligned with a certain person's here who I'm not allowed to mention.
 
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"Scheer later said he hoped the new leader would spread a “message of hope.” He did not specify what the party is hoping for, but it’s probably a time machine set for somewhere around 1952."

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"Liberals and Conservatives will both be scrambling to define the new leader in the public mind. But Dr. Steve believes that being a blank slate may not be a bad thing for a Conservative leader these days. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is, for good or ill, an international cover boy. How voters feel about him and his government is more likely to define the next election than anything coming from a talking potato."
 
"Talking potato" lol. I lived through the '50's. It was dystopian for women and unprotected children. Beatings and rape ignored or sanctioned, back room abortions, no handy birth control, (you had to be legally married to get contraceptives). etc. Hopefully Canadians are too sensible to take it too far. Most of them haven't a clue what happens in their "cause", because most didn't live through it.
 
Omg, omg, omg...what have you done cons? O'Tool's wife recently referred to him as "Dad" in a tweet. Maybe they really are trying to get back to 1952. Maybe progressive scientists should really try to build a time machine and send them back there, where they'd be much happier.
 
Okay. I overreacted. I opened the tweet and it was a photo of his kids and their dog watching Erin on TV. "Watching Dad's first press conference as party leader" makes sense. Though "kids watching their dad's first press conference" makes more sense"
 
Mendalla said:
And I am a Green voter, though I have to see where they go now that May has retired. People have tended to forget that the CPC is not the only party changing leader.
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I am wondering if Chrystia Freeland wants to lead the Libs. That would be awesome, but not likely.
 
ninjafaery said:
I am wondering if Chrystia Freeland wants to lead the Libs. That would be awesome, but not likely.
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My suspicion is that has probably been her long game for a while. Becoming the first woman to hold the finance portfolio really helps advance that, though she's already a senior cabinet minister even absent that. If she can stickhandle the fiscal side of the Liberal recovery plan, she should be a shoo-in, though I'm sure some middle-aged white men will run as well.
 
There's something awkward about her. She's smart, experienced...there's still something awkward. Maybe it's because it seems like she's been wearing the same red dress that doesn't fit very well, in every photo for almost 6 years. Why?
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
There's something awkward about her. She's smart, experienced...there's still something awkward. Maybe it's because it seems like she's been wearing the same red dress that doesn't fit very well, in every photo for almost 6 years. Why?
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You know what? I don't care if she wears a cloth sack. I just want someone competent running the country and she seems like a possibility there. Unfortunately, people will say things like this about female politicians and it actually becomes an issue with them where it does not with men.
 
Mendalla said:
You know what? I don't care if she wears a cloth sack. I just want someone competent running the country and she seems like a possibility there. Unfortunately, people will say things like this about female politicians and it actually becomes an issue with them where it does not with men.
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I'm open to critiquing men's aesthetic choices equally. Trump's been wearing that stupid tie for a decade. Not to mention his MAGA hat. And that hair!

Harper's sweater vests. And hair inspired by Newt Gingrich. That wasn't a good look.

Trudeau's funny socks and brown shoes are getting old too. They all need to change it up a bit.

I thought Chrystia would be a great cabinet minister at first...but I'm not sure how well liked she is on the world stage.

And maybe a few more colours and types of outfits wouldn't be a terrible idea. I know red is supposed to be a power colour (it is, deliberately, look it up - it's not an accident when politicians wear it. It's not just a "Canadian" colour) but if it's all the time it loses that quality. It looks like she's trying too hard to pull of an image and it isn't working for me.
 
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If we can't criticize politicians attire choices and the impressions they leave - we shouldn't have job interview coaches who teach people how to dress for interviews to impress employers. It's standard practice, though. Clothing choices shouldn't matter for any job. If you really want to talk about equality start with the lack of opportunity people trying to gain entry level access to jobs have because they aren't well dressed, and are judged within the first 30 seconds.
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
If we can't criticize politicians attire choices and the impressions they leave - we shouldn't have job interview coaches who teach people how to dress for interviews to impress employers. It's standard practice, though. Clothing choices shouldn't matter for any job. If you really want to talk about equality start with the lack of opportunity people trying to gain entry level access to jobs have because they aren't well dressed, and are judged within the first 30 seconds.
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It is not criticizing clothing in and of itself that is the issue. It is that fact that in politics and other public spheres, it is almost always women who have their clothing choices questioned. If Freeland's attire is fair game for comment, the same should be true of Trudeau and O'Toole. The fact is, I rarely hear comments on what guys in public life are wearing and more and more women are seeing that and questioning why the media and others have that focus.
 
Mendalla said:
It is not criticizing clothing in and of itself that is the issue. It is that fact that in politics and other public spheres, it is almost always women who have their clothing choices questioned. If Freeland's attire is fair game for comment, the same should be true of Trudeau and O'Toole. The fact is, I rarely hear comments on what guys in public life are wearing and more and more women are seeing that and questioning why the media and others have that focus.
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I agree. Beyond jabs at Trudeau's socks, it's usually only women whose clothing is critiqued. :mad: Of course, if it isn't her clothing, it would be something about her behaviour that has nothing to do with her skills. Freeland is an intelligent, strong, skilled woman. That can be a threat to the order of things. Nevermind that she can hold her own against the US president during negotiations or use diplomatic skills to get along with politicians like Ford. But oh, her dress is ugly. This is 2020, we can do better.
 
Mendalla said:
It is not criticizing clothing in and of itself that is the issue. It is that fact that in politics and other public spheres, it is almost always women who have their clothing choices questioned. If Freeland's attire is fair game for comment, the same should be true of Trudeau and O'Toole. The fact is, I rarely hear comments on what guys in public life are wearing and more and more women are seeing that and questioning why the media and others have that focus.
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O'Toole is a potato in a suit. MacKay looks better in jeans.

I don't know Mendalla...when people are in the public eye we notice if they always look the same or if they change their look. Right or wrong or neutral, almost everyone does it.

I didn't comment on her attractiveness, only that her red dress has had quite a career itself.

And again...we are taught from our first job interview prep that clothing choices and first impressions matter. If that's nonsense let's change interview dress expectations and workplace dress codes. They're equally stupid.
 
Northwind said:
I agree. Beyond jabs at Trudeau's socks, it's usually only women whose clothing is critiqued. :mad: Of course, if it isn't her clothing, it would be something about her behaviour that has nothing to do with her skills. Freeland is an intelligent, strong, skilled woman. That can be a threat to the order of things. Nevermind that she can hold her own against the US president during negotiations or use diplomatic skills to get along with politicians like Ford. But oh, her dress is ugly. This is 2020, we can do better.
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She kissed up to Trudeau and didn't stand by her fellow female cabinet minister and Attorney General Jody Wilson Reybould. Or Jane Philpott. That's really why I don't like her. I don't like her because she worships her boss a bit too much. After that, her wearing red - power colour, liberal party colour - just bugged me even more. And I didn't say her dress was ugly. It's just red. And she wears it a lot. It's practically a uniform.
 
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