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Ritafee said:
None of the charges have been proven in court. The RCMP has yet to provide details about a motive.

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There is one, they said. They haven't told us why yet. They told us what he was arrested for. Of the 22 charges, that's a lot, I imagine he's at least guilty of a few. We don't know. But it is pretty freaking strange that he did that - coming all the way from rural Manitoba, during covid restrictions, and breaking into a locked gate, with his car, not far from the PMs house. And he was so eager to get in, he left his damaged car and went on foot - It definitely warrants concern and a response by the police. I don't understand your logic Rita. Force was not used on him in this incident. It was obviously suspicious. I doubt he's completely innocent. Maybe - as you say, he hasn't been to trial yet - but I doubt it.
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
JP hits a lot of these markers. More than half of them:

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And these are just summaries. If you read the whole essay, which can also be found online, some of the common tactics are described in greater detail. Creating an us and them religious fervour around a political agenda using the bible is one of them.
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Also not funny. Your discernment is way off, way often. I've recognized it ever since you followed Alex Jones a few years ago. Probably before that, but that affirmed it. Anybody who thought that guy had salient points to make has a discernment problem. At least they did. I hope most of them figured it out. But you keep following these charismatic fringe right movement's leaders. JP is educated, and that had you so enamoured that you'll take his word for almost anything. He's been so f***ing manipulative. Please look more carefully at your own room. You're allowing bits of really toxic garbage in, and laughing at the broom.
 
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Mrs.Anteater said:
My conspiracy theory, looking at the craziness going on in the world, these are clear signs that Lord Voldemort is back.
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Rowling described Voldemort as a self-hating bully: "Well I think it is often the case that the biggest bullies take what they know to be their own defects, as they see it, and they put them right on someone else and then they try and destroy the other and that's what Voldemort does."[9] In the same year, Rowling became more precise about Voldemort. She began to link him to real-life tyrants, describing him as "a raging psychopath, devoid of the normal human responses to other people's suffering".[10] In 2004, though, Rowling said that she did not base Voldemort on any real person.[11] In 2006, Rowling told an interviewer that Voldemort at his core has a human fear: the fear of death. She said: "Voldemort's fear is death, ignominious death. I mean, he regards death itself as ignominious. He thinks that it's a shameful human weakness, as you know. His worst fear is death."[12]
My conspiracy theory ...
Ritafee said:
The fear of death is the beginning of slavery.
Robert Anton Wilson
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I don't understand your logic Rita.
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My logic says that ... making this about him going off the deep end because he is a dangerous conspiracy theorist is rather far fetched at this point.
 
Ritafee said:
Rowling described Voldemort as a self-hating bully: "Well I think it is often the case that the biggest bullies take what they know to be their own defects, as they see it, and they put them right on someone else and then they try and destroy the other and that's what Voldemort does."[9] In the same year, Rowling became more precise about Voldemort. She began to link him to real-life tyrants, describing him as "a raging psychopath, devoid of the normal human responses to other people's suffering".[10] In 2004, though, Rowling said that she did not base Voldemort on any real person.[11] In 2006, Rowling told an interviewer that Voldemort at his core has a human fear: the fear of death. She said: "Voldemort's fear is death, ignominious death. I mean, he regards death itself as ignominious. He thinks that it's a shameful human weakness, as you know. His worst fear is death."[12]
My conspiracy theory ...


My logic says that ... making this about him going off the deep end because he is a dangerous conspiracy theorist is rather far fetched at this point.
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I don't think so.
 
Ritafee said:
It certainly is not funny that a man for whatever reason feels compelled to do whatever it is that this man was doing. To link it to 'conspiracy theory around Bill Gates ... that is laughable.
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I don't think it's laughable that he's taking libertarian fringe ideas like that seriously ,and seems to have a thing for guns - and he just decided to take a jont across provinces, to the PMs house. Arresting him likely prevented something worse - which is what didn't happen in Nova Scotia. It's good he was apprehended - and 22 charges is an awful lot to defend in court, sooo...there's probably something to them. It was not a simple misunderstanding, or arrest for no reason. That would be far fetched.
 
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Kimmio, you should maybe take that statement to the Nova Scotia thread.

I don't see these cases related at all. The first, the NS one, is clearly a psychopath, whose "wife-type" has probably kept him on some kind of a moral leash for a few years, who clearly had not functioning family relationships, who should have been stopped earlier, but hadn't done enough of the right bad things to show up on a radar seriously.

This second one seems to be some kind of very political statement, which the accused didn't get to make, and which we have to assume will come up in court.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Kimmio, you should maybe take that statement to the Nova Scotia thread.

I don't see these cases related at all. The first, the NS one, is clearly a psychopath, whose "wife-type" has probably kept him on some kind of a moral leash for a few years, who clearly had not functioning family relationships, who should have been stopped earlier, but hadn't done enough of the right bad things to show up on a radar seriously.

This second one seems to be some kind of very political statement, which the accused didn't get to make, and which we have to assume will come up in court.
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I don't think so. I am talking about preventing something worse, regardless of type of motive. There was a motive. We don't know what it was, for sure, in either case. Guys enamoured with guns and military and/ or police stuff - all part of toxic masculinity - is a common theme.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
It's true that there are cops and criminals and sometimes cops act like criminals. This time, they did what they had to do and nobody was harmed.
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Right ... but why is this story in the Conspiracy Theory thread .... because the CBC reporter that Mendalla quoted wanted it linked to Conspiracy theory madness and Mendalla fell for it ...
Mendalla said:
I hope this does not pan out the way it sounds, but that gunman arrested at Rideau Hall apparently cited a conspiracy trope on his business' FB page only an hour before the event happened. This is where conspiracy theories stop being innocent madness and move into the realm of a serious risk to safety. People who take this stuff seriously are not necessarily unwilling to take dramatic action on it. As I said, I hope that's not what happened here, but it does point up the risks.


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The problem with "prevention" is that it can easily lead to "over-policing". People, and police officers, make assumptions about people, or they don't, based on what information they might have. Problem is that little bits of information are not comprehensive.

This wasn't "prevention", anyway. Guy had broken into private property, clearly marked.
 
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BetteTheRed said:
The problem with "prevention" is that it can easily lead to "over-policing". People, and police officers, make assumptions about people, or they don't, based on what information they might have. Problem is that little bits of information are not comprehensive.

This wasn't "prevention", anyway. Guy had broken into private property, clearly marked.
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I mean prevention of what he might've done once inside the grounds. Like has been said, he crashed into the gate with his car then went into the closed area. He was up to something. If I were security or a witness I would've called the cops too. It would be negligent not to.

None of the charges are for breaking and entering, though.
 
Northwind said:
You want people to take you seriously
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I don't take myself too seriously ... I am that I am.

This is what I take seriously ...

It's becoming more clear that the ones who support government mandates - aka the threat of force or violence - will, for the most part, be the same ones cheering on vaccine mandates.

Whether its mask mandates or vaccines it is a bad idea to allow government more say in our bodily autonomy.

There will be some who recognize what they have condoned and the precedent being established, but it might be too late to meaningfully oppose these mandates by then.

How are government mandates the same as the threat of force or violence?

For one, if you violate most of these 'masked' mandates you will be fined and in some cases arrested.

Men or women in special suits with shiny badges and guns will come to your house to fine you or take you away to a cage.

Even if all they do is fine you that's still using force against you by taking money out of your pocket which you earned with your time.

Lets imagine you push it and you don't pay the fine ... or imagine you are not even able to afford paying the fine.

Eventually, there might be a warrant for your arrest and those badges and special suits and guns will come to lock you in a cage.

Extorting people, threatening them, kidnapping them, and forcibly holding them against their will is wrong whether an individual does it or an agent of the government, the cops, or the 'medical' military.

So when there is a mandate announced in the near future that says you cant go anywhere without proof of immunity ...

I can already hear people not unlike yourself say:

"Well if you would just wear a mask!", or
"Its just a shot, stop being selfish and think of other people!", or
"If you just stop resisting things will go back to normal!"

@Northwind ...

Do you seriously want to allow these mandates to be used to push further and further until all individual liberty, bodily autonomy, and self ownership are erased?
 
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