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After days of feeling highly anxious over the trouble in the US, I found two more articles discussing how some people respond to the virus. These mark the 2nd and 3rd times I’ve of people who cannot shake the illness, although they are not mortally ill.

Four people discuss it here,

'It feels endless': four women struggling to recover from Covid-19

And another man weighs in here,

'Weird as hell’: the Covid-19 patients who have symptoms for months

Covid is something we really want to avoid. It’s not like flu. Scary.

Glad that no one commenting here has caught it.
 
This is not likely to interest many, but it shows one more way Covid is harming the economy. Less CO2 is about the only upside: I quote the start, I think it is behind a paywall (I restarted some subscriptions in order to have more stuff to pour over.)

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It has survived norovirus, Sars and Mers, as well as regular outbreaks of gastroenteritis and legionnaires’ disease. But coronavirus has dealt the cruise ship industry what looks like a crippling blow.

The 338 ships that make up the industry’s fleet are docked. Carnival, the world’s largest cruise company, is haemorrhaging $1bn a month to maintain its fleet. Governments have issued “no sail” edicts and the majority of the 32m passengers that the Cruise Lines International Association projected would sail this year are stuck at home.

The halt on operations is due to last until at least August with ghostly ships marooned in harbours in what is known as “warm lay-up”, where systems are kept running to make sure that none seize up...

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What do we really know about immune system disruptians as they are sources from small things ... genes and djinns? Spooked ...
 
There are no cases on Vancouver Island, EO. For weeks there was only one active case, in hospital...and now nobody’s in hospital, nobody has died in a couple of months. All cases recovered. No new cases on the Island for weeks. There may be some undetected cases - it’s possible - but nobody’s getting sick enough to go to the hospital...no cases of other issues showing up in hospital turning out to be covid. If there was a serious problem here it would be showing up. I hope you’re leaving your house!

That said, as things open up and people are doing more, we have to be mindful that it does still exist and can travel here.
 
We were at Emerg yesterday. Hubby turned his ankle and needed it looked at. We ended up calling our doctor's office to speak to the doctor of the day because it was obvious we were in the wrong place. Our logic had been that he'd need an xray so might as well go to the hospital. While we were there, a woman came, assisted by a neighbour as far as we could tell. She passed out on her face in the entrance and had a terrible cough. My first impression was overdose. They got her on a stretcher and in to see the doctor. After we left I wondered if she was sick with covid. I sure hope not. I suppose we'll hear soon enough if it was.

I guess my point is that we are in an awesome place on the island. I do believe the stats that there aren't any cases. That being said, we're still being cautious.
 
Listening to a patient info session right now. We're being told to let the healthy people be the canaries. No sitting in restaurants, being in areas with others, etc. for us is the recommendation. Even something like camping is being said to be avoided if it's an area where many camp.
 
We have been out to dinner twice. I felt more comfortable at the first restaurant. It was less busy and the servers wore face shields. The second place was probably fine, especially here on the island.

I don't understand the concern about camping. It's an outdoor activity where it's easy to keep safe distances.
 
Northwind said:
We have been out to dinner twice. I felt more comfortable at the first restaurant. It was less busy and the servers wore face shields. The second place was probably fine, especially here on the island.

I don't understand the concern about camping. It's an outdoor activity where it's easy to keep safe distances.
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Maybe the public washrooms, showers, common swimming areas and gatherings around campfires?
 
Northwind said:
We were at Emerg yesterday. Hubby turned his ankle and needed it looked at. We ended up calling our doctor's office to speak to the doctor of the day because it was obvious we were in the wrong place. Our logic had been that he'd need an xray so might as well go to the hospital. While we were there, a woman came, assisted by a neighbour as far as we could tell. She passed out on her face in the entrance and had a terrible cough. My first impression was overdose. They got her on a stretcher and in to see the doctor. After we left I wondered if she was sick with covid. I sure hope not. I suppose we'll hear soon enough if it was.

I guess my point is that we are in an awesome place on the island. I do believe the stats that there aren't any cases. That being said, we're still being cautious.
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Ooo - ouch. And how's the ankle?
 
Northwind said:
We have been out to dinner twice. I felt more comfortable at the first restaurant. It was less busy and the servers wore face shields. The second place was probably fine, especially here on the island.

I don't understand the concern about camping. It's an outdoor activity where it's easy to keep safe distances.
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It's about avoiding any crowded area in general and like Waterfall said, common touch points. It is hard as it is for a diverse group of patients too, some are at a much higher risk of just contracting anything in general, so it's not just the risk of the serious complications.
 
Northwind said:
We were at Emerg yesterday. Hubby turned his ankle and needed it looked at. We ended up calling our doctor's office to speak to the doctor of the day because it was obvious we were in the wrong place. Our logic had been that he'd need an xray so might as well go to the hospital. While we were there, a woman came, assisted by a neighbour as far as we could tell. She passed out on her face in the entrance and had a terrible cough. My first impression was overdose. They got her on a stretcher and in to see the doctor. After we left I wondered if she was sick with covid. I sure hope not. I suppose we'll hear soon enough if it was.

I guess my point is that we are in an awesome place on the island. I do believe the stats that there aren't any cases. That being said, we're still being cautious.
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Northwind said:
This is a long article that has excellent information

Should we aim for herd immunity like Sweden
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Thanks for link.
 
Waterfall said:
Maybe the public washrooms, showers, common swimming areas and gatherings around campfires?
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The park we were in closed the common areas. Only self-contained units could come in. Washrooms were open June 1 as per BC guidelines. They have been clean. The cleaning was stepped up and done more frequently.
 
Waterfall said:
I almost wish BCs health minister was in charge instead of Tam.
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She is more effective in a province. In the end Tam can't do much because so much of health care, including public health, falls under provincial jurisdiction. There's a few areas like airlines, shipping, airports, national parks, and the border where the Feds are in control but after that, the provinces run the show and Tam can only support them and make recommendations. Bonnie Henry (and counterparts like David Williams in Ontario) is right where she needs to be to have maximal impact IMHO.
 
Somebody has to have it, in order to catch it, even in a large group. And for all the talk of potentially many undetected asymptomatic or slightly symptomatic carriers spreading it to a bunch of vulnerable people - that has not happened here either. The needle has barely moved in weeks. And if anything...I would think, with the demographics and travel habits here on the Island - we would've been slammed by COVID. But we weren't. It must be more than sheer luck. I wonder if Dr. Henry has already, or can now, explain it.
 
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ChemGal said:
It's about avoiding any crowded area in general and like Waterfall said, common touch points
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Campgrounds do not have to be crowded. Plus, someone in their own self-contained unit does not need to use public showers or other facilities. "Camping" can be done quite safely. It should not be a blanket statement.
 
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