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I'm so thankful to be here and pray for those in areas that have been hit harder.
It’s the “island effect”. New Zealand has nearly eradicated the virus. Unfortunately I learn from a resident that they plan to take tourists again (for the economy). The virus will come right back, unless they insist on quarantine and testing.

Australia is doing better than Canada. It’s just a big, rather sparsely populated island.
 
Here’s a couple of Youtube channels I follow. The first one isn’t an MD, he was a nurse and later got a PhD and was teaching nursing.


This doctor is definitely aiming for a health worker following. But my long ago studies in chemistry enables me to get the gist of things. He’s discussing a recent discovery about Covid-19. It can cause strokes if the virus invades cells lining the arteries.

 
There's imperfect/ imprecise. Then there's flat out skewed using bad methodology a
@Ritafee Your province is reopening plenty more than here. I just read clothing stores and local parks and playgrounds here were closed voluntarily...they didn’t have to. But now that they have been, Bonnie Henry wants to make sure everyone’s reopening plans are sound. I trust her (though I don’t trust anyone 100%, I trust her mostly). I’m not complaining...yet. If she goes too slow, I might. The biggest worry is opening up tourism, especially from the US...the lower mainland and here normally get a ton of tourists. We don’t want them back quite yet. One of the smartest things we did here was to halt the cruise ships and Washington State ferries early on. To keep them going would’ve been a horrific mistake. The harbour and downtown are not that big. Many of the tourist hot-spots are concentrated down there - downtown itself is normally where the cruise ship passengers roam around while they dock briefly (I’ve said before it’s not that unusual, most years, to run into the same tour group more than once in a day, too) - staffed by locals from all over town, and that would’ve spread covid like wildfire here. And I’m glad there are travel restrictions, still.
Tourism is pretty much what spread this virus around the world.
 
I've seen the news and heard accounts from my favourite podcasters who live there. I've never been to NY.
I’ve got an online friend in NYC. It’s the epicentre in the US. She’s a bit younger than me but closing in on 65. High risk.

But she goes out most days for walks. Otherwise she holes in her apartment like me.

A recent large antibody test in NY State shows that about 20% of Manhattan residents have been exposed. That’s. very high.
 
Omg! One more reason to go back to being vegetarian. I don’t want to support companies like this no matter where they are...but sweatshops like this should not exist in Canada. (Plus, it looks disgusting in there.)

A quote from the company president:

“If we need to feel the need to apologize, absolutely, we will apologize. We're a very humble organization, we feel bad about what happened but at the same time we're very confident in how we run our businesses, how we run our processes.”


:mad:Who even says stuff like that (besides Trump and terrible people)? “ If we need to feel the need to apologize”...wtf? Not only is it heartless, it doesn’t even make sense.
It’s hitting plants in Canada and the US. My project for today is to try figure why Covid is so extensive in these places. I found an article (at the reliable Financial Times) with photos. I don’t eat meat often, fortunately.
https://www.ft.com/content/f6e2b4ad-4a62-4c6f-8348-38704e3e81f6?desktop=true&segmentId=d8d3e364-5197-20eb-17cf-2437841d178a
 
It’s hitting plants in Canada and the US. My project for today is to try figure why Covid is so extensive in these places. I found an article (at the reliable Financial Times) with photos. I don’t eat meat often, fortunately.
https://www.ft.com/content/f6e2b4ad-4a62-4c6f-8348-38704e3e81f6?desktop=true&segmentId=d8d3e364-5197-20eb-17cf-2437841d178a
Without reading it, I would guess it's because people are working and living in close quarters with people who travelled, or whose families and housemates travelled or know someone who did and came into contact with them....who can't quarantine properly due to their socioeconomic circumstances. Through word of mouth, people who know each other get jobs in the same industry... Viruses always spread in closed conditions packed with people. And, at Cargill it sounds like the employer didn't employ good safety measures and equipment to protect the staff.
 
I find this article misleading. It looks like it’s saying there are 74 cases in hospital in the Island region. There are only 2. One person died between yesterday and today...yesterday, there were 3 hospitalized here, all in ICU (sadly, one of those 3 died). When the article stresses the provincial total numbers, then closes with a paragraph about where the Island Health region is, but mentions really small towns that people likely don’t readily know the physical location of - if not read really carefully (and even if read normally), it misleads to the conclusion that the numbers are on the Island, not in all of BC, imo.

 
Without reading it, I would guess it's because people are working and living in close quarters with people who travelled, or whose families and housemates travelled or know someone who did and came into contact with them....who can't quarantine properly due to their socioeconomic circumstances. Through word of mouth, people who know each other get jobs in the same industry... Viruses always spread in closed conditions packed with people. And, at Cargill it sounds like the employer didn't employ good safety measures and equipment to protect the staff.
That is pretty much what the articles are saying. They’ll have do something now.
 
I find this article misleading. It looks like it’s saying there are 74 cases in hospital in the Island region. There are only 2. One person died between yesterday and today...yesterday, there were 3 hospitalized here, all in ICU (sadly, one of those 3 died). When the article stresses the provincial total numbers, then closes with a paragraph about where the Island Health region is, but mentions really small towns that people likely don’t readily know the physical location of - if not read really carefully (and even if read normally), it misleads to the conclusion that the numbers are on the Island, not in all of BC, imo.

There’s really not much on the Island...yet.
 
There’s really not much on the Island...yet.
There may not be much. It can’t come from somewhere where no one has it. It has to be brought to people who don’t have it by people who do. With only 12 active cases in home recovery out of a 794K population, and only essential travel on the ferry allowed, that risk is low. I am worried about opening tourism more broadly. That’s the health officials’ last priority, I think. I hope it is.
 
Now that meat packing factory workers are coming down with COVID and we just assume it's because they lack social distancing and PPE's, do we actually know for sure?......is anyone testing the Cattle for COVID?
Wouldn't that be worth checking too?
 
Unfortunately I learn from a resident that they plan to take tourists again (for the economy). The virus will come right back, unless they insist on quarantine and testing.

Not quite.


So there's an agreement to open travel between New Zealand and Australia but only when certain conditions are met. And that's because the Aussies are next door and also getting fairly good at containing covid. I doubt they'll admitting Americans or Canadians any time soon.
 
There was an info session for those with primary immunodeficiencies done by 2 of the doctors in Canada who treat them (one being my hematologist). For groceries and deliveries it was recommended that the patients don't actually handle them and to have someone else in the household wipe/spray them all down. Interesting to note, this is being done with biobank samples as well.
 
Children are getting sick from an illness experts think may be related to COVID 19:



And in Quebec, Montreal's first Covid outbreak in a daycare:

 
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