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Our community has a satire page/group on FB. That page has organized a volunteer network that will help people who are totally isolated and unable to leave their homes. It generated a list of over 200 people who have signed up to help.

The park I'm in has had many people offer to help others through the community FB group.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Alright already. f***.
I have decided to stay home for two weeks. I've done it before for not this reason. It was after my separation. It was probably 3 weeks, maybe a month, with the exception of a few half hour trips to the store, but hardly any - then somebody peeled me off the floor (not literally but almost - I was sleeping in a half deflated air bed "our" furniture was in storage and I am still paying for it because I want a place for it someday - which had been replaced twice and I ditched it for the floor because I had no money. f***ed up my back.) Then a friend rescued me and let me stay with her for a couple of weeks - I was effectively homeless - and I came here. It was a rough time. Nobody here really gave much of a s**t so I put on my brave face and you all just thought I was angry with "my hot button issues". That's not to say I wasn't but when I am in survival mode it's just how I need to be. Pissed off. Being pissed off about stuff saved my life, If you have never been in survival mode like that you wouldn't know.Nevermind. I lost my whole life once already - everything. But, frankly, most people are annoying if one is around them too much anyway, so - from that perspective, I can do it. I'll look after myself. Everyone else is. It'll be rough and may turn out to be a total waste of time - but I can't talk about it anymore so I will just stay home and let this pass. And the rest of the chips will fall where they may afterwards. I might lose even more of what I don't have, and can never save up to keep up with, things that would improve my quality of life and prospect of a future - but f*** it. You can all criticize me all you want but I'm way stronger than you all think! Many of you would've shrivelled up already if you'd been through what I have - the steady constant challenges all the f***ing time. My life looks nothing the same as it was since I have known most of you. Nothing at all. But you wouldn't know it.

This is not fun let's be positive and do a puzzle, for some of us. f*** off to whoever is trying to sound like it is. You're too priveleged if you think that.
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I don't get this post. We aren't saying you must stay home. Chemguy is at work today. He's in his office, alone for the most part. No one here was pushing you about staying home., unless you have symptoms, which you haven't shared if you do. What I have dealt with is different, but I think my life has changed just as much, I've lost a lot too. It's not a competition though.
We only know what you have shared, and I think quite a few of us have tried to be supportive.

I think through this most people do have good intentions. Yes, some people panic and do selfish things. There's a lot of compassion now though too.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I'm actually afraid that if I needed the food bank - I only know of one main one in town, one of my ministers volunteers there and they might be embarrassed, we'd be mutually embarrassed if I went in there and saw them.
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As someone who volunteers at a local food bank & community hub - this has never been my experience. People working there are NOT judgemental. Embarassment belies your own sense of stigma about those needing some support. You're not alone in that sadly, and it does prevent some from accessing important resources.

I do think "we see what we believe" to be a truism - so if one has some sense that people are inherently good and helpful, it's easier to "see the helpers" and work toward solutions. If one believes in a selfish, greedy society - then the opposite may be more prevalent as one looks around.
Perspective is everything.
 
ChemGal said:
I've lost a lot too. It's not a competition though.
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This.

I have always disagreed with "competitive suffering" In my opinion that approach often lead to more hurt. No one wins when we play that game.

Among the special needs parenting community there are a few parents who really engage in that practice. "Your kid has a feeding tube? Well, mine has a feeding tube AND seizures, and he's in the ICU. So there!". There is one parent in our local "circle" of parents I actively avoid. The second sentence out of her mouth - all the time - is how her child is on the brink of death. All. The. Time. For the record, her child is complicated, but not overwhelmingly fragile. Indeed, her child is actually much less medically fragile than Matthew, but you'd never know from the way she speaks. We were part of a panel a couple of weeks ago. It was almost embarrassing how she attempted to one up every other parent there. We had met on the elevator going up to the room for the meeting. Sure enough, the second sentence. I actually was waiting for it. I try to cut her some slack. Parenting a complex child is hard work and I think she has few supports.

Many of us here on WC2 are walking some challenging journeys.
 
DaisyJane said:
I have always disagreed with "competitive suffering" In my opinion that approach often lead to more hurt. No one wins when we play that game.
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I absolutely agree. It's sadly a rather common 'game' - and serves nobody well.
 
ChemGal said:
I don't get this post. We aren't saying you must stay home. Chemguy is at work today. He's in his office, alone for the most part. No one here was pushing you about staying home., unless you have symptoms, which you haven't shared if you do. What I have dealt with is different, but I think my life has changed just as much, I've lost a lot too. It's not a competition though.
We only know what you have shared, and I think quite a few of us have tried to be supportive.

I think through this most people do have good intentions. Yes, some people panic and do selfish things. There's a lot of compassion now though too.
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Work is the most likely place I would catch it, with lots of p/t people rotating shifts, sharing equipment, sitting in the same circulating air for 4 hrs. I don't want to catch it, or spread it and I'd rather get 2 weeks over with while I feel healthy, and the virus dies down somewhat - not wait until I am sick and have an ordeal drag on longer.

I don't have any symptoms out of my normal or what I didn't have long before this. I did get an irritated throat and sinuses headache from prolonged cleaning with bleach cleaner. And hot flashed before my period because I am perimenopasal. I mentioned that. Whatever I have that appear to be sysmptom-like are things that are typical for me on a regular basis long before this started.

My landlady/ step sister in law above me is coughing right now though. She has a nervous throat clearing sort of tick she's long had when she gets stressed, though.
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Work is the most likely place I would catch it, with lots of p/t people rotating shifts, sharing equipment, sitting in the same circulating air for 4 hrs. I don't want to catch it, or spread it and I'd rather get 2 weeks over with while I feel healthy, and the virus dies down somewhat - not wait until I am sick and have an ordeal drag on longer.
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Unfortunately I think this will take more than 2 weeks. I hope I am wrong.
I'm not sure what your current job is exactly though, if that would stay up and running if things get worse.
 
ChemGal said:
Unfortunately I think this will take more than 2 weeks. I hope I am wrong.
I'm not sure what your current job is exactly though, if that would stay up and running if things get worse.
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Office workstations. Call centre. Pollsters essentially.

I will lay low 2 weeks and see what the situation looks like then.
 
I do agree that if you shelter in your apartment you have less chance of getting the virus. But I believe experts expect this to last several months. Not two weeks

for the most part, the plans to cancel school for two weeks is just preliminary

ie. Ontario declared an emergency Till the end of the month. The reason? They can in,y declare for two weeks, then they can extend for two weeks, then they must have a vote in legislature to cintinue

I only say this because I get the feeling you think two weeks will keep you safe

better would be to work as normal, or have your office go on line. And wash and keep your distance

an issue is taking transit. That outs everyone in close contact and more at risk. However people do need to get to work so transit is still running

you have to do what feels right. But working and reaching out to Facebook groups for help seems sensible
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I'd rather get 2 weeks over with while I feel healthy, and the virus dies down somewhat
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You most likely will see virus numbers ramp up substantially in the next two weeks (and beyond) - slowing the pace of that increase is the goal of the social distancing initiatives, so we can distribute the increase over time in order to not overwhelm the health system as much with a dramatic spike. That said - the system will still be stressed in most places - but less is better, right?
 
Carolla said:
You most likely will see virus numbers ramp up substantially in the next two weeks - slowing the pace of that increase is the goal of the social distancing initiatives, so we can distribute the increase over time in order to not overwhelm the health system as much with a dramatic spike. That said - the system will still be stressed in most places - but less is better, right?
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Then sometime in the next two weeks I would have to do this anyway - but if people at work end up catching it they will shut down for awhile anyway I'm sure. So everyone will be in the same boat eventually.
 
I think one of the hardest things to cope with self isolation is the emotional and physical loneliness. It occurs to me that if my husband was still alive the loneliness factor wouldn't be a problem. I worry if this goes on for too long I'll end up like one of Harlow's touch deprived monkeys, as will the many the world over that occupy single households .And then there are those that experience another kind of loneliness, like Kimmio, who feel emotionally isolated from those that share the same household......

Still, as Carolla says, perspective is everything. Chances are that if my husband was still with me, we'd be showing our stress by bickering about nothing of importance. Such is life, Such is perspective.

Perhaps it would help if we could all widen our perspective - see the forest and not just our own maple for you, eucalyptus for me, single tree?
 
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