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This came from a friend of mine:

"My apologies for putting on my psychology-teacher hat... but, there is a very interesting phenomenon that happens when people are in crisis... we panic, we get scared, then we react. At times, those actions, or reactions, don’t make a lot of sense. The behaviour of hoarding materials items in times of shortages, of course, goes against the greater good of humanity, but for people who are panicking, it makes them feel like they may be alright, or at least a bit better than the ones who don’t have materials, bringing about short-term reassurance and sense of control back into their psyches. The idea of ‘imposed isolations’ falls into this same psychology... its the feeling of not having control. And, for those of you and us who have a strong internal locus of control, this external force is nothing short of terrifying. And, even though we’ve all said ‘if only I can get away from it for a while’... when we now finally can, but not of our choices, it is then perceived as uncomfortable. All this loss of power and control falls into something called perception of control... if we ‘feel’ out of control of a situation, we react. If we chose to go camping in the bush away from it all for 2 weeks, with just our books and a few yummy foods, then we perceive the situation as completely our doing, of our control. But, in reality, we have little control over our lives even in calm times. If we change our perceptions of the situation and took stalk of the things in our lives we do have control over, this lessens the anxiety within. For example: “Oh, ok, I guess I can really clean out my house like I have been wanting to do” or “I have a few projects I have been dying to do, and now I can” or “Hmm, this is going to be interesting, I guess I should make a list of things to do”... this shift in perception, not situation, changes how we feel about what is happening, which then changes our behaviour, and our reactions. Nothing changes, but... it does. I have to admit, I have been watching way too much news, and reading too much about the virus, as if by reading, hearing and keeping minute-to-minute up to date, I somehow will be able to stay in control of it all. And this, of course, is a false belief... its magical thinking, as I actually have no control of the situation, beyond my own personal actions. Instead of watching things that are beyond my control, I took stock today, and saw things more clearly. I will do my part, as best I can. I will stay informed and I will be responsible. But, beyond that, I need to see that many many things are out of my control. When we see someone in grocery store, panic-shopping, let’s have a bit of mercy... they are reacting out of fear. When someone is ranting at world leaders who are doing the best they can, remember... it is out of fear. I see a lot of scared people right now, and although I want to cuff them on the side of their head and explain simple math in terms of how much toilet paper one person needs for a month, instead, I am going to try and send them mercy and love, and let’s all focus on the things we can control."
This seems like a lesson in self delusion from my perspective. Yes, we need to do it sometimes. But we need to know when not to, also.

Believe it or not, my fears are not just personal and immediate. They're global and long term. We have to have some fear for the latter too, imo.
 
Please take a break and regroup.
Please don't tell me what to do. You wouldn't put up with that directive from me.

I agree I need a break. I am not panicking as much as people believe when someone patronizes (concern trolls) and everyone decides that's the kindest way to shut off opposing opinion. I am as calm/ concerned as everyone, but for different reasons maybe.
 
And please don't concern troll me as a power trip, anyone, either. Because you're not helping. This is real and I have a right to my feelings and opinions, too, and to get them off my chest - even if you don't like them.
How many times were you told to shut up? How many times did you say it?
 
Please don't tell me what to do. You wouldn't put up with that directive from me.

Oh FFS. I was only saying that because you said you need a break. You are taking offence at every little thing. Have at er. If you want to stick around and be miserable go for it.
 
How many times were you told to shut up? How many times did you say it?
Twice. And I apologized to you. It was more of a global "oh shuuut uuup!" than a personal one because I disagree with the hype and your opinion happens to reflect it, and I got a bit testy on the subject.

I suspect I won't have many people backing my opinion here. Not now, not yet anyway. If everyone with the sniffles and sore throat and a mild cough (and they won't recommend or have the resources for testing all of those cases so they won't know if it's ever been stamped out) has to stay home in quarantine for 2 weeks on an infinate rotating loop - people, even people who can financially afford to do that a few times a year, will get pissed off eventually.

The probability is high that this just becomes another common annual virus, and we may have to accept that sometime, without quarantining every case forever.
 
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I suspect I won't have many people backing my opinion here. Not now anyway

People have tried to empathize with you. People have tried to support you. Instead of seeing any support you have pushed people away and have taken a persecuted stance. That's too bad. As you've been told before over the years, you have great thoughts and passion. It seems that when you are anxious and scared you push people away. You get worked up and angry then leave. After you've had a break you come back more relaxed and able to connect. You are an important part of this board and part of the family. When I suggest that you take a break it is out of concern.
 
People have tried to empathize with you. People have tried to support you. Instead of seeing any support you have pushed people away and have taken a persecuted stance. That's too bad. As you've been told before over the years, you have great thoughts and passion. It seems that when you are anxious and scared you push people away. You get worked up and angry then leave. After you've had a break you come back more relaxed and able to connect. You are an important part of this board and part of the family. When I suggest that you take a break it is out of concern.
No. I responded to your questions on the issue of age and immune status - and you felt persecuted and flipped it back on me. My overall opinion on this isn't about you personally. Others opinions (not necessarily here) who believe the government vigilance is all fine, nothing to see here, do a jigsaw puzzle - are not about me.
 
NYC has had 7 deaths out of 463 cases, and they're shutting the whole place down. Unbelievable.

And this! In other news...

Anyone care? This is in the US where vaccination rates may be lower, but people do take antiviral drugs when hospitalized.

 
As of February 25th 2020, there were 35,356 cases of influenza in Canada. 500-1500 deaths per year, from the flu, in Canada. Where we have vaccines and antiviral drugs.

In 2019 there were 39,192 total cases of the flu. 1500/39,192=.038%

500/39,192=.012%

...so, it looks to me like the death rates are about the same except more kids are dying from the flu, even with vaccines and antiviral drugs. That didn't make the 24/7 news cycle though. Go figure the world gets shut down now, over this disease and it's all people care about - because that's what you have been told to care more about. Or, because the media is hammering home that you are in a risk group this time - when the same populations always were - and you're not paying attention to who is more at risk for what else.
 
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Alright already. f***.
I have decided to stay home for two weeks. I've done it before for not this reason. It was after my separation. It was probably 3 weeks, maybe a month, with the exception of a few half hour trips to the store, but hardly any - then somebody peeled me off the floor (not literally but almost - I was sleeping in a half deflated air bed "our" furniture was in storage and I am still paying for it because I want a place for it someday - which had been replaced twice and I ditched it for the floor because I had no money. f***ed up my back.) Then a friend rescued me and let me stay with her for a couple of weeks - I was effectively homeless - and I came here. It was a rough time. Nobody here really gave much of a s**t so I put on my brave face and you all just thought I was angry with "my hot button issues". That's not to say I wasn't but when I am in survival mode it's just how I need to be. Pissed off. Being pissed off about stuff saved my life, If you have never been in survival mode like that you wouldn't know.Nevermind. I lost my whole life once already - everything. But, frankly, most people are annoying if one is around them too much anyway, so - from that perspective, I can do it. I'll look after myself. Everyone else is. It'll be rough and may turn out to be a total waste of time - but I can't talk about it anymore so I will just stay home and let this pass. And the rest of the chips will fall where they may afterwards. I might lose even more of what I don't have, and can never save up to keep up with, things that would improve my quality of life and prospect of a future - but f*** it. You can all criticize me all you want but I'm way stronger than you all think! Many of you would've shrivelled up already if you'd been through what I have - the steady constant challenges all the f***ing time. My life looks nothing the same as it was since I have known most of you. Nothing at all. But you wouldn't know it.

This is not fun let's be positive and do a puzzle, for some of us. f*** off to whoever is trying to sound like it is. You're too priveleged if you think that.
 
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No because I doubt people who already get disability help qualify. Landlords should share the "inconvenience". They are technically extended family in my case, charging too much anyway.
 
Ask for assistance and it may be there. Governments are scrambling to figure out how to help all the people affected by closures and quarantines

if you dont ask you won’t know
 
Ask for assistance and it may be there. Governments are scrambling to figure out how to help all the people affected by closures and quarantines

if you dont ask you won’t know
I have been reading about it. I will keep informed but I don't think it's meant for "us" (disability recipients). Thanks though. As long as I have about $800 per month I can "shelter in place" and survive. But I might lose my belongings from my former life completely.

You do know about half of all people - tens of millions - couldn't scrape together $500 in an emergency, right lastpointe? They won't earmark more for "us"... because we're used to it. It's just another blow like whatever our last one was. Just another s**t storm.

Welcome to reality. I hope nobody (me nor you) regrets their points of view right now, in a couple of months time.
 
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