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Ritafee said:
Perhaps a version of the YES scam ...
If you answer “yes,” there’s a possibility the scam artist has recorded you and will use the response to sign you up for a product or service, and then demand payment. If you refuse to pay, the caller may use your recorded “yes” to confirm your purchase agreement.
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Perhaps. I answered no anyway, but I have a feeling it was legitimately from the hospital, perhaps some effort to scan for coronavirus?
 
BetteTheRed said:
No, it was quite strange. It was a robocall (and neither my name or any others were mentioned), and person gave their contact info if you were aware enough to write it down. Said it was from the Royal Victoria LHN (I have no call display or anything to confirm the origin of the call). And it was a vague question about whether you'd had any breathlessness in the last 6 months. And promising/threatening me with a follow-up call if I answered yes.
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There's no Royal Victoria LHN that I know of. The Barrie hospital is, as I know, still Royal Victoria Hospital unless they've had a proposal accepted for one of these new local health teams (which is possible, though I am surprised I have not heard since our Barrie office is a Joint Venture with that hospital). The term in Ontario is LHIN and you're in North Simcoe Muskoka (NSM) until the process of merging them into Ontario Health is complete. I know because work has a contract with them to do complex respiratory care (trach care, ventilation). There is a Royal Victoria Local Hospital Network in Oz per a Google search but weird that they would be robocalling a Canadian number.
 
What's the LHN/ LHIN all about? We don't have those here unless they're called something else (I passed a sign on a "public health unit" yesterday. It's a building where a birth control clinic used to be and maybe still is.) we also have "Health Authorities" - separate branches across the province. I don't think we have LHIN or LHN. I googled them and I don't quite understand what's going on in Ontario regarding the changes either. Less transparency?
 
Local Health Networks. Like I said it was a wyrd call. Said RVH but then something else, that I heard as LHN.

Why would you be robocalling a county of people to find out if they'd experienced breathlessness?
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
What's the LHN/ LHIN all about?
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LHIN = Local Health Integration Network

They are regional bodies set up a decade or two ago in Ontario to coordinate health care delivery resources. They later merged with the CCACs (Community Care Access Centers) giving them direct management of home care services, which is the context in which my employer deals with them at present.

The plan now is to replace them with a single agency called Ontario Health and encourage local health organizations like hospitals, long-term and home care agencies, and such to form teams to manage delivery of health care. My employer is already a partner in at least of these teams.
 
I look at events from many perspectives ... what I can see *here is 16 tonnes of garbage ... and that is just a drop in the bucket ... not to be callous ... how much pollution from start to finish do these 'disposables' contibute to health epidemics world wide?

www.reuters.com

China's coronavirus epicenter boosts medical waste treatment as new cases spike

The Chinese province at the center of the coronavirus outbreak has almost doubled its medical waste handling capacity after media images of bags of garbage piling up uncovered in hospital yards raised public concerns over secondary infections.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

*Canada has sent 16 tonnes of personal protective equipment, such as clothing, face shields, masks, goggles and gloves, to China since February 4, 2020. (Global Affairs Canada)
www.who.int

Health-care waste

WHO fact sheet on healthcare waste, including key facts, types of waste, health risks, environmental impact and WHO response.
www.who.int www.who.int
 
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"Disposables" are what is protecting the world from antibiotic resistant bacteria. It's another horrible dilemma in our predicament. If there's one place we need to maintain single use plastic, at present, it's medicine, largely because of c diff and other AMR.
 
One would think there'd be a biodegradable and/ or (sterilizable) reusable alternative now. I'm sure it's possible, just not a (medical supply sales) priority. That must be a really lucrative - but rather unnoticed to the average person who doesn't usually purchase medical supplies directly - market. Then, that also gets passed on to general healthcare costs. Capitalism as we know it, is a big racket.
 
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Latest news is that there is a possibility the virus may have came from a lab in Wuhan and spread....it is a lab very close to a market. Stay tuned.
 
In the past medical supplies were mainly glass and metal. As nursing staff you opened a sterile package, out together glass and metal objects. Put them together. Used them. Put them on carts where they went back to the sterilization department. They were washed, cleaned, repackaged, resterilized. Sent back to the floor on carts. It was a major production. A major cost. And a problem for small medical facilities. Only large hospitals could afford these departments and these massive autoclave machines

other hospitals had to sub contract. have daily supplies delivered by truck.........

the other issue was hospitals had to have tons of equipment. Glass syringes broke, frequently. Metal things bent. And each floor had to have a supply of these wrapped trays to use

and of course sterilization could be flawed

the switch to disposables, while a cost to hospitals was a big savings. And made clean, sterile objects available to everyone

when I started nursing, the only actual disposal plastic things we used was IV tubing. the actual fluids was in glass bottles. The weight of all these supplies was quite remarkable
 
Detuned is the preferred state of psyche ... thus raptures and abyss to the eternal degrees! They slide as if slicked ...
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Yes. It was a market valued $55.6 billion US in 2019 with a projected "healthy" (pardon the pun) growth rate of almost 7% in the next several years.

www.marketwatch.com

Disposable Medical Supplies Market Trends Research and Consist Anticipated to 55.60 billion USD by 2019-2026

Sep 26, 2019 (Hitech News Daily via COMTEX) -- Global Disposable Medical Supplies Market is valued approximately USD 55.60 billion in 2019 and is anticipated...
www.marketwatch.com www.marketwatch.com
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because we are A larger, older and sicker population than we used to be
 
Lastpointe said:
In the past medical supplies were mainly glass and metal. As nursing staff you opened a sterile package, out together glass and metal objects. Put them together. Used them. Put them on carts where they went back to the sterilization department. They were washed, cleaned, repackaged, resterilized. Sent back to the floor on carts. It was a major production. A major cost. And a problem for small medical facilities. Only large hospitals could afford these departments and these massive autoclave machines

other hospitals had to sub contract. have daily supplies delivered by truck.........

the other issue was hospitals had to have tons of equipment. Glass syringes broke, frequently. Metal things bent. And each floor had to have a supply of these wrapped trays to use

and of course sterilization could be flawed

the switch to disposables, while a cost to hospitals was a big savings. And made clean, sterile objects available to everyone

when I started nursing, the only actual disposal plastic things we used was IV tubing. the actual fluids was in glass bottles. The weight of all these supplies was quite remarkable
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Thus massive missives about efficiency and considerable cuts ... Asclepius?
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Which generates a lot of profit for that market, that I suspect they don't want to lose any of, in a move to reusable or biodegradable or anything that threatened their lucrative business model.
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did you read my post #233 about using disposables. Far easier, cheaper, more sterile.......and available to everyone
 
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