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Look - Israel was first proposed by Britain in WW1, partly to get rid of Jews, and partly to edge the French out of the middle east. But Jews were not interested.
But, after Hitler, the Jews wanted out - and nobody (especially Canada and the U.S.0 would accept them). So they flooded to Palestine, and kicked out most of the palestinians. The rest have been allowed to stay, but only as third class citizens. israel also began the gross theft of palestinian land. (The result was that Palestinians and Jews who had lived together in Palestine on good terms for centuries became enemies.) The U.S. took up the israeli cause not for any love of Jews, but to edge Britain out of middle east influence.
That has led to almost 60 years of chaos in the region. But every American president has followed that policy in order to make American oil companies happy. Trump at least has the brains to realize this is a bad policy. (In fact, we are at and beyond the edge of war between Israel and Syria - and Lebanon. And what that can turn into is anybody's guess.)
Trump realizes that Israel and Palestine have to come to a peaceful and mutually acceptable solution. So far, he is the only president to have realized that - though all have talked about it.
Generally, the trouble with Trump is that he's very much like the presidents of the last 70 years - and he makes it worse with his ego problem But on Israel, he's way ahead of the pack.
If you get obsessed with Trump, you miss the whole problem.
 
crazyheart said:
It seems to me that Trump is gaining weigh by the lb. Or he wear full body armour.
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When the camera catches him at bad angles, he does. I saw a photo of him golfing in 2012 and he looked pretty much the same. Maybe his weight has a tendency to go up and down. It's the least of my worries though. Another thing that is the least of my worries, but curious, is that his hair seems to change frequently from various shades of flossy yellow, to caramel - or "rose gold" hair which is all the rage - to burnt pumpkin, to white, on any given day. Along with his eyebrows. Maybe it's cosmetic artistry - it's unusual though. Anyone else notice that? Maybe it's just the lighting. (Those are very trivial things next to the weight of the world, though.)
 
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Graeme Decarie said:
Look - Israel was first proposed by Britain in WW1, partly to get rid of Jews, and partly to edge the French out of the middle east. But Jews were not interested.
But, after Hitler, the Jews wanted out - and nobody (especially Canada and the U.S.0 would accept them). So they flooded to Palestine, and kicked out most of the palestinians. The rest have been allowed to stay, but only as third class citizens. israel also began the gross theft of palestinian land. (The result was that Palestinians and Jews who had lived together in Palestine on good terms for centuries became enemies.) The U.S. took up the israeli cause not for any love of Jews, but to edge Britain out of middle east influence.
That has led to almost 60 years of chaos in the region. But every American president has followed that policy in order to make American oil companies happy. Trump at least has the brains to realize this is a bad policy. (In fact, we are at and beyond the edge of war between Israel and Syria - and Lebanon. And what that can turn into is anybody's guess.)
Trump realizes that Israel and Palestine have to come to a peaceful and mutually acceptable solution. So far, he is the only president to have realized that - though all have talked about it.
Generally, the trouble with Trump is that he's very much like the presidents of the last 70 years - and he makes it worse with his ego problem But on Israel, he's way ahead of the pack.
If you get obsessed with Trump, you miss the whole problem.
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Vale of decision about how to deal with the final solution ... put eM all in a haute spot and let eM conflict! Thus Trump is afflicted and suffering affection as a draw to a destructive zone ...
 
Kimmio said:
Trump wants to cancel PBS because Sesame Street parodied him with a grouch who was a builder - of Grump Tower. Really? I don't know. Funny this is the first we've heard about Ronald Grump. But, if so, that was ingenious of Sesame Street. DT has no sense of humour about himself.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/03/20/trump-wants-to-defund-pbs-sesame-street-brutally-parodied-him-for-decades/?utm_term=.436c1af048a9
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Thus is a character often observed in authorities ... not by them as they cannot see bi-themselves ... requires sol and the potential is they got none! Mire auras assist ... and thus are often said to be critical for self-examination ... in depth ... not superficially by those believing in superstitious activity and not in subliminal stuff ... to much on the inside fringe!

Thus the rejection of the concept of cognition by the subconscious and we presently encounter this as force no-how ... and there is little knowing ... as declared regarding trees of knowledge obscured by large authorities ... examine the small stuff in the detailing of monkeys to cause authorities to go ape chit for a bit!
 
Luce NDs said:
Thus is a character often observed in authorities ... not by them as they cannot see bi-themselves ... requires sol and the potential is they got none! Mire auras assist ... and thus are often said to be critical for self-examination ... in depth ... not superficially by those believing in superstitious activity and not in subliminal stuff ... to much on the inside fringe!

Thus the rejection of the concept of cognition by the subconscious and we presently encounter this as force no-how ... and there is little knowing ... as declared regarding trees of knowledge obscured by large authorities ... examine the small stuff in the detailing of monkeys to cause authorities to go ape chit for a bit!
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Some of those watched the 1995 parody may have only voted for the first or second time last year. Some who watched the 2005 parody, coinciding with The Apprentice era - will be voting for the first time in the next election. Maybe it stuck with them.
 
I have no faith. U.S. behaviour, dominated by the wishes of billionaires, continues unchanged. People, especially children, are going to die in their millions in Yemen. Care to tell me why the U.S. is killing them? As well, expectation are that within a decade or so, 1 child in four IN THE WORLD will suffer from shortage of water.
The money of the wealthy is rising out of sight as they hide their money in tax havens. That has to be made up with our tax money. And there's not enough of that for health, social assistance, education.... And there's no end in sight to that disparity. And it's not just Trump that's doing this. It's almost every leader in the western world.
We have allowed greed to rise to immense power and, as always, greed creates stupidity in its advocates. Do you know why the U.S. killed many, many millions in Vietnam? a million in Iraq? unknown numbers of men women and children in Syria - and now in Yemen? Read any news about that?
It's not just Trump. Most American presidents have been aggressors - across the continent of American in what became the U.S., in Mexico, in Canada, Hawaii, throughout Latin America, the Phillippines, and now over most of the world. CAn you tell me what those wars have been about?
American wealth has been built on the working poor in the U.S. and other countries. And it's getting much, much worse.

Nor have our churches been much help, have they?:
Tell me how it's going to get better.
 
"Herbert Spencer was an incredible prophet and a magnificent defender of laissez-faire. Among his numerous works is The Man Versus The State, first published in 1884. That book launched one of the most spirited attacks on statism ever written. He ridiculed the idea that government intervention of any kind "will work as it is intended to work, which it never does." He drew on his tremendous knowledge of history, citing one dramatic case after another of price controls, usury laws, slum clearance laws, and myriad other laws which, touted as compassionate policies, intensified human misery. Below is one of his essays that explores the principles of self-government, which Henry David Thoreau defended in his seminal essay, Civil Disobedience." ....

Source: http://www.constitution.org/hs/ignore_state.htm

.... "See here, then, the predicament, a system of moral philosophy professes to be a code of correct rules for the control of human beings — fitted for the regulation of the best as well as the worst members of the race — applicable, if true, to the guidance of humanity in its highest conceivable perfection. Government, however, is an institution originating in man's imperfection; an institution confessedly begotten by necessity out of evil; one which might be dispensed with were the world peopled with the unselfish, the conscientious, the philanthropic; one, in short, inconsistent with this same "highest conceivable perfection." How, then, can that be a true system of morality which adopts government as one of its premises?"
 
Whatever you call it, it needs to be an organized system. Not top down. Not bottom up because people need to know what they're doing and share knowledge with others and care about others (not what's happening - they've got the "so-called" flaming pitchforks out instead). Horizontal "governance" is needed. But no governance is just a mess.
 
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Graeme Decarie said:
I have no faith. U.S. behaviour, dominated by the wishes of billionaires, continues unchanged. People, especially children, are going to die in their millions in Yemen. Care to tell me why the U.S. is killing them? As well, expectation are that within a decade or so, 1 child in four IN THE WORLD will suffer from shortage of water.
The money of the wealthy is rising out of sight as they hide their money in tax havens. That has to be made up with our tax money. And there's not enough of that for health, social assistance, education.... And there's no end in sight to that disparity. And it's not just Trump that's doing this. It's almost every leader in the western world.
We have allowed greed to rise to immense power and, as always, greed creates stupidity in its advocates. Do you know why the U.S. killed many, many millions in Vietnam? a million in Iraq? unknown numbers of men women and children in Syria - and now in Yemen? Read any news about that?
It's not just Trump. Most American presidents have been aggressors - across the continent of American in what became the U.S., in Mexico, in Canada, Hawaii, throughout Latin America, the Phillippines, and now over most of the world. CAn you tell me what those wars have been about?
American wealth has been built on the working poor in the U.S. and other countries. And it's getting much, much worse.

Nor have our churches been much help, have they?:
Tell me how it's going to get better.
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The despots are getting elderly. Young people who watched Sesame Street aren't going to have Trump featured in the next round. He'll be voted out. :) They'll replace him with people who represent the kind of future they want to see. Why not? It's as plausible as anything. Sesame Street reinforced some of the best values I learned as a wee kid - helped shape my moral character. I'm sure it taught me, or reinforced in me, that sharing is good, greed is bad, we should love our neighbours, no matter their gender or colour of their skin. I didn't grow up with church being a regular feature of my life. You may even call these "Christian" values, though. So, if the churches have been silent, as you say, "God" is still working. If the churches aren't doing what God intends for the greater good. The Spirit finds a way. Maybe good seeds have been planted years ago. Before all this political junk.
 
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