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[airclean33]

"Well good for you ----you have it all together all by yourself it seem ------- " unsafe

Hi... Do you suppose that the Samaritan who stopped to help his "neighbour" will be accepted in the household of God? How about the two religious fellas who had "more important" things on their minds. I suspect that the latter would judge the former for failing to meet certain religious standards.

And, what does Matthew's picture of judgement day tell us about what matters most to God?

George

--Hi George--He is of the chosen George.
. The parable of the good Samaritan:
"Jesus replied and said, "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead. "And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. "Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. "But a Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion, and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him. "On the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.' "Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers' hands?" And he said, "The one who showed mercy toward him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do the same."" Luke 10:30-37
He is of the lost 10 Tribes of Israel.

 

[Luce NDs]

If he wasn't directed to go to Jew Roué slam ... would he have avoided the impact of a rotten life with people of avarice?

Got Tobe another side to this dark existence for the oppressed and subtle support system of great Canon ... polity of lies?

Really what do wee people know about eternal virtue? Nothing!

 

[GeoFee]

--Hi George--He is of the chosen George.

Hi airclean,

Jesus chose the Samaritan as an example of someone who gets it in contrast to the Priest and the Levite who fail to get it. Does Matthew's story of last judgement say anything about what those who helped others believed? Does it say anything about what those who failed to help others believed? I do not think so. The parable seems to saying quite clearly that actions speak louder than words. A person who does good will have no trouble with God. A person who claims the name of God and fails to do good may be surprised at how things turn out in the last day.

You may throw a pile of scripture at me if that pleases your God. It will not serve your hopes well.

George

 

[unsafe]

GeoFee -----your quote----- Do you suppose that the Samaritan who stopped to help his "neighbour" will be accepted in the household of God?

I know I am wasting my time answering this GeoFee but just maybe someone out there might be interested ---cause I know how much you hate scripture that doesn't line up with your theology of do good get to heaven ----the law

Remember GeoFee ----Jesus came under the Law -----do good get good ----do bad get bad ---the Blessing and the Curse was in place

So No- GeoFee ----not since Jesus died on the cross to bring in Grace ------many believe the good Samaritan was Jesus Himself ------Good works will not get you into Heaven or in God's good Books GeoFee -----You GeoFee are stuck under the law ---you Preach that every Sunday in your Sermons ---do good get good ----Jesus died to free us from the Law ---your still Preaching the Blessing and the Curse ----Jesus freed us from the Curse of the Law GeoFee -------you never Preach Grace always the Old Testament law ----get out and do good deeds is all you Preach and Corporate Greed ----and while doing good deeds is a great thing --it will not get you in right standing with God -----it will not get you in Heaven

Good deeds will not make you Righteous ---but Righteous people do good deeds ------going to Church will not make you Righteous ----but Righteous people go to church ----Serving at the soup kitchen will not make you righteous ---but righteous people serve at the soup kitchen ---teaching Sunday won't make you righteous --but righteous people teach Sunday school -----helping your neighbour won't make you Righteous --but Righteous people help their neighbour ----


And notice in that Parable ---the Good Samaritan not only bandaged him --he took him to an inn and paid the innkeeper to look after him ----so there is an exchange of money for help ----no fear in giving away his silver coins -----many may bandage him but not many will part with their money to help others in fear of leaving themselves short -----but here is the thing this teaches ---you can't serve 2 masters when it comes to helping the poor --sometimes our money is needed to help God's poor ---but our needs and wants keep us in fear of giving our money to further God's Kingdom -----This Samaritan gave freely -----it doesn't say if he was rich or not ---just maybe he gave all he had at the time to help the man --Trusting that God would provide him with the coins if he needed to pay more ----


Luke 10:33-37GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

33 “But a Samaritan, as he was traveling along, came across the man. When the Samaritan saw him, he felt sorry for the man,34 went to him, and cleaned and bandaged his wounds. Then he put him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him.35 The next day the Samaritan took out two silver coins and gave them to the innkeeper. He told the innkeeper, ‘Take care of him. If you spend more than that, I’ll pay you on my return trip.’
36 “Of these three men, who do you think was a neighbor to the man who was attacked by robbers?”
37 The expert said, “The one who was kind enough to help him.”
Jesus told him, “Go and imitate his example!”


Your only interested in the scripture about works and money -----You like to dish out scripture to others GeoFee ---but you don't want others to dish out scripture to you ------you skip over the scripture you don't want to believe in or want people to know about -----you really Preach your own Gospel----just like so many other Ministers ----


Same scripture verse ---6 God has brought us back to life together with Christ Jesus and has given us a position in heaven with him.7 He did this through Christ Jesus out of his generosity to us in order to show his extremely rich kindness in the world to come.8 God saved you through faith as an act of kindness. You had nothing to do with it. Being saved is a gift from God.9 It’s not the result of anything you’ve done, so no one can brag about it

Worth repeating ----to bad you don't Preach it -----God saved you through faith as an act of kindness. You had nothing to do with it. Being saved is a gift from God.9 It’s not the result of anything you’ve done, so no one can brag about it

No sin can enter Heaven GeoFee -----Heaven is a Holy Place until we have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us we are unholy and unclean in God's eyes ---what we think doesn't matter ----it is what God say in His word that matter to God ----If the person's Name GeoFee is not in the Lambs Book of Life they are not getting into Heaven according to scripture -----Revelations 21 ----


No Sin Will Enter Heaven

Revelation 21:27ESV / https://www.openbible.info/topics/no_sin_will_enter_heaven

But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Sin is unclean GeoFee ----all who have not the Holy Spirit are Sinners in God's eyes ------it doesn't matter how we see other people you can do all the works you want and you will be still unclean in God's eyes -----

Now you can say your interpret scripture different -----etc --etc ----but that doesn't change the very plain English that doesn't need a degree to understand ---it says in plain language what it says ----this is the Greek word used in this scripture for unclean ----

unclean,
κοινὸνkoinon2839commonfromsun

2839. koinos►
Strong's Concordance
koinos: common
Original Word:κοινός, ή, όν
Part of Speech:Adjective
Transliteration:koinos
Phonetic Spellingkoy-nos')
Short Definition:common, shared, unclean

Definitiona) common, shared, (b) Hebraistic use: profane; dirty, unclean, unwashed.

The only way to get washed is to have sin removed and Jesus is the way by receiving Him as your Lord and Saviour ---His Shed Blood washed our sin away and we become Holy ---set apart ----and heaven bound ----Period

Wasting my time I know but there it is ----God's word ----says it all --Not to many ways to interpret that ---very plain --not rocket science --no degrees needed --very powerful statement ----but many don't believe it ----

 

[GeoFee]

Hi...

Grateful that you are not the gatekeeper of heaven and hell.

George

 

[Neo]

--Ok Lets look at Neighbors. You here yours is in need of food , because they have no money left. So you walk over and hand Him 100 Dollars. You feel good about this , as you feel you have obeyed GODS Word". Wrong " GOD would never had sent you there to give your Neighbor money . You see GOD knows your Neighbor is a drunk, that's why they have no money. You have given him money to drink. I believe, This is doing evil thinking good. GOD always thinks good , and would have told you" how to deal with it.

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Great example of how God in us ---The Holy Spirit --- can direct us to discern who we should help and how we should help -----

Do you two actually think about what you're saying sometimes? I mean really. Christ doesn't reappear for the saved only, He made that very clear, several times.

Is it GOD's best interest to let someone with an addiction suffer and starve, possibly to death? Of course not. Ask yourself, how can GOD Itself do anything about this kind of misery, if not through us? Brotherhood is not just a brotherhood of religionists, it involves everyone, (including sisters!).

Why would you two automatically think that it would be "wrong" to give that person money? And then go as far as to say that you're the word of God and the Holy Spirt when saying this? I mean, really. Sure, there's a chance that the person may go out buy another bottle, but that's the chance you take. Maybe that would be turning point for this person, who knows. But the main point is that this kind of thinking and preaching is hateful and cruel. Who are you to make this kind of judgement while others suffer? If you throw out acts of kindness like they were seeds then some are bound to take root. You just never know.

"Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers you did it to me.’"

 

[BetteTheRed]

I dont think its the method of execution as much as it is who is being executed

And who should be executed? Innocent Iraqi toddlers who live near the 'wrong' house? Poor women who fall through the Medicaid cracks and die of untreated cancer? A black teen who'd never had anything, with an IQ of 63, who made a poor decision? Jesus? These are the 'least of these' that Jesus was talking about. And 'we', as a species, are sitting back, letting it happen, and often, justifying it.

I watched "I, Daniel Blake" tonight at the local film club. Disturbing picture of social services bureaucracy in the U.K.

 

[blackbelt1961]

And who should be executed?

definitely not the innocent , but the rest ,narcissist , un repented mass Murders is up for debate. Notice the least of these Jesus was speaking about were followers of Him, brothers and sisters in the faith, they were not Evil doers , Jesus had some choice words for the evil doers , words that the world does not like to attribute to Christ


And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

 

[BetteTheRed]

And who is innocent? And who is guilty? And who are you to judge?

And where in the text does it indicate that the distinction between sheep and goats had anything to do with belief or religion? It had everything to do with how you treat the hungry, the sick, the prisoner, the naked, the widow, the orphan.

 

[blackbelt1961]

And who is innocent? And who is guilty? And who are you to judge?

I have no part in Judgement, society does , meaning there is an issue, take it up with them

And where in the text does it indicate that the distinction between sheep and goats had anything to do with belief or religion?

the Creator is not a religion, Clearly scripture teaches , Good, Evil, Heaven and hell , you may not believe it, you may not accept it, yet it is written and Jesus speaks about it

It had everything to do with how you treat the hungry, the sick, the prisoner, the naked, the widow, the orphan.

and the repentant, the rest Stalin, Hilter, Bundi ect , God will Judge

your post is a great example of picking and choosing what you like of scripture and discarding what you dont like

 

[Jaebius]

I have no part in Judgement, society does , meaning there is an issue, take it up with them




the Creator is not a religion, Clearly scripture teaches , Good, Evil, Heaven and hell , you may not believe it, you may not accept it, yet it is written and Jesus speaks about it



and the repentant, the rest Stalin, Hilter, Bundi ect , God will Judge

your post is a great example of picking and choosing what you like of scripture and discarding what you dont like

Yes. The whole counsel of Scripture needs to be considered.

 

[Luce NDs]

Yes. The whole counsel of Scripture needs to be considered.

Individually, or collectively with all the conflict found in that tome contracted by King Jaimes authority ... he liked the way it was said ... as he wasn't very understanding either. Can a man understanding without love ... or does one have to love the thought out intellect as it is out there ... diminished in the distancing from mortals desires?

How did that come round and about? A ball of emotional chaos taking position as spherical!

 

[Seeler]

--Hi Chansen --I chose Neighbor chanson, because to a Christian it is very Important that we take care of our neighbors. Many Christians don't understand who" there neighbors our. Let alone how to help them". The church I believe have mixed followers up . With the wrong ideas, they have been teaching we should be taken care of the world.

What I don't understand is the phrase ... who" there neighbors our. Let alone how to help them".

airclean, is it possible that you mean ... "who their neighbors are, let alone how to help them."?

 

[Luce NDs]

Neighbours are "me" to some who see all others as far out distractions from the point of gravitas ... a determinate word!

Some say stubborn as a donkey, camel, or a Zebra ... large blunder in HR! God conceals Ur Humus ...

 

[airclean33]

What I don't understand is the phrase ... who" there neighbors our. Let alone how to help them".

airclean, is it possible that you mean ... "who their neighbors are, let alone how to help them."?

Hi Seeler-- I took this from a post of Unsafe's

And notice in that Parable ---the Good Samaritan not only bandaged him --he took him to an inn and paid the innkeeper to look after him ----so there is an exchange of money for help ----no fear in giving away his silver coins -----many may bandage him but not many will part with their money to help others in fear of leaving themselves short -----but here is the thing this teaches ---you can't serve 2 masters when it comes to helping the poor --sometimes our money is needed to help God's poor ---but our needs and wants keep us in fear of giving our money to further God's Kingdom -----This Samaritan gave freely -----it doesn't say if he was rich or not ---just maybe he gave all he had at the time to help the man --Trusting that God would provide him with the coins if he needed to pay more ----
Airclean-post---As you can see the Seeler the good Samaritan seem to understand who his neighbor was.
I wonder did you no the Samaritan was of a Israel. He was a member of the lost 10 tribes. It seems Jesus is saying He was teach a lesson to the Ministers of that day.
We have today Christians being Kill all over the world . So who dose it seem we are helping?

 

[unsafe]

GeoFee ----your quote -----Grateful that you are not the gatekeeper of heaven and hell.

And Here is the Thing with you GeoFee ------ you say you have the Holy Spirit so your name is supposedly in the Book of Life --So your going to the pearly gates yourself ----while you preach the law to your church --do good get good and go to heaven and their names are blotted out of the lambs Book of Live when they die because you refuse to teach the true gospel ---accept Jesus who died to free you from your sins ----and so you are sending them for there doom ------while you are safe at the pearly gates ----how selfish is that ------

GeoFee -----you can say to me all you want to you can blame me for the nasty words in the Bible and scripture that you don't like to admit to or Preach -------but this is the Truth -unsafe didn't write the Bible ---God did -----God is the gatekeeper of who goes to heaven and hell -----not you or me -----God wrote these words GeoFee ----we can either believe or not and you Don't by your own admission ---you only believe your Gospel ----do good get good --you will be in heaven with God ----AND you conveniently forget about all the rest of what God --has to say about heaven and hell -----
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God wrote these words GoeFee Not Me -----and what Does God Say GeoFee about His word -----unsafe Didn't write any of these words --But unsafe Believes these words written by God ----GeoFee --so if you have an issue with these words then you will have to talk to your Holy Spirit -----not me -----I personally had nothing to do with God's written word -----I just Follow them and Believe by Faith they are truth

------just because you refuse to believe or preach them doesn't mean the are void ----
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-----God is at the Gate of Heaven and Hell -----

Jesus was already judged by His Father and He bore all our judgment ----his shed blood is the only way to get washed to enter heaven -----

And according to God's word ------That GeoFee is the real Truth -----

Go and Preach your Law GeoFee it matters not to me ----my sins are forgiven forever -----

 

[airclean33]

Do you two actually think about what you're saying sometimes? I mean really. Christ doesn't reappear for the saved only, He made that very clear, several times.

Airclean--post--It would have been nice here if you showed the you mean the first time Christ came as the lamb of GOD. Or the second time Christ comes as what He is King of Kings an Lord of Lords.I believe is the first time we Jesus The Christ. Yes it is true He came for more than one reason. We have been trying to explain that you. He was bring The Holly Spirit as well for one.

Neo-post
Is it GOD's best interest to let someone with an addiction suffer and starve, possibly to death? Of course not. Ask yourself, how can GOD Itself do anything about this kind of misery, if not through us? Brotherhood is not just a brotherhood of religionists, it involves everyone, (including sisters!).

Airclean-post
Here you seem to be talking of two different things. First you seem to think GOD cannot feed the world .All things are possible to GOD. Second that some Christian Women prefer to be addressed as Sister. I don't have any problem with that. But there is another part of GODS word that Said's a Christian is no longer a Male or female. But have all become Sons of GOD. As a son I have no power over another son.So a women has the same power as man in GODS Kingdom, in some case's more.

Neo-post--
Why would you two automatically think that it would be "wrong" to give that person money? And then go as far as to say that you're the word of God and the Holy Spirt when saying this? I mean, really. Sure, there's a chance that the person may go out buy another bottle, but that's the chance you take.

Airclean-post--Yes of course that your thoughts from your mind. Try to understand ,do really believe GOD knowing what the man would do . Would tell us to give him the money. I don't believe GOD helps people sin . God has said , No drunkard shell inter His Kingdom.

Neo- posted--
Maybe that would be turning point for this person, who knows. But the main point is that this kind of thinking and preaching is hateful and cruel. Who are you to make this kind of judgement while others suffer? If you throw out acts of kindness like they were seeds then some are bound to take root. You just never know.

Airclean--Who knows? GOD" knows' , we have but to learn to Liston to what He is telling us . To do the right thing," not to Liston to the mind" which will let you down every time.

 

[chansen]

Airclean--Who knows? GOD" knows' , we have but to learn to Liston to what He is telling us . To do the right thing," not to Liston to the mind" which will let you down every time.

To be fair, like any tool, its usefulness mostly depends on how well you've maintained it.

 

[Neo]

Airclean--Who knows? GOD" knows' , we have but to learn to Liston to what He is telling us . To do the right thing," not to Liston to the mind" which will let you down every time.

You totally sidestepped my point, which was that "you" pretend to know what God wants. You see an alcoholic and automatically assume that God sees this unfortunate Soul as undeserving of compassion and respect. Who are "you" to pass judgment and pretend to speak for God?

 

[airclean33]

To be fair, like any tool, its usefulness mostly depends on how well you've maintained it.

--Airclean--post- I don't see what your talking about Chansen. Do you see where humankind through out history , has done right? The Word of GOD ,says ,if Mankind is left on there own . They would destroy The world. Have a look around , today we stand at the edge.