TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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Graeme Decarie said:
For the first half of my blog today, I wrote a longish explanation of why it does not matter who wins the U.S. presidential election. It's too long for a posting here. Anyone who is interested can find it by googling
The Decarie Report August 19.
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if you really wanted people to read it you would actually post the link....
 
Considering the need for Nous Clear weapons and how high explosive 2000 lb. plastic explosives can damage a huge aria, when targeted accurately ... is nuclear spending just to support economy?

Does the economy mean more to the paradigm than people? Thus mental conflicts that some high level thinkers can't comprehend! Go'f ig Hur ...
 
Very few people are remembered for their failures. More to the point, you have failed to recognize his crimes.
Drone attacks are war crimes. The use of special ops to murder a women who was an environmentalist in Guatemala was a war crime. The bombing of Libya and Syria are war crimes. His record of building nuclear weapons is terrifying. His mass killings of civilians are war crimes. His support of Saudi Arabia (and participation in starving Yemen) is a war crime.
I could give you a list of good things done by Adolph Hitler. For example, he improved workes' wages. He gave everyone statue subsidized holidays. Would you suggest we remember him for that - and forget the rest?
Obama has done nothing whatever for those people discriminated against in the U.S. He has done nothing for the poor. He has allowed enormous enrichment of the already rich, especially the war industry. He has supplied weapons, including illegal ones, to most of the world.
You can't dismiss all that and say, "he meant well".
Oh. I know. I know. you can.
 
He probably had pressured advice from military brass along with GOP lawmakers to do things he didn't want to do sometimes. I have no idea what it's like to be in the man's shoes, neither do you, but it's not all his fault.

I think things went like this, more often than you are mentioning - as if it was all Obama...obstruction on everything from the GOP, on foreign and domestic issues. The whole point was to shut down Obama then make him take the fall:

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/6/...-Plot-To-Sabotage-US-Economy-with-Frank-Luntz
 
'he probably', 'I have no idea', 'I think...'
Kimmio, you are a true believer. You don't need logic. that's why you never use it. You just believe what you want to believe.
Why did he kill so many people? why did he spend so much on weapons? especially of the nuclear sort? Why does he supply bombs to the Saudis? Wjy does he impose a blockade on Yemen so innocent people are starvinig to death? Why does he supply ISIS with money and weapons? Why has social assistance to the poor dropped in his time?

I know, teacher. I know. Look at my hand.........All that was actually done by a white Republican disguised as him.
 
Oh - and I don't live in his shoes. And you don't live in his shoes. But you can tell it's not all his fault whille I, lacking
your mystic instincts, can't tell.
 
It's not all his fault because he's not a one man show. He's not a dictator, and there was a lot of obstructing of his plans going on. You know that, too. We don't know when at what point and with who involved lead him to some of the worst decisions...I truly don't believe those were his plans, anything he "hoped" to do before he took office. I really don't. You can think me naive if you want. I really don't believe he's as bad as Trump would be. I believe really dirty politics subverted what would've been good progress. I think it's more likely that Obama wanted to do a good honest job and that was pounced on as a weakness by those who enjoy playing dirty - domestically and abroad.. Obama the leftist softie - "let's pretend to be nice and back him into a corner and we can con him and impose our own agendas"...imo. What about digging from the other side...the "how Obama got screwed" side? I'm sure there are plenty of details to uncover.
 
i believe that Obama is really a Chinese woman, and his 'wife' is a Turkishh professional wrestler. And I can prove that better than you can prove anything you have said.
You believe what you want to believe. i don't think you're naive. I think you simply refuse to believe anything your don't want to believe.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
i believe that Obama is really a Chinese woman, and his 'wife' is a Turkishh professional wrestler. And I can prove that better than you can prove anything you have said.
You believe what you want to believe. i don't think you're naive. I think you simply refuse to believe anything your don't want to believe.
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I just gave you proof of the GOP's plan to obstruct Obama on 'everything'. That was the GOP's modus operandi from the beginning.
 
Kimmio - that is every opposition party's modus operandi.
But you'll ignore that, too, and go on believing whatever you want to believe.
Did the GOP force Obama to starve the people of Yemen and to sell the Saudis bombs to kill them. Did the GOT order all those murderous drone strikes? Did the GOP order the bombing of Syria and Libya? Did the GOP build nuclear missle sites on the Russian border?
I'll bet they did. The GOP is really sneaky, not like all those Democrat Christians.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
i believe that Obama is really a Chinese woman, and his 'wife' is a Turkishh professional wrestler. And I can prove that better than you can prove anything you have said.
You believe what you want to believe. i don't think you're naive. I think you simply refuse to believe anything your don't want to believe.
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I'm sure I'll be dumped on for saying this. But I believe Obama is a person of better character than Trump, and possibly Clinton - I believe his election platform was truly reprentitive of his ideals before taking office. I believe he is probably hugely conflicted over the worst things that happened on his watch. How do I know? I don't. It's intuition. It's the way he carries himself, his eyes and facial expressions - the aging that happened in 8 years is that of someone who worried, made hard decisions, and has a conscience - and, importantly but ignored, the way he and Michelle have raised their kids (vs. the Trumps and even Chelsea Clinton) - as normally as possible - and the way kids trust him and feel calm around him - he likes kids and wants them to have a future - shows his character. Stupid non-political human being stuff, I know.
 
Oh, I know what you mean. I often see people just for a minute or so at a time on TV, and just by looking at the way they stand, I can tell their character.
I remember his election platform well, too. I remember it because most of his platform was "We can do it."
I was on CBC radio just the day after he said that - and that was the point at which I said he was going to be a disaster as a president.
How do you find Trudeau? Intellectual? Brilliant leader? Friend of the working class?
hmmmm. Obama likes kids......there are laws about that.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
Kimmio - that is every opposition party's modus operandi.
But you'll ignore that, too, and go on believing whatever you want to believe.
Did the GOP force Obama to starve the people of Yemen and to sell the Saudis bombs to kill them. Did the GOT order all those murderous drone strikes? Did the GOP order the bombing of Syria and Libya? Did the GOP build nuclear missle sites on the Russian border?
I'll bet they did. The GOP is really sneaky, not like all those Democrat Christians.
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They probably condoned every move (moves that hawkish generals were pressing for?) he opposed, and opposed every anti-war measure he condoned. I would not be surprised.

Completely obstructing the other side - making a party policy of it just for the sake of it, always, is not what they are supposed to do. They are supposed to oppose, on valid grounds making a valid case, things that deserve scrutiny, but not simply obstruct everything. Obama went in wanting to get cooperative work done on his ideas - got nothing but blocked time after time. Even on things GOPs previously approved of as long as one of their own presented it. That should've been enough to get their approval - but no -they had to pretend that since Obama favoured an idea it was all of a sudden a bad one just because of Obama.
 
The long con. It would've been predictable for him to do this a long time ago. Even on his Twitter feed some of his 'fans' have been begging him to apologize to the Khans, reach out to African American voters, etc. meanwhile those who won't vote for him already see he's playing a con game. They don't know what it is exactly except that it's a con game and they're not going to believe him. It's hard to believe or respect anyone with heart and intellect who'd fall for this - that he's a new man overnight now that he's hired the Fox Breitbart team. Whatever. When a few days ago he said he is who he is and doesn't want to change. Believe that!

I have a feeling there's more of the old Trump before November. I could be wrong.
 
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