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chansen said:
Conspiracy theorists such as yourself have zero positive effect.
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You do have your head deep in the sand, that's why the US government is trying to shut up meida that is not main stream and influenced by big corporate


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You're a distraction, because your fears are rooted in ignorance and stupidity. I list off a bunch of things to actually be concerned about, and you ignore them. If anything, big pharma loves you. You make it look like their opponents look crazy and stupid.

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dam you have alot of trust for big brother , you are part of the boge and love it
 
Good for you that you have so much faith in the status quo chansen. More than I. Talking to you it feels like (pointing out how I feel about these conversations) the world could collapse and you'd be waiting for proof that suits you. Let's wait for the peer review first, shall we? How often have we seen something come to light because people recognized something wasn't right and looked into it and their lives were made very difficult for it. Tobacco industry? So big pharma can be bastards for stuff we know about but not stuff that people are trying to point out?

I don't like to be a conspiracy theorist. I just gave UnDef crap for the same thing the other day because I don't want to be negative about the future (sorry undef) but it is discouraging how one track minded people can be and unless we look at things from different perspectives I don't feel good about the future for next generations. Big pharma, big industry - for all the good they do as much if not more harm in so many ways by dominating everything - even how we think.
 
Erin Brockovitch - there was one crazy relatively uneducated, low status, unrecognized person on a mission and she won. I know Hollywood capitalized on her story but she still won. She never would have if everyone had Chansen's criteria.
 
blackbelt1961 said:
You do have your head deep in the sand, that's why the US government is trying to shut up meida that is not main stream and influenced by big corporate
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No, they're not. They don't care. Stupid people have a right to say stupid things. Normally, I find it amusing. When it's about peoples' health and the development of new drugs and treatments, and the criticisms are so stupid and so ignorant, I'm far less amused.

Or, show us. That's the problem with throwing claims out there - someone is going to call you on them. Where is Canada or the US trying to "shut up meida that is not main stream?" For that matter, what have any of your conspiracy theorists exposed? Oh, please quote Alex Jones or some other popular nutcase. That'll make the debunking even easier, because it will be done for me.
 
chansen said:
No, they're not. They don't care. Stupid people have a right to say stupid things. Normally, I find it amusing. When it's about peoples' health and the development of new drugs and treatments, and the criticisms are so stupid and so ignorant, I'm far less amused.

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Kimmio said:
Erin Brockovitch - there was one crazy relatively uneducated, low status, unrecognized person on a mission and she won. I know Hollywood capitalized on her story but she still won. She never would have if everyone had Chansen's criteria.
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What is my criteria? What are you claiming I'm saying now? I don't trust you any more. Quote me on what my "criteria" is.

I don't remember the particulars of the story. She didn't, say, canvass the area and collect information, did she? She didn't aggregate that information and compare cancer rates in the area to the national average using statistics or anything like that, did she? She didn't have a hypothesis that cancer rates were elevated in the town and test that hypothesis with numbers, did she? Because that sounds an awful lot like "science", to me, and I know you don't trust science.
 
Problem is BB that's coming from RT and they are even more full of it than CNN. But it does point just how powerful, and irresponsible, the media can be when it's much about ratings - and it has a HUGE impact on our subconscious.
 
Kimmio said:
Problem is BB that's coming from RT and they are even more full of it than CNN. But it does point just how powerful, and irresponsible, the media can be when it's much about ratings - and it has a HUGE impact on our subconscious.
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its coming from RT but its Hillary speaking

shows you there mind set
 
blackbelt1961 said:
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Putin's network says that the US is losing the information war. Even they aren't saying that the US is trying to shut them down, or shut them up.

Again, to jog your memory:
chansen said:
Where is Canada or the US trying to "shut up meida that is not main stream?"
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That was what you claimed, spelling mistakes and all. Again, where is this happening?

Sucks when people don't just buy your bulls**t, doesn't it? This should remind you of trying to proselytize.
 
chansen said:
What is my criteria? What are you claiming I'm saying now? I don't trust you any more. Quote me on what my "criteria" is.

I don't remember the particulars of the story. She didn't, say, canvass the area and collect information, did she? She didn't aggregate that information and compare cancer rates in the area to the national average using statistics or anything like that, did she? She didn't have a hypothesis that cancer rates were elevated in the town and test that hypothesis with numbers, did she? Because that sounds an awful lot like "science", to me, and I know you don't trust science.
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She had people in her corner to help her get the information and do that. If everyone just said "you're just a stupid secretary and you're full of it. Where are the expert reports to confirm this?" (which plenty did at first) she might not have gotten anywhere. Both you, bb, and me want to see the world be a fairer place. I personally don't think the status quo will get us there - but who can change anything all by themselves? But is it not frustrating - the world is not working the way it is. Maybe between crazy ideas like BB's, mine, and logical minds like yours the world can look better. But not when "untested" ideas are stonewalled.
 
Kimmio said:
She had people in her corner to help her get the information and do that. If everyone just said "you're just a stupid secretary and you're full of it. Where are the expert reports to confirm this?" (which plenty did at first) she might not have gotten anywhere. Both you, bb, and me want to see the world be a fairer place. I personally don't think the status quo will get us there - but who can change anything all by themselves?
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What is my "criteria"?
 
chansen said:
Putin's network says that the US is losing the information war. Even they aren't saying that the US is trying to shut them down, or shut them up.

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That was what you claimed, spelling mistakes and all. Again, where is this happening?

Sucks when people don't just buy your bulls**t, doesn't it? This should remind you of trying to proselytize.
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Stop being such a fascist
 
"Reading people who have a more workable plan" - an example of your tendency to always default to the experts even if many regular joes could scream till they're blue in the face about what they know from experience, insight, and intuition. I guess that's anecdotal.
To have a more workable plan you have to admit there's a problem first and you won't unless an expert says so? What about just the reality that business dominates everything? Start there. Is that a positive reality? (oh sorry that's a broad statement with no expert proof - disqualified)
 
blackbelt1961 said:
If you need a good laugh just look at your character in the mirror
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That's all you've got? You throw claims of alternative media oppression and conspiracy theorists exposing scandals, and when questioned on those claims, all you've got is "fascist" and "if you need a good laugh, look in a mirror?"

I'm done here. Good night.
 
chansen said:
That's all you've got? You throw claims of alternative media oppression and conspiracy theorists exposing scandals, and when questioned on those claims, all you've got is "fascist" and "if you need a good laugh, look in a mirror?"

I'm done here. Good night.
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