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I have met ONE really good doctor, a GP- others are okay but he's the best I've ever met here who is truly interested in listening to his patients' insight into their own condition - not so much for diagnosis, but because he believes it's important to hear how what ever their condition is affects them and how they think about recovery and what might assist them - he's even open to natural treatments as long as the patient finds that they help. Even if they are placebos - the power of placebos can be a positive aid. If a person is positive about recovery and feeling supported and listened to, not chided, it makes a huge difference. He has had 45 min.long appointments, just talking with me. Unfortunately, he is now focused on research and teaching and is backing out of clinical practice.

And the doc who recommended homeopathy...arnica works. I have gone without it when I've gotten a bruise, and have used it..and I assure you that there's a difference... the healing time is cut down by using it. I don't know why. It's a plant based compound, and it works.
 
Kimmio said:
And the doc who recommended homeopathy...arnica works.
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Is it actually a homeopathic medication? Or is it one of those things where they call it homeopathic, but there's active ingredient, and if you diluted it down, it wouldn't be beneficial anymore?
 
Kimmio said:
Some homeopathy works...like arnica for inflammation and bruising. I had an English doctor trained in both conventional medicine and homeopathy suggest it to me when I got some sand or dust in my eye and the white of my eye was alarmingly blood red. It was a surface injury but the arnica did speed the healing. Subsequently, I bought topical arnica gel for bruising of the skin and it cuts healing time in half. Really. Sooths sore muscles, too. It's the only homeopathic one I really know about. That and Bach's rescue remedy for temporary anxiety relief...but I think that's because it's in a grain alcohol tincture! People give it to pets, too..
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Yes, some homeopathy works, even if it is just the placebo effect.

What we abjectively call the "placebo effect" is also known as psycho-spiritual or faith healing. "Your faith has healed you," Jesus was supposed to have said. I don't think this is any particular faith but faith in general. The healing effect it is rooted in the strong belief that this will effect a cure, and the cure is sometimes brought about by a powerful psychological or psycho-spiritual event that causes a flood of endorphins and other feel-good chemicals in our brain and body, and results in a feeling of profound wellbeing, which sometimes causes a spontaneous remission of whatever ails us. The remission can be temporary or permanent.
 
Hermann said:
Yes, some homeopathy works, even if it is just the placebo effect.

What we abjectively call the "placebo effect" is also known as psycho-spiritual or faith healing. "Your faith has healed you," Jesus was supposed to have said. I don't think this is any particular faith but faith in general. The healing effect it is rooted in the strong belief that this will effect a cure, and the cure is sometimes brought about by a powerful psychological or psycho-spiritual event that causes a flood of endorphins and other feel-good chemicals in our brain and body, and results in a feeling of profound wellbeing, which sometimes causes a spontaneous remission of whatever ails us. The remission can be temporary or permanent.
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I would access some alternative medicine expertise - through trained practitioners (instead of asking the staff at Whole Foods) - if I could afford it. Complimentary medicine (the interdisciplinary approach of combining conventional and traditional methods) is more popular here in BC I think (it being 'hippy' Cascadia and all ;) ). There are some pretty swanky clinics- like spas! I think only the rich and famous can afford them! Only the conventional medical aspect is covered on BC medical.
 
I think, from what I've read, in some parts of the world, in Europe, some naturopathic treatments are still considered part of conventional medicine and more respected - and at least doctors know about them. And I have noticed more studies about it are making it into mainstream medical journals - with serious consideration to the benefits. Also, in India.
 
It threatens the pharmaceutical business, though, if these things can simply be grown in your garden. I am aware that even plants can be poisonous or allergenic so it's best to be supervised by someone who knows how they work and interact together, and how they might interact with other drugs.
 
Kimmio said:
It's homeopathic and herbal. I took the homeopathic tablets (little under the tongue pellets) for the eyeball bruise, and it worked. It cleared it up quickly. That's why I remembered it later when buying the gel for skin bruising. And I have taken the tablets again for inflammation and they do help. But the ointment/ gel works better.

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/arnica
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Are you sure your eyeball balm is homeopathic and not naturopathic?
 
ChemGal said:
Is it actually a homeopathic medication? Or is it one of those things where they call it homeopathic, but there's active ingredient, and if you diluted it down, it wouldn't be beneficial anymore?
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By what links Kimmio has given me, it looks like the tablets are listed as '30X' dilution (which can mean that no molecules of the original substance remains at all)

Here's the info for the Hyland's Arnica Tablets (with an actual unfolded photo of the box)

I note the active ingredients for the tablets "Arnica Montana 30X HPUS" and the Inactive Ingredients Acacia Gum & Lactose N.F. (i wonder if they are homeopathic as well?)

I also note the warnings on the box & feel sorry for the doctor who has to treat an unconscious user of this stuff -- all that will show up on the toxscreens are lactose & Acacia gum...

Omg, I just thought of something; homeopathic POISONS! the ultimate assassination tool...

Reminds me of this classic scene

 
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I know it works (for me) because I've used it and it worked. There are, of course, competing sources of information out there. I think that is about $$. We're not privy to the business side of things, generally, but it does exist. The tablets help! I don't know why. But if you take them insistent that they won't - maybe they won't. I could take aspirin for a headache but if I still really wanted to have a headache I probably would still have a headache.

If you are not generally allergic to plant based stuff, try the gel next time you have a bruise or muscle strain and see for yourself. It soothes without being numbing anesthetic or mentholated. Really quite helpful. It really does help bruises go away fast, too.
 
@Inannawhimsey You can get tablets in different dilutions but, yes, I think it was the 30c ones that I took. I can't remember. Whole Foods has a whole wall shelf of homeopathic tablets with descriptions. They're fun to read. They'd probably help me because I want to believe they help - for minor things of course.

And have a look at Dr.Bach...lots of fun. He really perturbs the medical science types ;) but again, I have used rescue remedy and it helped (me) - for occassional use. It doesn't work after awhile if you use it everyday (??)
http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/remedies.htm

I have a friend who carries it in her purse at all times. She's a midwife, and I learned about various natural stuff from her...and her sister is a doctor with Doctors Without Borders and she is also kind of 'hippy' like and when my friend and I were roommates her sister stayed with us and she was quite into herbal cosmetics...not all medical people (who have travelled to small communities around the world) are opposed to all traditional healing. They respect the cultures of the people they meet - and placebos, if they are such - can powerfully influence the mind, as Hermann suggested.
 
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neet -- 30 C is even more dilute, and, according to homopaths, even more 'potent'? -- beyond the 'no active ingredients' of 30X

 
Maybe the idea is that the tiny little bit triggers the immune response? Maybe too much just overpowers it?

Immunizations are 'dead' viruses. Reminds me of the same sort of idea. I am no scientist though.
 
Immunizations contain active ingredients though. According to homeopathy, you would get a stronger effect if you took 1/2 a tablet.
 
Kimmio said:
I think, from what I've read, in some parts of the world, in Europe, some naturopathic treatments are still considered part of conventional medicine and more respected - and at least doctors know about them. And I have noticed more studies about it are making it into mainstream medical journals - with serious consideration to the benefits. Also, in India.
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Yes, naturopathy is popular in Germany, and some of it is even covered by their government subsidized medicare.

I had good experience with naturopathic treatment here in Canada, but had to pay for it out of pocket. My naturopath diagnosed an ailing liver, just by feeling the "five Chinese pulses," years before I was officially diagnosed with Hep C.
 
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