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Does the bible say to avoid id'll icons as institutional and search for the incarnate nature?

Is that pure abstraction?
 
Women having been trying to get equality with men since the Fall in the Garden ------God created Man first ---put man in charge ----then He created woman from Man's DNA ----to be a support for the man a helper ---not a ruler -----then woman was week and bit the bait the was offered to her from the god of this world Satan and then that wasn't enough she then went to the head ruler and offered him the very thing that she was told not to take and then Man who was the 1st Jesus failed to obey His Father and so all who disobeyed had to be punished -------The woman was equal to the man in the garden in God's eyes -----there was no rivalry between the 2 ------

The woman then was punished for her disobedience according to scripture -----this was part of her punishment -------Genesis 3 :16 ----New Living Translation
Then he said to the woman, "I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you."

So women will never have equality with man ----The first woman screwed up and brought the curse on all women --------pain in pregnancy and a desire to be equal to man -----it will stick till we are in the new earth where all God's Children will be equal and free from what we have now on this earth -----

The Man in the video stated -----It is not Human Nature that is the problem ----well I disagree with that -----it is all about the fall of man and the human nature which is corrupted from the time of conception --------Women can fight all they want to and will gain some recognition here in this world but it will not be without great struggle ---Satan loves the struggle between the sexes ---he laps that up cause it keep the woman in chains and shackles and away from God ------having women angered and furious and trying to gain equality by forming feminist groups and the like is playing right into the god of this world's hands ------

Women are fighting and will always be fighting for equality with men but they will never have full equality -----
 
unsafe said:
Women having been trying to get equality with men since the Fall in the Garden ------God created Man first ---put man in charge ----then He created woman from Man's DNA ----to be a support for the man a helper ---not a ruler -----then woman was week and bit the bait the was offered to her from the god of this world Satan and then that wasn't enough she then went to the head ruler and offered him the very thing that she was told not to take and then Man who was the 1st Jesus failed to obey His Father and so all who disobeyed had to be punished -------The woman was equal to the man in the garden in God's eyes -----there was no rivalry between the 2 ------

The woman then was punished for her disobedience according to scripture -----this was part of her punishment -------Genesis 3 :16 ----New Living Translation
Then he said to the woman, "I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you."

So women will never have equality with man ----The first woman screwed up and brought the curse on all women --------pain in pregnancy and a desire to be equal to man -----it will stick till we are in the new earth where all God's Children will be equal and free from what we have now on this earth -----

The Man in the video stated -----It is not Human Nature that is the problem ----well I disagree with that -----it is all about the fall of man and the human nature which is corrupted from the time of conception --------Women can fight all they want to and will gain some recognition here in this world but it will not be without great struggle ---Satan loves the struggle between the sexes ---he laps that up cause it keep the woman in chains and shackles and away from God ------having women angered and furious and trying to gain equality by forming feminist groups and the like is playing right into the god of this world's hands ------

Women are fighting and will always be fighting for equality with men but they will never have full equality -----
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Until they too discover a hidden sexuality that sets eM free as angelic hosts. In some traditional oppressions this sexuality is driven so deep they never escape the suppressive urge that was a given or gratis until beat down my the dark force of UV that's the Greek Goddesses expression for a' m'n without ... and that's where some retain them ... a' la san ...
 
unsafe said:
Women having been trying to get equality with men since the Fall in the Garden ------God created Man first ---put man in charge ----then He created woman from Man's DNA ----to be a support for the man a helper ---not a ruler -----then woman was week and bit the bait the was offered to her from the god of this world Satan and then that wasn't enough she then went to the head ruler and offered him the very thing that she was told not to take and then Man who was the 1st Jesus failed to obey His Father and so all who disobeyed had to be punished -------The woman was equal to the man in the garden in God's eyes -----there was no rivalry between the 2 ------

The woman then was punished for her disobedience according to scripture -----this was part of her punishment -------Genesis 3 :16 ----New Living Translation
Then he said to the woman, "I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you."

So women will never have equality with man ----The first woman screwed up and brought the curse on all women --------pain in pregnancy and a desire to be equal to man -----it will stick till we are in the new earth where all God's Children will be equal and free from what we have now on this earth -----

The Man in the video stated -----It is not Human Nature that is the problem ----well I disagree with that -----it is all about the fall of man and the human nature which is corrupted from the time of conception --------Women can fight all they want to and will gain some recognition here in this world but it will not be without great struggle ---Satan loves the struggle between the sexes ---he laps that up cause it keep the woman in chains and shackles and away from God ------having women angered and furious and trying to gain equality by forming feminist groups and the like is playing right into the god of this world's hands ------

Women are fighting and will always be fighting for equality with men but they will never have full equality -----
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A result of the Fall was, as you posted unsafe, "And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you."

The desire of husbands to rule over wives, and men in general to rule over women, stems from sinful human nature.

Thankfully, God gives us newness of life and a part of that newness should be a hunger for equality. Through his work on the cross, Christ broke down the dividing wall. Let's live into that new reality.

We need not wait until the new Earth comes, or until we all get to Heaven.
 
Pr.jae

I am commenting on the videos provided ------the world is corrupt male dominance 1.000 years ago in Rome -----you have the Holy Spirit ---we are talking the world today and the movements going on with women who have been fighting for equality with men in this world ---not individual

I agree with your statement ----Thankfully, God gives us newness of life and a part of that newness should be a hunger for equality. Through his work on the cross, Christ broke down the dividing wall. Let's live into that new reality. ----

But not all the world has reconnected to God -----if all the women have reconnected to God then they wouldn't be fighting for equality as they would understand that they are equal spiritually with men -----Women are fighting now for equality with men and they will continue to do so ---you will always have women's equality movements until Jesus returns ------this is my opinion
 
unsafe said:
Women having been trying to get equality with men since the Fall in the Garden ------God created Man first ---put man in charge ----then He created woman from Man's DNA ----to be a support for the man a helper ---not a ruler -----then woman was week and bit the bait the was offered to her from the god of this world Satan and then that wasn't enough she then went to the head ruler and offered him the very thing that she was told not to take and then Man who was the 1st Jesus failed to obey His Father and so all who disobeyed had to be punished -------The woman was equal to the man in the garden in God's eyes -----there was no rivalry between the 2 ------

The woman then was punished for her disobedience according to scripture -----this was part of her punishment -------Genesis 3 :16 ----New Living Translation
Then he said to the woman, "I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you."

So women will never have equality with man ----The first woman screwed up and brought the curse on all women --------pain in pregnancy and a desire to be equal to man -----it will stick till we are in the new earth where all God's Children will be equal and free from what we have now on this earth -----

The Man in the video stated -----It is not Human Nature that is the problem ----well I disagree with that -----it is all about the fall of man and the human nature which is corrupted from the time of conception --------Women can fight all they want to and will gain some recognition here in this world but it will not be without great struggle ---Satan loves the struggle between the sexes ---he laps that up cause it keep the woman in chains and shackles and away from God ------having women angered and furious and trying to gain equality by forming feminist groups and the like is playing right into the god of this world's hands ------

Women are fighting and will always be fighting for equality with men but they will never have full equality -----
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I am tempted to cross-post this to the thread on Male Privilege because only in an atmosphere of male privilege could a theology like this continue to exist.:rolleyes:
 
Do girls like to get a man to control them so they feel better about doing what mum and dad didn't explain very well as a sect you'aL gravitas ...?

Such is the coming out ceremony that is a state of chaos generally so she may attract who we blindly didn't desire? De Bellas Syndrome!
 
....good grief Charlie Brown....
I am thinking of processing this thread through a few glasses of wine.....
Right now I find a number of the posts troubling and upsetting so I will wait until I calm down to post my thoughts.
 
RitaTG said:
....good grief Charlie Brown....
I am thinking of processing this thread through a few glasses of wine.....
Right now I find a number of the posts troubling and upsetting so I will wait until I calm down to post my thoughts.
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Does cause uncertainty in what we believe we know to be true when we aren't even close ...

Is lack of knowledge iconic to the ideal of the masses not knowing much? Is there an advantage to the patriarchy? Could the broad-based well of unknowns mess up this plan? ... thus the toasting of Charli company ... the toasted ones? I am not allowed to extrapolate on this by law of confinement of thoughts ... a religious operation ...

I believe in EQUIS ... a scheme to educate the unknowing and unknown by elites in wealth and power ... Julian sorts?
 
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Mendalla said:
Fixed yer typo. There's no way wine will help with that.:cool:
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The Scottish cast this in the initial place of Boudicca ... the female broad-based well ... comparing to psyche balances? Is that deep enough ...:ROFLMAO: ...

Tis a role to be plaed ...
 
RitaTG said:
Thank you for fixing my typo :)
Indeed a stronger spirit would be beneficial :)
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The there are T total errs ... who won't go near anything resembling a ghost, spirit or essence ... they are guided by rule alone ... they fear thinking?
 
unsafe said:
pain in pregnancy and a desire to be equal to man -----it will stick till we are in the new earth where all God's Children will be equal and free from what we have now on this earth
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Since you seem to be taking this thing, women's pain during birth, as an empirical fact and that it is stated as such in your bibble & the reason why it happens...

Here's the Truth -- not all women have pain during childbirth -- not all women even experience the same pain. And for those who do feel pain uncomfortable enough for them, there are drugs. Did you know this?

Just some musings for you to consider
 
Inannawhimsey said:
Since you seem to be taking this thing, women's pain during birth, as an empirical fact and that it is stated as such in your bibble & the reason why it happens...

Here's the Truth -- not all women have pain during childbirth -- not all women even experience the same pain. And for those who do feel pain uncomfortable enough for them, there are drugs. Did you know this?

Just some musings for you to consider
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So true ... my wife popped out to daughters so easily it was amazing to some and astounded others ... especially to an acquaintance in delivery that was stuck there for 36+ hours ... she looked so bad when they wheeled her by me I didn't recognize her ... what some women will do for continuance ....
 
It is upsetting ---the whole fall is upsetting ------it wasn't just Eve who screwed up ---Man screwed up bigger than Eve and put us all in the same boat ----so Adam's fall was much worse than Eve's -----we are all born now under the curse and doomed both male and female unless we reconnect to our Spiritual Father through His Son who died to free us from this curse from birth ----and we didn't do anything to be cursed ---- Adam and Eve did -----we have to pay the price --is that fair ------you decide ------Thank God there is a way out ------Praise Jesus for that -----:)
 
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