Word vs Text vs Visual

[Mendalla]

To flourish, the UCCan denomination should pay for the creation of video collections that key their themes to the humnal.
and should provide collections of dramatic movie clips thematically keyed to the lectionary texts.

Someone still needs to put that all together in a useful, aesthetic way into a slide deck for each service. The UCCan is not, last I checked, in the business of doing canned services and I doubt most ministers and other worship leaders would appreciate them doing so.

And then there's ...

ANd who take care of any copyright issues?

If the UCCan does it, they should also be set up as a clearinghouse for the copyright. Which require a whole new office, likely.

However, a better approach might be for the churches that have the staff and skillset for doing this to just pay for Shutterstock or similar themselves and then select from that library. There are some decent libraries that are free (usually using some form of Creative Commons license) but the selection is not always as good as with the big paid ones.

 

[Mystic]

When it comes to showing clips of old movies, there are a few considerations related to copyright fees:

1. Public Domain Films: Some films have entered the public domain, which means they are no longer under copyright protection. The Library of Congress offers a collection of public domain films from the National Film Registry. These films are free to use and reuse. You can explore this collection for relevant clips1.
2. Copyrighted Films: For films that are still under copyright, you’ll need to obtain a public performance license to show clips publicly. The cost varies, but it’s generally more affordable than what commercial cinemas pay. Expect to pay several hundred dollars, especially for recent movies2.
3. Copyright Registration: If you’re creating your own content or using clips in a specific context (e.g., a documentary), consider copyright registration. The fees for electronic registration range from $45 to $65, while paper filing costs $125. Renewal claims and restored copyright claims typically range from $100 to $1253.

Remember to check the specific copyright status of the films you’re interested in, and consult legal advice if needed.
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Copyright Guidelines for Showing Movies and Other Audiovisual Works​

https://www.wlu.edu/general-counsel/answer-center/copyright-and-intellectual-property/copyright-guidelines-for-showing-movies-and-other-audiovisual-works
In most cases, you will be eligible for a "non-theatrical" public performance license, which is considerably cheaper than what a commercial cinema must pay. Still, the cost is likely to be at least several hundred dollars, especially for the most recent movies.

 

[Luce NDs]

Might it be easier to create something anonymous as if done all by self? Then some authority would come ... and the rest is history the repeated takings ... for those that can't know where it came from (foregone) but will claim to! Consider all those that claim the bible as ultimate and never read it from the ends ... that is to say cover to cover ... covered? Initially something has to be open to read into it ...

Can you tabulate all those that declare they cannot read yet claim to be familiar with great word of expectations ... on the condition that you grasp what was previously closed! National shut down ... because of hubris ... hollow hope? One has to trust the word of some oratorical ... these tend to swell ... until bussed out of here ... on the breath of what lies there ... flatlining ...

 

[GordW]

When it comes to showing clips of old movies, there are a few considerations related to copyright fees:

1. Public Domain Films: Some films have entered the public domain, which means they are no longer under copyright protection. The Library of Congress offers a collection of public domain films from the National Film Registry. These films are free to use and reuse. You can explore this collection for relevant clips1.
2. Copyrighted Films: For films that are still under copyright, you’ll need to obtain a public performance license to show clips publicly. The cost varies, but it’s generally more affordable than what commercial cinemas pay. Expect to pay several hundred dollars, especially for recent movies2.
3. Copyright Registration: If you’re creating your own content or using clips in a specific context (e.g., a documentary), consider copyright registration. The fees for electronic registration range from $45 to $65, while paper filing costs $125. Renewal claims and restored copyright claims typically range from $100 to $1253.

Remember to check the specific copyright status of the films you’re interested in, and consult legal advice if needed.
Learn more
1loc.gov2wlu.edu3dacast.com4blog.filmtrack.c

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Copyright Guidelines for Showing Movies and Other Audiovisual Works​

Copyright Guidelines for Showing Movies and Other Audiovisual Works : Washington and Lee University
In most cases, you will be eligible for a "non-theatrical" public performance license, which is considerably cheaper than what a commercial cinema must pay. Still, the cost is likely to be at least several hundred dollars, especially for the most recent movies.

ANd most congregations do not have the time or money to do this on a periodic, much less a regular, basis. ALso, if someone in Canada is planning to do something like this make sure you check out Canadian law and regulations, it is not always the same as in the US.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Berserk, you are clueless to Canadian copyriight law, music licensing costs, never mind licensing for movie clips. If you are going to livestream, you have to be clean as a whistle at all times.

We keep the music completely clean. All attributed, and we have to have three copyright subscriptions.

Sometimes there's artwork slides to go with special presentations. If it's not public domain, we don't use it.

Our rev (one plus fill-in summer, etc) generally riffs off the lectionary. If she's got the odd visual, she'll show it, but she's a well prepped, odd joke, good story or two, 10-15 minute sermon. Doesn't need a lot of Hollywood clips, although we never get a sermon without a Walter Brueggeman idea or so.

Finally, screens, most important is that we are responsive to ALL the needs. I can't read the screens very well, most of the time, but I can read the bulletin, so I suffer if the responsive stuff is not printed in the bulletin. And those who rely on the screens to read need there to be perfect sight lines, and very well trained slide preparers, to make sure the fonts and contrasts are appropriate. And what clues do we provide for the illiterate?

 

[Luce NDs]

One can bet there will not be much collaboration and entanglement as that would out the desire to succeed in putting those close by ... down!

That's success systematic as raised in theological worries of losing it ... so it departs in essence ... a nobbae end? Probably warts ... indicative of djinns within the vessel ... subtle thing!

 

[jimkenney12]

I started providing copies of my story and message at the start of each service. They are all small congregations so easy to do.

 

[Mystic]

n Canada, churches can legally show movie clips during ministry activities by obtaining a Church Video Licence. Here are some details:

1. Church Video Licence (CVLI): This license provides legal coverage for showing movies and scenes during various church activities, including:
   • Church Movie Nights: You can hold free film screenings, like “Faith in Film Fridays,” where popular films explore issues of faith and spirituality.
   • Children’s Ministry: Use clips to supplement and enhance children’s curriculum and activities.
   • Youth Events: Show relevant movies or scenes during youth gatherings.

 

[Mystic]

IMO, inexpensive creative use of movie clips in sermons is the best hope for dealing with the steep decline in UCCan attendance.
Good preaching illustrates app[licaitons throjugh memorable story telling, for which the right movie clips can be ideal.

 

[Redbaron]

Has this worked in other churches in steep decline?

 

[Mystic]

Yes, for exaanple, at a dying UMC church in Buffalo down the road from a UCC church I pastored.
Of course, their hiring of a dynamic pastor also helped.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Good preaching illustrates app[licaitons throjugh memorable story telling

Agreed, and video clips are an unnecessary frill for a well-delivered sermon. We need our roof fixed way more than we need to spend another $200 per year for licensing that we would make very limited use of. (Of course, an eventual change in ministry might make this sort of visual support more necessary, should we hire someone who is less of a liturgical magician). And our congregation is growing, albeit not quickly.

 

[Mendalla]

Yes, for exaanple, at a dying UMC church in Buffalo down the road from a UCC church I pastored.
Of course, their hiring of a dynamic pastor also helped.

I suspect the dynamic pastor helped more. Slide decks and videos should be used as a support for a quality presenter, not a crutch for a poor one.

 

[Luce NDs]

Mire story telling ... but ... alas ... many would rather the "lie" as more emotionally binding! Once established you have to stick with it ...

 

[Waterfall]

Sigh.....

 

[Luce NDs]

Some say that the parable is a MS Stick thing of psyche ... and psyche is out there ... in the great beyond as a greater mine d' ...

Thus hollow columns ... canes ... rheids ... mentally overwhelming if you can't open up ... encased?