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One time at the beginning of a course I was taking the facilitator divided us into two groups and gave each group a flip chart with a blank paper. One group was told to quickly write down all the names of men they could remember from the Bible. The other group was asked to write the names of women.

After about ten minutes the two groups were asked bring their flip charts to the front of the room. The chart with men's names was covered from Adam to Zepheniah (spelling didn't matter). Names were written all over it - squeezed on the margins. The chart with the women's names had a dozen or so - Eve, Mary, then ... Sarah ... Emily (no cross that off) ... Rachel, Jezabel. During the course we learned many more women's names and their contributions - even though they seem to be down-played in the Bible. Some women who played significant roles - like the Samaritan woman at the well - are not even named.

Another time, another church group - we put on a play about the women of the Bible. Various women acted out different roles - Leah and Rachel, Martha and Mary. And off to the side, from the balcony, I unrolled a scroll and let it drape down to the floor below as I read off the names of the many other women in the Bible - the names we forget - Adah, Abinoam, Basemath, Bilhah, Chloe, Maacah, Damaris, to Zilpah and Zipporah.

They may not be prominent, but there are women in the Bible - and they have a voice.
 
In one philosophy the Ephraim of mind is the script ... and a story in ancient understanding has a female genre attached ... but this goes unnoticed by those that didn't wish to be aware of classical wisdom --- Had assah! Leading to a cheeky following ...

Were the cheeks to turn as in Caduceus? Isn't that a wee bit two-faced or just fastidious of M-eis? Some rich and powerful types would turn this into fascism! On the face of it there's something deeper ... as derived from the Latin term eD'mism ... referring to subtle or underlying things like under dogma ... the lesser power?

One may have to dissociate and non-destructively disseminate a pile of word to draw that out personally! Publically it is solely misunderstood as such things are not taught to the community at large. In time the concept grows increasingly misleading as a foggy intelligence ... or a mystified emotional state of the paradigm.

Have you ever wondered why leaders wonder about the spirit of the community and not the soul of the community? The sole thing was eliminated as soma ... and thus became somnolent and few have interest in the numbed or numinous state of the public ... completely disillusioned by extremism in leaders!
 
Such is an eli mine 8'd situation like psyche ... chi's really Big Sur that looks over your shoulder ... but you are unconscious to this observation ... allowing mental distance in the void about what is rational and irrational!

Did you know Eli is an old word for light ... which we derive Elise from? Mudder of God where did that dirt come from? Celestial fallout or cereous fluid ... as a neural metaphor! Coolant for the emotional state? That's kohl ... dark and deep!
 
For me, the more important question to ask is:

How many words of the bible were written by women?

Answer: 0

This makes the research irrelevant because no male author can substitute for the genuine feminine voice.
 
To my knowledge, there has not been any conclusive evidence or accepted scholarship to suggest that any women contributed to writing the canonical bible. Research also indicates that 2000-3000 years ago when the scriptures were written, a very small percentage of people were literate, and of those even fewer would be female.

Near Eastern archaeologist & professor William Dever puts it this way:
"Women were, in the words of the distinguished ethnographer Clifford Geertz, "the people without a history" - that is, without a written account that survives. Women have not left us their Bible. They, together with other disenfranchised and marginalized groups in ancient Israel, have become "invisible" - except in the archaeological record, where there has been no one to edit them out."
 
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Although we have no proof of who wrote much of the Bible - despite disputed claims that Moses wrote the first five books and Paul probably wrote some of the epistles attributed to him - it seems likely that men wrote much of the Bible. I have heard that women may have written parts - perhaps some of the psalms, parts of Isaiah, parts of Hosea (some very feminine imagery there) and the New Testament book of Hebrews.
 
The under word in the bible is an oppressed concept ... the burial of psyche ... a Greek Goddess or the underworld or under spun so that mortals could experience emotional over-spin ... or have you noticed that tunnel with a necking effect ... could lead to a trappist or other Nous!

Delightfull word of myth is like that when you see the adept to it! Sort of spooky like that brush with the unconscious psyche during the night ... that's Jayne 'ere ... sort of a blackout or other obscure sensation like being separated from your thoughts ... a universal screwup is common cause ... Cos? Translate as a light power of lifted thoughts when you are relieved of eM!

Some people use various materials to cause sedations of such sensations as conceptualizing ...
 
Oui said:
For me, the more important question to ask is:

How many words of the bible were written by women?

Answer: 0

This makes the research irrelevant because no male author can substitute for the genuine feminine voice.
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and why is this so important? i mean since when has Truth been based on gender?
 
blackbelt1961 said:
and why is this so important? i mean since when has Truth been based on gender?
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“...this is the oppressor’s language.... yet I need it to talk to you” (Adrienne Rich). Male authors cannot truly speak for women, its not genuine.

Since only men have "received" it, written it, edited it, developed it & taught it. To me, this is not monotheism, its male monotheism with a male deity, and it is the most important indication that the texts are totally man made-up. The voice of a full 50% of the population is 100% missing.

I think this includes other male monotheistic traditions, including Judaism and Islam.

Surely, the Creator of the Universe could find a way to be inclusive?
 
Oui said:
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“...this is the oppressor’s language.... yet I need it to talk to you” (Adrienne Rich). Male authors cannot truly speak for women, its not genuine.

Since only men have "received" it, written it, edited it, developed it & taught it. To me, this is not monotheism, its male monotheism with a male deity, and it is the most important indication that the texts are totally man made-up. The voice of a full 50% of the population is 100% missing.

I think this includes other male monotheistic traditions, including Judaism and Islam.

Surely, the Creator of the Universe could find a way to be inclusive?
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Even if none of the authors were women (hypothetically speaking), how would that indicate that the text was not divinely inspired?
 
I think anyone can be divinely inspired, but for some reason, women's inspiration was excluded from the entire hundreds of years process of writing, editing, & developing the texts.
 
Oui said:
I think anyone can be divinely inspired, but for some reason, women's inspiration was excluded from the entire hundreds of years process of writing, editing, & developing the texts.
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If it was God's sovereign will to bring about his divinely inspired Scripture using only male human authors, would that be okay with you?
 
Oui said:
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“...this is the oppressor’s language.... yet I need it to talk to you” (Adrienne Rich). Male authors cannot truly speak for women, its not genuine.
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the the purpose of the male prophets of scripture was to convey Gods words both to men and women equally, why you thing a man, or a woman cannot speak spiritual truth based on gender is beyond reason


Since only men have "received" it, written it, edited it, developed it & taught it.
To me, this is not monotheism, its male monotheism with a male deity, and it is the most important indication that the texts are totally man made-up. The voice of a full 50% of the population is 100% missing.
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[FONT=Open Sans, sans-serif]its interesting to note that these men have reveled through prophesy that God is both male and female, not in gender but in spirit ,God is portrayed via female images and metaphors by men.

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Surely, the Creator of the Universe could find a way to be inclusive?
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yes He did, God Created you
 
Understanding the creation in Genesis give the reason why male is more predominate in God's Book -----He created Adam and breathed his breath into Adam and gave man the responsibility of this planet ---Eve was created from Adam's DNA ---woman was created to be a helper to man ----to support the man -----it is Women who feel inferior who are the ones who get upset about the Bible being male dominate -----Women need to stop being hung up on who tops who in the Bible and all need to start doing what God who is neither male or female but is Spirit says to do---- put your faith into action and get the results that it says you will get ----- whoever does this will be superior to all others be it male or female as God is not a respecter of persons but His word which works -----And I can say that because I am a Female and by doing what God's word tells me to do I have be successful in my life -----Women are important in God's eyes and has used women to do great things in His word ---read about Deborah in Judges ----
 
Creation made man stronger ... so he could experience a woman bringing him to his knees over nothing ... the void!

What a humbling experience to detract man from the something ... to losing it .. the ability to carry out the business of war!

From an outcast position ... this is funny ... that perspective from beyond being sucked in by physical emotions ... onto the field of the dead of knight ... where Freud warned men about oppression of half their being ... this goes on in the becoming story!

This vacuous states define the ethereal being ... thin Ayres?
 
Why, in the course of divinely inspiring a religion, could God not have divinely inspired his people to educate their girls and treat them as more than just breeders?

We now know that the key to raising families out of poverty is to empower the girls. What groups like "Because I Am A Girl" can't say out loud, is that a lot of their work is changing attitudes that are based in religion.

Even in this thread, we see men telling women that the claim that God created them should be enough. It's not tone deafness, but gender deafness. If you can't hear the condescension in that, then I doubt you ever will.

It is to the credit of women that most religions have been invented by men. It is to the credit of men that they are leaving religion faster than women.
 
chansen said:
Why, in the course of divinely inspiring a religion, could God not have divinely inspired his people to educate their girls and treat them as more than just breeders?
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actually God did, for one, the ten commandments and to by example in Christ

We now know that the key to raising families out of poverty is to empower the girls. What groups like "Because I Am A Girl" can't say out loud, is that a lot of their work is changing attitudes that are based in religion.
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you take the words right our of Philippians 4:13 's mouth :)

For I can do everything through Christ, who gives me strength.


Even in this thread, we see men telling women that the claim that God created them should be enough. It's not tone deafness, but gender deafness. If you can't hear the condescension in that, then I doubt you ever will.
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actually that is not the claim, the question was ask , The Creator can be more inclusive and the answer was , God created you.
is that not inclusive in Gods Love , by giving Life , saving life then giving eternity to that life which God Loves?

It is to the credit of women that most religions have been invented by men. It is to the credit of men that they are leaving religion faster than women.
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personal opinion does not account for the truth of the whole
 
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