Where is your faith at?

[Luce NDs]

*mic drop*

Yep, Christian faith is really doing you a solid.

Like a bung in an insecure barrel ... a loose Tun? They were dangerous on old wooden wessels ... floaters out of Nordic countries ... some folk have difficulty with change, learning and education ... just seizing it in a fixed light ... very dark in the temple ... lighter on the outside ...

Did you know that a Tun was like a Don in some traditions ... much better if iron-bound to provide metallic restrictions ... not good to have wandering around below deck ... alien horizons? Complexity baffles the simple and confines them in insecurity ,,, yet a state leading to much trolling of the alternate side. Some alternates always claim the doppelganger is the scam (a lying function) to get the heat off themselves because ... well it is just disturbing to them to admit they are wrong or even might be ...

Its just the way they are and you cannot change them because they are stoned (high) on power ... they believe they are powerful and cannot accept anything else. Even God the word indicated against power as Jude ... but if dedicated to misunderstanding ... guess what? Logic fails in the lower tiers of support ... fundamentalism?

So often inverted ... even as moot and the cesspool floods the castle in a myth ... because scams are primary bothers, worries, etc. Anis ...

Shay don't live here any more ... due to the slip and slide of foundation ware ... skidding on the bends ... 'il arious ... 'ilarian? Word drift ... and some believe it solid ... read into the English shift from Old → Modern as a wild spin ... note the change in understanding of "YOD" ... it may appear as a slur ... whipping up slop from the tongue ... consequence? Significant ...

Those anchored have to hang on for dear life ... as Peter Ustinov declared ... Dear Me ... sometimes a buck changes hands sometimes nott!

May require distinct deep reading of all the literature not just one tome (book/baulque) as god is said to be spread all over the literature as word ... many have restricted readers ... censored? Tis a mortal effect ... limiting? Tongue rollers????

 

[unsafe]

Yep, Christian faith is really doing you a solid

NOT Christian Faith -----that is Dead Faith ------not worth anything really ------

BUT CHRIST'S FAITH ----NOW -------THAT IS ------SOLID -----FAITH -----
Reliable ---Truthful----- Powerful ---- Dynamic -----AND _____-Explosive

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[Luce NDs]

NOT Christian Faith -----that is Dead Faith ------not worth anything really ------

BUT CHRIST'S FAITH ----NOW -------THAT IS ------SOLID -----FAITH -----
Reliable ---Truthful----- Powerful ---- Dynamic -----AND _____-Explosive

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If Christ is the light in the flaming aspect of God ... can the item get out of control without a fire tender like Mariah? What would she do to douse UNSAFE? Dousing is part of diving ... right? Thus the source of dunking and baptism of fire ... it must be put out or maybe putin a sheltered place ... stuffed up an alien channel ...

This can cause some folks to glow red ... bedeviled ... diabolical in metaphor! Is it insecure to tend to more than one word at a time ... thus unsafe in drag as trolling for things to accrue! This may be unconscious activity as unsafe believes not in thinking ... as intellect is evil ... says so in the book ... I heard this a great deal as a child ... many in my mother's church took up with the same idea so as to be unified! It is an interesting diversion ... near divined ...

Flash in the dark ... often unseen ... just a feeling that comes over one ... some say incubus, others ... another buss! Imagine strange kisses in the dark ... stimulation? Sometimes stalagmites ... do they bug yah?

 

[Mendalla]

You know, I kind of regret reopening R&F. Amazing how one poster can take a thread down the toilet (and no, that's not chansen).

When I get home tonight, I'll use my admin account and lock the thread. It's outlived it's usefulness at this point. Also reminds me of why I enjoy so many other sites more than this one nowadays.

 

[chansen]

When I get home tonight, I'll use my admin account and lock the thread.

Just so you know, you're gonna disappoint, like, 3000 people.

 

[Mendalla]

Just so you know, you're gonna disappoint, like, 3000 people.

*Snort* that many? Yeah, sure. The vast majority of our guests are AI bots stealing our content so they can pass it off as their own. Though an LLM chatbot "finding Christ" has a weird appeal to it.

 

[unsafe]

You know, I kind of regret reopening R&F. Amazing how one poster can take a thread down the toilet (and no, that's not chansen).

OH NO --it is definitely not chansen ---he writes the most amazing critical posts of anyone here of what I post --so it definitely isn't chansen screwing up here --

Ridiculous posts require Ridiculous answers ---in m y view ------Just saying ----Mendalla

You can blame me Mendalla ----that is OK ---I can handle it ---

I agree ==Close it off ---good idea -----no more having fun trashing unsafe and her beliefs ----

Will chansen has trashing unsafe withdrawals ----????????? not sure ------

Adding this --it was he who ask where I was remember -----he wanted to have some trashing fun

 

[Mendalla]

Anyhow, back on track (you didn't really think I would keep it locked, did you?)

Our understanding of the universe operates on multiple levels, IMHO.

Science shows us the nuts and bolts. For me at least, science informs the search for meaning. It a source of knowledge that can inform faith and philosophy. Knowing the big picture, how I am physically grounded in and a part of the universe tells me significant things about how I related to that universe and what meaning I can find in my existence.

Faith, religion, and theology (all facets of one approach) are a way we work out our relationship to all that and find meaning in it through belief in some kind of "higher reality" (deities, afterlives, spirits, and so on).

Philosophy in the modern era does much the same for those not inclined to such beliefs. It provides tools such as logic to explore that relationship through reason, though adherence to some precepts and axioms and such can resemble faith.

Spirituality, for me, encompasses all of these approaches. Being spiritual is about looking beyond our everyday lives and simply living to ask what it's all about and what it means rather than just "oh it's there and here's how it works". It's about relationship to other beings and the universe.

And that has largely led me to a version of the UU seventh principle, "the web of all existence of which we are a part", and the UU sources, which encompass everything from personal experience of reality to religious texts to "prophetic voices" (e.g. people who call us to a more just world and to be better human beings).

There, Ape's spirituality in a nutshell. Okay, a rather large nutshell. A Brazil nut, maybe.

 

[Mendalla]

Ridiculous posts require Ridiculous answers ---in m y view ------Just saying

Honestly? That's how flamewars start and responding in kind kills threads faster than any actual content. The gifs and animated laughs went beyond a reasonable response to chansen or anyone. They are just there to provoke, not to seriously respond.

 

[chansen]

Science

Faith, religion, and theology

Philosophy

Spirituality, for me, encompasses all of these approaches.

And if that's the case, everyone values each of those three differently, on top of have different approaches to each, save perhaps science.

There is danger in allowing one spirituality strangle science, philosophy and other spiritualities. That's the sort of intolerance we can not tolerate.

 

[Luce NDs]

Science ; as I said many times before is and observable etude ... difficult among those preferring blind stuff!

Faith, religions and God logic (Theo Logos, classic word) appear to be out there somewhere ...

Philosophy: imagine that in a domain that hates observable studies ... prefers black out! Nacht, or Nott ... in Nordic twists to provide cover! That shady lane item ...

Spiritual encompassment ... by vapors? How Freudian ... that should scare the hell out of them in a frightening 'owl in the dark ... that look in a wild woman's Aye? You're in her sights man ... not a big brother! So the story travels ... because mostly of the scary unknown tactics ... like tyrannical scams (falsely conspired)? That should add to the dissonance and other chaos ... kind of like an emotional fit into a place of calm ... more contamination and corruption of the quiet? Like a storm in Gay Lilly ... perhaps a nightshade (one of those lethargic vegetables)? Joe beans ... giz ... Jes ... how jumped up can it get?

There are bounds ... essence of horizon albeit the edge is dulled and rounded ... implications? They are profuse ... but that is not all ... it goes on ...

 

[unsafe]

You can't respond seriously to stupid silly nonsense posts ----Period ----which chansen is the biggest culprit of when responding to my posts ----which I post what I believe ----just like you all post what you believe ----

Here is an example ---My Serious Post on Faith

Human Intellectual Faith to me is a Mental acceptance of Facts -----that is a belief in what you see --feel ---hear --taste and touch ---it is driven by the 5 senses ------so it has nothing to do with us growing and finding meaning in one's inner self to believe in something or someone greater ----this Faith relies on our mental acceptance of what already exists --

chansen here responding to my SERIOUS POST
See? This is why you can't have nice things.

Stupid silly remark ----he makes here ---but it chansen and he can say what he wants and it is ok ----this has nothing to do with him responding to my post about Faith--this is directed at me personally --not being able to have nice things which makes no sense and has nothing to do with respectfully answering my serious belief in What I believe Faith is and where it is at ----

So allow me to post what I believe without the stupid nasty remarks -----sow that ---

What is good for the Goose is god for the Gander -----Period PLUS

This is what I believe -----there is ONE TRUE FAITH and That Comes From Jesus the Christ who is the word ----- Humans have not the ability to have their own Faith ---all 3 faiths comes from God not us ---and that is Scriptural

There --------that is serious remarks and that is what I believe ----cause that is what Scripture says and I believe scripture -----NOT Humans ---

 

[WhyCzar]

There --------that is serious remarks and that is what I believe ----cause that is what Scripture says and I believe scripture -----NOT Humans ---

I suspect scripture was written by Humans.

 

[Mendalla]

I suspect scripture was written by Humans.

This, exactly. We even know who some of them were, at least in the New Testament. I know some hold that God worked through them or dictated to them but that makes them just robots, basically LLM AI with flesh and blood. Seeing them as human then necessitates accepting that while they may have been inspired or guided by their experience of the Divine, the words are theirs and fallibility is possible.

 

[unsafe]

I suspect scripture was written by Humans.

the person wrote down what they were told to write down by the Holy spirit according to scripture ---

So you don't have to believe that ---but that is what it says -----and that is what I personally believe

2 Timothy 3:16-17
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16 All Scripture is God-breathed [given by divine inspiration] and is profitable for instruction, for conviction [of sin], for correction [of error and restoration to obedience], for training in righteousness [learning to live in conformity to God’s will, both publicly and privately—behaving honorably with personal integrity and moral courage];

17 so that the man of God may be complete and proficient, outfitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Greek
theópneustos ("God-breathed" of speech (every inflected word-form, "reflex") used in the Bible is God-breathed, i.e. inscripturated (written) under divine inspiration.

[G. Archer, "2315 (theópneustos) is better rendered 'breathed out by God' as the emphasis is upon the divine origin of the inscripturated revelation itself"

 

[chansen]

Unsafe, you're doing the sort of thing Trump does - tell people they cant believe their lyin' eyes. The same thing scam artists have always done.

That's exactly why you can't have nice things, like credibility. You can't allow that humans even wrote the passages now in the Bible, plus the myriad of translations and interpretations. You are selling your beliefs while simultaneously implying threats to those who don't buy in. That's not cool.

Your faith does exactly what I was talking about above - it diminishes and warns against any other form of spirituality or non-spirituality. It's not serious from the drop.

 

[Luce NDs]

Is a divine essence rather crotchety and revengeful because of the separation of emotions from intelligence? Then there is the other part where the duo comes together ... a whole new time ... thus exploded emotions overwhelming any clues! Source of the big knock ...

This trinity needs a trunk to hold it together ... thus what some call a "deal" is logged ... you can carve on it ... it may be produced as a wooden ideal!

Question is regarding the great thing noted on the deal (trunk) ... does it resemble a wardrobe in other times? Thus this may be stowed in your chest ... the heartland?

What a stretch eh? Sometimes snappy ... happens when out of the old element ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Unsafe, you're doing the sort of thing Trump does - tell people they cant believe their lyin' eyes. The same thing scam artists have always done.

That's exactly why you can't have nice things, like credibility. You can't allow that humans even wrote the passages now in the Bible, plus the myriad of translations and interpretations. You are selling your beliefs while simultaneously implying threats to those who don't buy in. That's not cool.

Your faith does exactly what I was talking about above - it diminishes and warns against any other form of spirituality or non-spirituality. It's not serious from the drop.

Alas ... in the end UNSAFE is blind tuit and very unseeing about incarnate matter ... all a pile of conspired words from all about as false ... because the physical world is built on lies ... there it is all laid out as Leon declared about lion Jude ... however you can't say that out loud or the messed up and fiery will get Jah ... that called flaming! You can be roasted ...

Can you project how much is exaggerated for no reason ... only desire ... because heh wanted to ... an observation of crazy science when observing the insane it affects one and the other also ... insanity is contagious ... ask RFK!

 

[chansen]

To add to my points to unsafe above, I maintain it's important to laugh in the face of threats. It defangs them. It lays them bare as the impotent intimidation tactics they are.

Because they are presented as sincere threats, humour works against them. You then think you can mock me back with images you found online, and that's not working. It's not working because I'm not threatening anyone. Not even you. So your posts yesterday just come off as immature and not funny.

I get that your beliefs exclude the possibility that anyone else's beliefs could possibly be of value. But you can't show that. In fact, the beliefs you hold have been shown to have negative consequences, despite your claims.

This is your problem to sort out - not mine. As long as you come here with "my way or the highway" beliefs, most of us are going to look at you blankly and choose highway, if we give your posts any serious consideration at all.

 

[Waterfall]

I suspect scripture was written by Humans.

More than likely scripture was written and decided on what beliefs would be included in the Orthodox New Testament by Rome....despite the fact that there were many forms of Christian beliefs that surrounded Italy but were regarded as heretical by the Orthodox Church. Heretical, meaning anything that disagreed with the Orthodox interpretation. Rome had the greatest numbers by population, organization and money which basically led to influence and control over other ways to regard Christianity..... eventually they dominated by insisting that only they held the proper way to believe.
Prior to the Roman Catholic Church's domination, Christianity was quite diverse and tolerated. It wasn't so much how you believed in God, but more that you believed in worshipping God(God's).