WHen Do we Start Afresh?

[BetteTheRed]

I think it's just another of those continuums of diversity that godde gifted us with.

I have absolutely no need for answers, but I'm desperately committed to interesting questions. I am quite capable and happy to hold two opposing views in my head. In fact, if I can't come up with an "on the other hand", I feel inadequate. Drives the big guy a bit mad.

Unsafe, in contrast, views all questions as having one answer, which I think is wyrd.

 

[Luce NDs]

Wyrd is interesting regards to conundrum ... raises some questions that may be the nature of the entire thing questioning itself without knowledge of what is in the enigma ... life and love itself ... where intellect is "disposed of". At least 1/3 of the time ... if you've ever experienced such a time ... it was a party experience because of all those cells taking place that we were not aware of because of the anonymous factors. Mental fatigue? Therein collapse ... spatial layout?

It is a dark and mysterious production that is marked by appearances of smears and "wishes that people were dead" by those putting forth that they are right and the others are left behind as a shadow character in the Black Prince Theory (Gabriel?) about the mysterious factor entropy that counters the appearance of enthalpy ... a problem in thermodynamics and how the very concept spreads!

Where did Gabriel come from? It remains dark and mysterious until some greater power figures where to put the separate categories to suit some vast unknown imperative.

And it is interesting to question the former fortuitous 9 that often counter the notorious furies in a trinitarian effort to dispose of knowing ... like turning the psyche off when involved with intimate measures ...

This sends fear up the spine of the bonnie story of Charles ... said to be a flamer, but I have qualms which are just ... as further question about what we don't know and why? Was it laid out this way by the former twins as if 2 out of 3 ain't bad when you consider the future forthcomings ...

Was Charles a bit odd as Edward ... and thus edified to build a physical edifice in his pride to bring something down ... thought thus descended as economic move to come on down to the market and indulge ... thus when exhausted we stand down ... whilst our essence takes off from the surely portions ... winging slippage! Thus slipstreams and Con Trails leaving vaporous tracks ... fog! That's all there is so we dance about that unknown ... being there was nothing left but a hole, void, in rapturous state wondering what departed ... other that that shot being consumed!

Gued Night Girl ... sticky situation?

Emotional output is like that ... someone rejected and looking on with interest in how and if it ends, or why it even goes on ... continuance about the nature of what else: "nothing"! The qualm may find its circuit around to you in time as dizzying ... dazed projection when the sun comes over the hill about what happened in the dark ... rabid activity?

I once with in the woods on a fishing excursion, where we slept in the night, my partner on the trip has a rabbit bounce on him int the night. We wondered why, etc. Neither of us can respond as he is departed and I am stuck with the unknown ... that can be woven into one of a couplet: a lyres enmity, or a myth (that few are capable of responding to as we never see the other side from a mortal position that is stoned in place.

It may separate A' M'N from the other that remains dark and you know ... inexplicable ... any causes some of us to wonder, appreciatively about the forever question! The never ending item that comprises much of the anonymity that drives ... what else ... doing it again ... over and over without knowing! What's the chance of catching onto the thread that was eliminated? It doth begone ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Does "know thy self" enter the stage? How could it if we read that bible verse about knowledge is evil and constructed a consequence to that which caused termination of Sophia and her adornments ... and it was revealed ... to whom? It is hinted that they never returned to town as normal after the cranking received ... too wound up? This is after or latent to the "other" thing ... ineffable huh!

Thus we are deigned to not know until departing with a bit of something to add to the outside fringe ... the edge crew observing PTSD and all those other disorders ... so it remains somewhat cloudy like Shenandoah in the wee hours ... after the dream period vanished ...

Tis the stuff of myth and you know all about that ... Oh Kaye? Certainly it vanished as forgotten aspect ... so what you contributed to wouldn't bother you, me, myself and I the object of distaste ... Aye!

It is like sitting bull with Luce Vessels ... empty thought into picking up the parts ... a swirl or der vish? In German perhaps you never wished to be in that position ... and thus you could be stilled ... powerful drink? Only with the Ayes and SKOL ... they'll learn eventually ... what a tual ly is? ... Thomas!

Emmaus being a chewing concern ... when Ad rift appears in the overhead! There are just not enough words for description ... definition is totally out!

All that's left: daed qualm ... Nacht 's Dorm ... the dark space ... attractive? Just watch ...

Can a master be enslaved ... and then reverse?

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Exploiting peoples’ mental fatigue to gain entry to their mind and life and manipulate it at will with group effort over time, to cause misunderstanding and chaos and traumatic disorder is acceptable? Is there compensation?

Utilitarianism is wishing other people and groups who are “stupid” or “unproductive” dead.

Wishing the behaviour and insistence on it - to stop - is not the same as actually wanting someone to die.

Start fresh without that behaviour or ideology.

Can such a person change? Dear God, please help them.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

It’s not about knowledge it’s an obsession with personal invasiveness and unwelcome psychological domination they get pleasure from. It’s an addiction to power they call humility - because it’s sneaky and covert. It doesn’t feel godly it feels sickening. But then, they switch. They need help - there is a decent person in there who probably wishes he could stop. I’m not psychoanalizing I’m telling people psycho-spiritual abuse is real. It’s also weaponized.

 

[Mendalla]

Utilitarianism is wishing other people and groups who are “stupid” or “unproductive” dead.

Only in its most extreme form. It's also a legitimate school of philsophy going back to, IIRC, the Enlightenment that argues the value of something is to be found in its usefulness. Those who use it the way you describe are misusing it to a degree, IMHO. The goal should be to see a level of usefulness in every person, not label people as useless and kick them aside. That said, I am not a Utilitarian and have never been fond of it precisely because it can be used in the way you also object to.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Only in its most extreme form. It's also a legitimate school of philsophy going back to, IIRC, the Enlightenment that argues the value of something is to be found in its usefulness. Those who use it the way you describe are misusing it to a degree, IMHO. The goal should be to see a level of usefulness in every person, not label people as useless and kick them aside. That said, I am not a Utilitarian and have never been fond of it precisely because it can be used in the way you also object to.

Well yeah but that gets into problems when there’s no group norm of usefulness for that person to fit. When elimination of “useless” or “stupid” people is their goal it’s dangerous and is a theme in esoteric studies and is how some have interpreted Gnosticism. I have encountered it.

 

[Mendalla]

a theme in esoteric studies and is how some have interpreted Gnosticism

That's a very weird take on Gnosticism. Sounds more like a mashup of it and modern utilitarianism. That's certainly not classical Gnosticism.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

That's a very weird take on Gnosticism. Sounds more like a mashup of it and modern utilitarianism. That's certainly not classical Gnosticism.

Yes, that’s what I think it is.

 

[Luce NDs]

There the death threat delivered is taken in a pragmatic way ... I am dead to many!

Thus worthy of ignorance ... that is to be in an ignored state! Yet, it is amazing what can be learned about mortal functions through the verna*cular ...

Violence and hostility on internet sites? Is this an abstraction that creates paranoia?

 

[unsafe]

Unsafe, in contrast, views all questions as having one answer, which I think is wyrd.

No ---there is always 2 lens in which we view Scripture ------

I just view Scripture from the Spiritual lens -----

-You view Scripture from your worldly lens ----so we both have different views cause we we view Scripture from different lens -----

Your view is right for you ---and my view is right for me ------

Worldly lens viewing of Scripture ---and guess who spells it our

AI

Viewing scripture through a worldly lens involves interpreting the Bible based on secular, cultural, or personal perspectives rather than spiritual truth, often leading to skewed understandings.



Spiritual lens viewing of Scripture

AI
Viewing scripture through a spiritual lens involves moving beyond literal, historical, or purely intellectual analysis to understand the deeper, eternal truths revealed by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Luce NDs]

No ---there is always 2 lens in which we view Scripture ------

I just view Scripture from the Spiritual lens -----

-You view Scripture from your worldly lens ----so we both have different views cause we we view Scripture from different lens -----

Your view is right for you ---and my view is right for me ------

Worldly lens viewing of Scripture ---and guess who spells it our

AI

Viewing scripture through a worldly lens involves interpreting the Bible based on secular, cultural, or personal perspectives rather than spiritual truth, often leading to skewed understandings.



Spiritual lens viewing of Scripture

AI
Viewing scripture through a spiritual lens involves moving beyond literal, historical, or purely intellectual analysis to understand the deeper, eternal truths revealed by the Holy Spirit.

Expect huge variances ... maybe deviances of divine nature ... split Eire ... bad siblings! Leads to imperatives to putting them in distant categories ... the kind of stuff that occurs in a vast psyche ... a much greater mind that the broken sect part?

These melt down and refuse ... refuse what? Now there's situation for avarice ... anil what? It just has to go ...

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

(Veiled threats to someone’s personal circumstances that he shouldn’t even know anything about, and is probably erroneous, misinformed and biased.)

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

There the death threat delivered is taken in a pragmatic way ... I am dead to many!

Thus worthy of ignorance ... that is to be in an ignored state! Yet, it is amazing what can be learned about mortal functions through the verna*cular ...

Violence and hostility on internet sites? Is this an abstraction that creates paranoia?

You’re the one doing the actual psychological damage. Aargh! The manipulation stinks to high heaven! Telling someone “to go” is a threat which you do all the time and is coercion to suicide or worse when you know how bad and dark things are for them you try to pull them deeper in. Calculations over compassion. You’ve vaguely alluded that people “have to go” which is terrifying but you won’t admit it means anything. You’ve talked about eliminating people. You’ve suggested to people they need to “go”. You’ve have taunted people for not being curious about death. You’ve done this systematically and vigorously. That’s your gnostic utilitarian ideal.

There’d be much to be interested in if you weren’t forcing yourself into people’s lives - and you are.

You’re a creeper. If you know someone and want to help you’d be transparent. Do you believe you own lives? Just stop coming here and keep your thoughts to yourself if you can’t keep it light and non invasive. Don’t hurt anyone! Hang out with your wife and kids or choir friends and mind your own fking problems and incessant habits and faults and don’t get involved uninvited. That’s what I wish but nobody will defend me.

You’ve ruined my WC2 experience and it hasn’t been limited to here.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I’m sorry to unload that. To start fresh I’d like Luce to not bother me and not harm anyone. Pray for it because I don’t know what else to do about it. I can’t believe I’ve got zero support here but whatever. I’d stay polite but it’s not a stay polite situation.

 

[GordW]

I’m sorry to unload that. To start fresh I’d like Luce to not bother me and not harm anyone. Pray for it because I don’t know what else to do about it. I can’t believe I’ve got zero support here but whatever. I’d stay polite but it’s not a stay polite situation.

Simple. CLick to ignore his posts so you don't see them and don't click to see ignored posts. You are the one blocking yourslef from that solution.

 

[Delightful Life]

Simple. CLick to ignore his posts so you don't see them and don't click to see ignored posts. You are the one blocking yourslef from that solution.

That has been suggested more than once
And they won't leave (as they have suggested and others have suggested a lot over our group's lifetime)
They are following a long established pattern; this time, they are focussed and demonizing LUCID LSD (and this time writing some pretty deranged beliefs aboot him affecting them...)
I've been subject to this in the past; what you are seeing is why I ultimately broke with them as much as possible.
Now I see they are bullying LUCID LSD so I had to speak up on that
This person seems permanently damaged and won't or can't take responsibility for their attacks
It'll be up to the Deities of our community to ultimately decide in future

Sorry for the derail

 

[Delightful Life]

So when do we start afresh? Sabbatticals are a gouda thing. I think part of why everything has an expiry date (from careers to carob to civilizations) is so that new possibilities can happen
Like I have noticed after being away from home for a long enough time I can see things when I get back that I hadn't paid attention to before, like behaviours and habits

I also think that there is a tribe, a congregation, whatever for everyone. We all don't have to share in the same tribe, values, beliefs, etc etc etc

Over time, everything completely naturally changes and drifts. So the Beatles eventually became something else

When do I know it is time for intentional change to restate your question?

Anyway, gouda thread

 

[BetteTheRed]

No ---there is always 2 lens in which we view Scripture ------

I just view Scripture from the Spiritual lens -----

-You view Scripture from your worldly lens ----so we both have different views cause we we view Scripture from different lens -----

You agree with me. There is more than one way to view a holy text. You say that there is one correct way - your way and that everything else is wrong - two ways.

I say that there are thousands of ways to read holy scripture and they're probably all right, and godde decides anyway, so I don't have to worry about it. I largely participate in a christian congregation for two reasons: i) nice people tend to tend me to more niceness, which I need and ii) social justice is a belief of mine and we live it, largely.

 

[unsafe]

You agree with me. There is more than one way to view a holy text.

There is only one Rhema word which is the Spiritual meaning behind the Logos word -which is given by the Holy Spirit to Born Again people

You read the Logos word only ---

I read the Rhema word which the Holy Spirit gives to believers -----

So there are 2 ways to read scripture but only one Spiritual Truth -----