What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

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Luce NDs said:
I've been asked to sing' "when we were young Maggie" at a Kitchen Party ... is this something coch' dupe?

What exactly are Magi? No one knows or cares ... a sense of beyond! Thus the out there are indicated ... edge NG? tattered ,,,
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Northwind said:
Yes, there are documented examples of things that trump did for others. Yes, he appeared to help a few people. Being the true, and well-documented narcissist he is, he wasn't likely doing it out of any sense of altruism. He'll do anything that he thinks makes him look good.
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Duh, if you actually read the fact-checked documentation carefully, you'd realize that the celebration of Trump's kindness came from his beneficiaries!
And your unwarranted smarmy imputation of unworthy motives betrays the typical woke lack of sensitivity to moral nuance and, worse, overlooks the fact that some of these acts of compassion were bestowed years before Trump ran for president.
but then the woker fixation with the cancel culture mentality blinds them to the need to understand that even obnovious arrogant politicians can have a tender kind side. They forget that King David was a murderer and an adulterer, yet he is the only man to be described in the Bible as "a man after God's own heart."

Here are more examples of his acts of kindness that have largely gone unnoticed:​

Donald J. Trump Foundation

In this Jan. 30, 2016 file photo, Donald Trump holds a check presentation with a $100,000 contribution from the Donald J. Trump Foundation to Puppy Jake, a veteran's charity, at a campaign event in Davenport.

"A lot of people may be turned off by his tweets, his mannerisms, or even the way he talks, but the way President Trump treats politicians (whom most Americans hate) is much different than how he treats the American people. Here are a few examples of his kindness and charitable moments: Stopping the presidential motorcade promptly to thank firefighters. Helping a Harlem hospital repair its elevator systems. Loaning his private airline to the family of a three-year-old boy suffering from a life-threatening medical condition so he could get treatment in New York. Another story is that of Annabel Hill, whose husband killed himself for insurance money to save his family farm, but the insurance wouldn’t pay for a suicide. Trump stepped in and helped save the farm. Trump also let Jennifer Hudson and some of her family members stay in Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago for free after her relatives were killed. Trump sent a bus driver a $10,000 check for stopping a woman from jumping off a bridge. These are just a few of the many acts of kindness that have gone unnoticed by the media and most Americans."
 
So because he has shown kindness on occasion does that give him a pass on all his indictments?

I'm not the one who fails to see nuance or reality.

What colour is the sky in your world?
 
I sort of remember a few years ago Trump or another famous person was investigated for misuse of a charitable foundation. How much money in the Trump Foundation was provided by Trump?
 
Northwind said:
So because he has shown kindness on occasion does that give him a pass on all his indictments?
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In your simplistic black and white progressive world, your woke-tinted glasses can't imagine someone with serious flaws who occasionally displays great moral nobility. This occasional nobility of character shines through the clouds, even if Trump is convicted on some of these indictments. But your tone-deaf attitude illustrates how a woker afflicted with cancel-culture disease perceives her myopic world. Your peevish gaze seeks out something to cancel, whereas I seek out potential inner beauty in ominous skies.
Northwind said:
I'm not the one who fails to see nuance or reality.

What colour is the sky in your world?
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My sky is colored by clouds with shades of gray, unlike your black and white clouds so simplistically construed to serve your woke agenda.
I can appreciate the spiritually soaring psalms of David crafted by someone who was once a murderer and an adulterer before he morphed into "a man after God's own heart," as the Bible puts it.
 
Me, black and white thinker. That's hysterical.

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Do you feel like a bigger man and oh so superior when you continue to throw out insults and assumptions. Poor you.

I'm curious, what real life experience do you have with people who have personality disorders? I'm talking about people with narcissism or who are sociopaths? What clinical knowledge do you have of that group?

You are single-mindedly trying to convince us that trump is a kind, generous person. You are ignoring the crimes he's alleged to have committed.

I and others have acknowledged that he has done things that have been viewed as generous. I have acknowledged that there are more reasonable Republicans (somewhere) than MAGA. Clearly you have a comprehension problem because you continue to accuse me and others of things which are false.

If it makes you feel like a superior person and a real man, then have at er.
 
Mystic said:
In your simplistic black and white progressive world, your woke-tinted glasses can't imagine someone with serious flaws who occasionally displays great moral nobility. This occasional nobility of character shines through the clouds, even if Trump is convicted on some of these indictments. But your tone-deaf attitude illustrates how a woker afflicted with cancel-culture disease perceives her myopic world. Your peevish gaze seeks out something to cancel, whereas I seek out potential inner beauty in ominous skies.

My sky is colored by clouds with shades of gray, unlike your black and white clouds so simplistically construed to serve your woke agenda.
I can appreciate the spiritually soaring psalms of David crafted by someone who was once a murderer and an adulterer before he morphed into "a man after God's own heart," as the Bible puts it.
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This whole post felt like projection to me. The tone was peevish. The claim about black and white progressives seems very black and white to me. Your attitude through this whole thread seemed pretty tone deaf. The only culture most people on this thread want to cancel is the use of power to abuse others, like a presidential candidate ridiculing a person with physical handicaps.

It is hard to see nobility in someone who calls immigrants animals, harasses the families of court officials, terrorizes the members of his party.

David was a man after God's own heart before he was a murderer and most of his psalms were crafted before he became a king.
 
jimkenney12 said:
It is hard to see nobility in someone who calls immigrants animals, harasses the families of court officials, terrorizes the members of his party.
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Yes, it is hard because Trump can be an arrogant jerk, but loving eyes that see nobility in the unlovable are precisely what Paul requires of you instead of your irritable resentment against Trump:

"Love is not irritable or resentful. Love believes all things, hopes all things (1 Corinthians 13:5, 7)."
"Love be authentic...outdo one another in showing respect... Don't repay anyone evil for evil, but TAKE THOUGHT FOR WHAT IS NOBLE IN THE SIGHT OF ALL (Romans 12:9-17)."

In a wittily self-deprecating post, Trump confesses that he is at his best when he speaks unscripted, but is also ironically often at his worst when he does so.
For example, when he calls illegal aliens (not "immigrants!") "animals," he is actually just referring to the criminal element whose crimes regularly cover the news here and create widespread sympathy for Trump's insistence on tighter border restrictions.

Readers will notice that Northwind, jimkeney12 and their ilk freeze like Bambi in the headlights when it is pointed out that several of Trump's quiet acts of compassion were performed years prior to his run for the presidency.
jimkenney12 said:
David was a man after God's own heart before he was a murderer and most of his psalms were crafted before he became a king.
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Yes, and an all-knowing God foreknew that David was destined to become a murderer and an adultererk, and yet, He still refers to him as "a man after His own heart!"
 
Mystic said:
Readers will notice that Northwind, jimkeney12 and their ilk freeze like Bambi in the headlights when it is pointed out that several of Trump's quiet acts of compassion were performed years prior to his run for the presidency.
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Liar. That is not what I have said or believe.

Sure, trump has done good things. His crimes and con jobs far outweigh the good. He's a flawed human being who needs to be held accountable for his actions.

It is possible to care about the humanity of a person while still holding them accountable.

Merely focusing on the good of someone like trump gives him more power. If there's any chance he can be redeemed it is through being held accountable.
 
Mystic said:
Yes, it is hard because Trump can be an arrogant jerk, but loving eyes that see nobility in the unlovable are precisely what Paul requires of you instead of your irritable resentment against Trump:

"Love is not irritable or resentful. Love believes all things, hopes all things (1 Corinthians 13:5, 7)."
"Love be authentic...outdo one another in showing respect... Don't repay anyone evil for evil, but TAKE THOUGHT FOR WHAT IS NOBLE IN THE SIGHT OF ALL (Romans 12:9-17)."

In a wittily self-deprecating post, Trump confesses that he is at his best when he speaks unscripted, but is also ironically often at his worst when he does so.
For example, when he calls illegal aliens (not "immigrants!") "animals," he is actually just referring to the criminal element whose crimes regularly cover the news here and create widespread sympathy for Trump's insistence on tighter border restrictions.

Readers will notice that Northwind, jimkeney12 and their ilk freeze like Bambi in the headlights when it is pointed out that several of Trump's quiet acts of compassion were performed years prior to his run for the presidency.

Yes, and an all-knowing God foreknew that David was destined to become a murderer and an adultererk, and yet, He still refers to him as "a man after His own heart!"
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Well God's not voting, but if that's what the majority want, that's what they get, I accept that.
 
David spared Saul's life, refusing an opportunity or two to kill him. Nor did David constantly criticize Saul. Mr. Trump has not ceased badmouthing both Obama and Biden. I would suggest there's a difference between David and Mr. Trump, wouldn't you agree?
David committed adultery with Bathsheeba, but accepted responsibility for his act, and took the punishment for it. Trump sexually assaulted a woman, denied it, is appealing the penalty, and talking trash about the women, the court system, and the punishment. Again, big difference.

Mystic, are you trying to imply that Mr. Trump is 'a man after God's own heart?' I would strongly beg to differ.
 
I need to add that I am not the only one @Mystic chooses to misrepresent. @jimkenney12 has made some thoughtful comments as have others here.

Apparently disagreeing with Mystic is not okay.

Calling people animals or vermin is never okay. I'm shocked that someone trying to make trump noble thinks it's okay to call even a criminal such names. Where's the nobility in those people? Do they not deserve the love Mystic wants us to shower on trump? Aren't we supposed to love everyone?

Maybe Mystic is looking for someone to see the nobility in him.
 
I do not understand the part about freezing like Bambi in the headlights. I have mot seen any love for Biden in Mystics comments. I believe there is bad and good on everyone. For a while I hoped that being held accountable might help Trump's better side assert itself but it seems like the nobility that was once to be found in him has withered away. In his desperation to escape accountability, he has shown his willingness to destroy the GOP and democracy in the United States.

I realize that Mystic's opposition to the right of women to have control over their bodies is more important than anything else politically.
 
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