What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

[Northwind]

"The context is his history and his life" Ana Naverro

This is the bottom line. You can take words like bloodbath etc and say it has context.

It damn well does have context. We've seen him for the better part of 50 years and know his "character"

 

[jimkenney12]

In the midst of all the fear, good thongs are happening unnoticed. Expansion of regenerative agriculture is increasing carbon storage in soils and reducing the use of pesticides. Workers sre gaining ground in many jurisdictions. Millenials are not buying into many of the habits and attitudes of earlier generations. Advances are being made in health care along with the challenges of adequate availability. Gains in reducing the intensity of use of fossil fuels for transportation and heating are being made.

We need to challenge the right wing in their promotion of false strategies for meeting social needs and their exaggeration of the dangers of federal deficits and government policies. We need to challenge the left wing in their focus on issues that are of abstract importance while neo liberal economic religion is causing harm to many people

 

[Mystic]

Wow @Mystic I appreciate that you responded to my questions more thoroughly.

Your "baby girls" argument makes you appear to be a troll. It is ridiculous. You pretend to be concerned for girls, as future women, yet seem to have no concern for baby boys or current women. You make abortion a simplistic issue. But that's not the overall topic of this thread.

Duh, murder of baby boys is also heinous. But pro-abortionists like to argue that abortion is a women's issue. So if t;hey're going to play that card, they need to have their noses rubbed in the murder of baby girls, destined to become women.

The fact you justify trump's behaviour by saying killing baby girls is worse than anything he's said is alarming.

Duh, murdering babies is more immoral than vile speech.
And I don't justify Trump's deplorable behavior.

No human being should be called an animal. That's how he described a group of people - literally, not figuratively.

He was referring to the criminal element of illegal aliens, who have been murdering young women here.

Any person of colour or any female person who behaved even a little like this candidate would have been eliminated long ago.

And I wish Trump were eliminated as a candidate. But even Trump is preferrable to mentally inept Biden. And my friends, all well educated, would agree with me on that. Never before have we had such a lamentable presidential choice.

If any one of us had been facing even a couple of the charges he's facing we'd already be in jail, or have been adjudicated.

If any one of us, having been charged with even a few of those charges, were free and behaving as he has been, we'd have our bail revoked because of the danger we clearly pose.

Mystic I'm concerned about your well-being

And I'm concerned about your battle with cancer and am praying for a remission.

 

[Northwind]

In the midst of all the fear, good thongs are happening unnoticed

Chansen has been watching this thread and couldn't resist saying:

Going unnoticed is the job of a good thong. So I’m told.

 

[Northwind]

Duh, murdering babies is more immoral than vile speech.

If it were only about vile speech, this might be true. He has shown his behaviour and "character" for the better part of 50 years. Not to mention that his speech has power and has invoked actions. Of course he can maintain plausible deniability. Like a mob boss.

I truly do not understand how he can be even remotely considered a Christian when he is a demonstration of all the deadly sins.

Duh, murder of baby boys is also heinous. But pro-abortionists like to argue that abortion is a women's issue. So if t;hey're going to play that card, they need to have their noses rubbed in the murder of baby girls, destined to become women.

No one is a pro-abortionist. Most people who believe in pro-choice do not like abortion. I sure don't. I don't think it is the best option. That being said, it is not my place to tell another person (couple) what they should do. I can support and listen as they make their decision. I turned down a job at a Catholic hospital because if I accepted it, I would not be allowed to even listen to a woman's concerns as she decided what to do about an unplanned pregnancy. I would never ever counsel someone to get an abortion. I would though, support her if that's what she chose.

The government has absolutely NO business telling women what to do. That's between her and her doctors and support system.

It is shocking that people who would want limited government are okay with the government legislating health related decisions.

And I'm concerned about your battle with cancer and am praying for a remission.

Thanks. The best I can hope for is stable. I'm good with that because stable can last a long time.

 

[Northwind]

For your consideration. These ladies are blunt and bang on

 

[Mystic]

'
Northwind: "Trump is a horrible person. We've seen him action for the better part of 50 years. What decent thing have we seen from him?"

Wokers attack Trump as a hate monger. Yet you and your ilk are so full of hatred for Trump that you are utterly incapable of moral nuance in recognizing that Trump, despite his flaws, has a ration of inner beauty and endearing character like most people. So in the interests of balanced assessment, I repost these 3 laudatory aspects of Trump's life that wokers choose to ignore:

(1) Just some of Donald Trump's Quiet Random Acts of Kindness:

Donald Trump's 'Quiet Acts of Random Kindness'

A viral Facebook post recounted several supposed gestures of generosity by the U.S. president.

www.snopes.com

(2) Examples of Trump's Self-Deprecating Sense of Humor:

"If you’re paying as much attention to all of his tweets..., you'll find some striking moments when Trump isn’t just raging outward, but making fun of himself—even showing a wry acceptance of the caricatures favored by the left. He has challenged his followers to find the secret meaning behind his famed “covfefe” accidental tweet. He’s made light of the notion that he would seek a third term, joking about leaving office “in six years, or maybe 10 or 14 (just kidding).” In August, as he was floating the purchase of a certain Danish territory, he tweeted a picture of a gold-plated Trump hotel photoshopped onto a craggy shore, along with the words, “I promise not to do this to Greenland!” He makes cracks about himself in person, too; at a recent rally in Louisiana, he poked fun at the rambling rhetoric that sometimes gets him into trouble: “I do my best work off script. ... I also do my worst work off script.”

(3) The Far Left here need to temper their agenda-driven comments with an education in Trump's many presidential accomplishments:

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The Complete List of President Trump's Accomplishments | 1310 WIBA | Dan O'Donnell​

This is the complete list of President Trump's accomplishments over his four years in office originally posted at WhiteHouse.gov and archived here because of the likelihood that the Biden Administration will remove it.

wiba.iheart.com

Progressive Christians here need to be reminded that King David was a murderer and an adulterer. Yet he is the only man in Scripture to be described as "man after God's own heart (1 Samuel 13:14)." Trump's candidacy may not survive all these politically motivated court cases, but if he does. he'll get my vote instead of our current victim of Dementia. O how lefties here wish Trump also had dementia, but then they lack the same access we have to Biden's constant stream of gaffes and the lengths his handlers go to keeping him out of the interview limelight. Nor are they privy to Trump's highly effective rally speeches that fire up his base.

 

[Redbaron]

You have posted those two articles, already mostly debunked, before, at least twice. Your repetition of them over and over does not make them any more convincing than they were before.

 

[Luce NDs]

You have posted those two articles, already mostly debunked, before, at least twice. Your reputation of them over and over does not make them any more convincing than they were before.

Yet his tough's tuff goes on and on because he is not member of the calm passionate sect ... just brutus as heis!

Word as God can be brute too ... just read into it deeply! Lord the stuff that God's phoque did and buried ... all sealed up in historical reference ...

 

[Mystic]

You have posted those two articles, already mostly debunked, before, at least twice. Your reputation of them over and over does not make them any more convincing than they were before.

As a whole, not debunked. What is most relevant here is the deafening woker silence about Trump's quietr acts of kindness and self-effacing sense of humor.

 

[Redbaron]

As a whole, yes, debunked. And I wouldn't call what he has a "sense of humour."
He has simply claimed credit for what others have done, like signing the Veterans' Bills that Obama signed before Trump ever came into office.

 

[Luce NDs]

Sense of humor of those of authority can be labelled brutish as a miserable spell on those defective regarding intellect!

It is said if this spirit is lost it is difficult to recover ... even in doctor ates ... self consuming flaws?

 

[Mrs.Anteater]

As a whole, not debunked. What is most relevant here is the deafening woker silence about Trump's quietr acts of kindness and self-effacing sense of humor.

Yes, and Hitler liked his dogs and was a really good artist. He couldn’t have been that bad..

 

[Mystic]

Yes, and Hitler liked his dogs and was a really good artist. He couldn’t have been that bad..

You haven't even read the 3 fact-checked example of his quiet compassion and generosity confirmed by the grateful beneficiaries.
Such is the ghastly bias of wokers. I think his self-effacing sense of humor is endearing, though I'm particularly offended by some of his recent comments.
Notice how Redbaron nitpicks one item in Trump's resume and uses it to dismiss the long list of his accomplishments. My friends recognize how great his agenda accomplishments were during his presidency--far greater than the Obamanation!

 

[Northwind]

Yet you and your ilk are so full of hatred for Trump that you are utterly incapable of moral nuance in recognizing that Trump, despite his flaws, has a ration of inner beauty and endearing character like most people.

No it's not hatred. It is decades of observing a narcissistic sociopath in action. It's observing how he bankrupted businesses. Who on earth can't make a casino earn money?? FFS. What a loser.

It's also decades of working in a field that allowed me to have a good knowledge of personality disorders.

You can call us names all you like. That doesn't make him a better person.

Yes, and Hitler liked his dogs and was a really good artist. He couldn’t have been that bad..

He also treated his adorers well. People thought he was wonderful. Arguably, he did turn around Germany's economy for awhile (you obviously would know better) He was seen as the great white saviour to a nation that was in rough shape after WWI. He had a charm for some time.

My friends recognize how great his agenda accomplishments were during his presidency--far greater than the Obamanation!

 

[Northwind]

From Twitter for what it's worth.

"BREAKING: There is reportedly a huge rift in the Trump family following Jared Kushner’s refusal to help his father-in-law pay the bond to his massive $464 million fine, and Ivanka is not answering her father’s calls."

 

[Waterfall]

Okay, @Mystic, I looked it up on the Financial Post site that compared both Obama and Trumps performance during each of their presidency's and they are fairly comparable with the economy, unemployment, jobs and other issues.....both sides can even claim victory on some files.

Posthaste: Who handled the economy better — Donald Trump or Barack Obama? The results are a bit surprising

Both sides can claim victory on some files

financialpost.com

 

[Mystic]

Wow, what woke hatred! What Northwind doesn't get is that the beneficiaries of Trump's quiet acts of great compassion weren't particularly admirers of Trump, whom they didn't know, until they experienced his great kindness, and then they broke their silence to celebrate his generosity.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Actually, should one actually get into real economic statistics, nothing terribly interesting comes out. In Canada, as a state, and by province, "liberal" politics have proven a bit more economically positive than more conservative, but tons of exceptions. U.S. is the same. Global economics is primary as is state to state trade.

 

[Northwind]

Wow, what woke hatred! What Northwind doesn't get is that the beneficiaries of Trump's quiet acts of great compassion weren't particularly admirers of Trump, whom they didn't know, until they experienced his great kindness, and then they broke their silence to celebrate his generosity.

Call it what you will.

He may be kind to admirers. Have you happened to notice what happens if anyone dares question dear leader?

Have you noticed how he treats women? Especially women of colour in positions of power.

I wouldn't want any woman I loved to be alone with him. You?