What Legacy Does Trump Leave?
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jimkenney12
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Cancel culture usually means no longer having the privilege of being a jerk in treating other people without consequences.
Yes, it's called a denial of freedom of speech and, as such, is far more immoral than the jerk speech.
jimkenney12
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? How do you define immoral? Is this a case of it is more immoral to make privileged people accountable for their behaviour than itvis to protect marginalized people from abuse?
Northwind
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How about cancel culture that "boycotts" Budweiser, M&M's, musicians, etc. What about freedom of speech there.
Oh, and banning abortion, which affects other aspects of women's health. Gerrymandering voting districts etc.
Do only some have freedom of speech.
I'm asking out of curiosity not judgement
BetteTheRed
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I really dislike suppression of speech. Maybe I'm prescient or summat, but in my experience, words preserved, not suppressed, hoist many a person on their own petard.
Mendalla
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As a headbanger who used to play D&D, I am amused and saddened by the fact that the right wing crowd now complaining about "cancel culture" are roughly the same folks who wanted to ban both for being "Satanic". Fortunately, the metalheads just grinned and had fun with it (most "Satanic" metal bands are either just taking the piss or are "Satanic" in the sense of seeing Satan as the ultimate rebel against the oppressive system, not as a force for "evil") while we D&D types just shook our heads and kept on hunting dragons in dungeons.
Fortunately, wokers can't stop conservative drinkers from choosing the beer of their choice.
The church of the NT era condemned abortion (The Teaching of the 12 Apostles 4:2).
But if you want the choice to kill female babies, cancel culture should not deny you that right.
Courts, not cancel culture, must determine the legality of Democratic attempts at gerrymandering voting districts--and that applies to Republican efforts to do the the same.
The mass violence of the BLM movement should have been and was"cancelled"--with the help of exposing the financial corruption of BLM leadership.
BetteTheRed
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Of course that means that one may never ban books.
Redbaron
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DEMOCRATIC attempts at gerrymandering? Care to guess again?
Article from 2021, from the Guardian, about gerrymandering.
These maps show how Republicans are blatantly rigging elections
Scroll down our visual guide to see how gerrymandering allows Republicans to virtually guarantee their re-election
www.theguardian.com
BetteTheRed
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Hiliariously, American voting districts are so contorted by gerrymandering, that there is a font made of real voting districts:
www.vice.com
This Font Is Made of Ridiculously Gerrymandered Congressional Districts
The font is called Ugly Gerry and serves as a fun reminder that our political system is fundamentally dysfunctional.
www.vice.com
Wokers like Redbaron myopically zero in on biased and outdated data to promote their woke agenda and thus can't acknowledge updated data: e. g.DEMOCRATIC attempts at gerrymandering? Care to guess again?
Article from 2021, from the Guardian, about gerrymandering.
These maps show how Republicans are blatantly rigging elections
Scroll down our visual guide to see how gerrymandering allows Republicans to virtually guarantee their re-election
Court rules N.Y. Democrats gerrymandered congressional map
The judges ruled that the 2022 map “was drawn to discourage competition and favor Democrats.”
www.nbcnews.com
Northwind
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It's not "wokers" whose knickers were in a knot about Budweiser, M&M's and the like.
It seems to me that "wokers" have more tolerance for free speech than "conservatives".
Frankly, I don't see anything wrong with healthy conservatism. In fact, we need that. MAGA doesn't represent conservatism.
A) since when should the NY dictate how a government should legislate in a country that allegedly has a separation of church and state.
B) who said anything about female babies
C) are you comfortable having the government dictate your health choices?
As for gerrymandering, it isn't the Dems who are doing that these days.
Mendalla
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I think the obvious conclusion about gerrymandering is that politicians of any stripe should not be in charge of the electoral system, including riding/district boundaries. Regardless of whether one or both are doing it, it's a distinctly undemocratic way to do democracy. Canada's system of having an independent commission redraw boundaries based on actual census data and then the politicians just voting to accept their work makes much more sense than political wrangling about it.
Redbaron
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The data in the Guardian article is not outdated. The Guardian article is, in fact, only one year older than the article you have cited. It also covers several states, rather than the one whole state yours mentions.Wokers like Redbaron myopically zero in on biased and outdated data to promote their woke agenda and thus can't acknowledge updated data: e. g.
Court rules N.Y. Democrats gerrymandered congressional map
The judges ruled that the 2022 map “was drawn to discourage competition and favor Democrats.”
jimkenney12
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Both political parties gerrymander.
Mystic:
What is the teaching of the twelve Apostles? What gives it any degree of credibility?
What is the specific teaching regarding abortion?
Is Trump stacking the supreme court with anti abortion judges one of his great accomplishments for you?
Mystic:
What is the teaching of the twelve Apostles? What gives it any degree of credibility?
What is the specific teaching regarding abortion?
Is Trump stacking the supreme court with anti abortion judges one of his great accomplishments for you?
A point that both Northwind and Redbaron naively overlook, as I have demonstrated/
The Didache's prohibition of abortion is contained in the Two Ways section of the Didache, a section patterned after the Twp Ways structure of Qumran's Manual of Discipline. More importantly, scholars date the Didache's Two Ways section prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, though the final edition of the Didache was composed around 95 AD.-, still well within the NT era. "Didache is the French shorthand for the full title "The Teaching of the 12 Apostles."
"Thou shalt not procure an abortion (4:2)."
With no dissenting voices in late antiquity, this prohibition quickly becomes the universally embraced moral teaching of the early church and therefore the presumptive position on abortion shared by Jesus and the apostles. And as I have established on another thread, the preexistence of the soul is the standard Jewish teaching in late antiquity.
Trump's efforts to prevent the murder of baby girls outweighs all his political negatives due to their concrete result of saving countless lives.
Northwind
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So abortion is only banned for baby girls??? News to me.
How many women have or will die because they can't get a medically necessary abortion? How many women will die because they go to back alley "abortionists".
The abortion ban has negative effects on other aspects of women's health. It has already had an impact on IVF.
Do trump's efforts outweigh his calling immigrants inhuman? Do they outweigh his obvious brain "glitches"?