What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

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Well, honestly, their best choices make our worst look sort of okay. PP is a quaint centrist polite democrat compared to what the U.S. proffers as their most conservative conservative, to some extent. A cult of wyrd personality, ffs. Like their attempts to contribute to Christianity. Not all that helpful. Much of it pretty evidential of the end of an Empire.
I dunno
Seventh Day Adventists got us Kellog and the health craze (exercise, watching calories, etc)
And Witnesses got us relatively bloodless surgery...

Amish are pretty cool, what with their rational and considered approach to technology

Black Liberation theology could only have formed in USA

(gotta remember even without empire'a involvement with Africa, there wasa lot of conflict and war there -- USA like Canada is outlier compared to most countries in that respect...)

UN Declaration of Human rights came from USA (which got inspiration from Britain)

The Reformed Mennonites of 1812

The Indian Shaker Church, which was a cool mix of Indiginous, Catholic and Protestant in WA state

But yeah, USA is our loud sister below us lol

We definitely are living in a wyrd time. Globally.
 
I am still surprised when I see video clips of him at his rallies, or speaking to groups of people: He is rambling, repeating himself, using his typical two-syllable words over and over, and the crowd is cheering, clapping, smiling whenever they THINK he is saying something they agree with. I get the heebie jeebies.

He knows how to use persuasion

 
In contrast to some video opinions expressed above, if you haven't been listening to Trumps most recent grumbles, here is Liz Cheney on what will happen if Trump ever gets into the White House again. As she points out, this almost happened once.

Well weren't enough people terrified before the 2020 election that the Orange Pimple would not leave his office when he lost?

And that didn't happen

Like many people thought he was literal hitler and would form concentration camps?

Don't trust Liz Cheney. She is not a good person. I guess tho in the topsy turvey USA where Dems are holding the opposite views of what they used to hold...
 
Another thing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is the guilty until proven innocent happening around this whole thang

I want the Orange Pimple to get charged etc following the rule of law. Society is more important than breaking the law (both moral and legal) to get this guy.

Anyway, too much for me

Have fun, folx!
 
Listen to what the Orange Pimple is saying:
  • He has been clear about seeking revenge on his enemies. He is a vengeful person and has been in all the time he's been in the public eye
  • He has said he will take revenge on his first day in office during a recent interview with Sean Hannity.
  • He has called his enemies vermin
  • He has not said he is innocent. Instead he has attacked people like the judge(s) and his clerk
  • He is viscous when speaking of people who have tried to hold him accountable (E.Jean Carroll, the black female prosecutors, Jack Smith, the mother and daughter poll workers, etc)
  • He has called people who oppose him, lefties, etc vermin. That is a page out of strongman books. Mussolini used that language
  • He lies and projects regularly.

Read Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present by Ruth Ben Ghiat. Dr Ben Ghiat makes a good case for the Pimple being a strongman wannabe. (At least)

If you know anything about personality disorders you will see that the pimple fits solidly on the Axis II.

He is a living breathing example of what happens when you don't say no to your children. He has never once been held accountable in his life.

He is not suited to be president and never should have held that office.
 
Well, honestly, their best choices make our worst look sort of okay. PP is a quaint centrist polite democrat compared to what the U.S. proffers as their most conservative conservative, to some extent. A cult of wyrd personality, ffs. Like their attempts to contribute to Christianity. Not all that helpful. Much of it pretty evidential of the end of an Empire.
No he’s not. He’s a weasely Trump puppet with better vocabulary and Justin is burnt out to the point of serious incompetence - some jaw dropping problems have occurred under his watch. We like to pat ourselves on the back because maybe Canada as a whole is polite…mainstream Canada worships politeness but we’ve got some really f’d up problems and creepingly fascistic policies happening here. I’d say on Track 2 MAiD we’ve got a head start on the world stage with some pretty damning human rights abuses that are only going to result in the killing of more marginalized people so it’s time for Canadians to get off our high horses and open our eyes to what’s happening here too. It’s a bloody horrendous state of affairs.
 
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If leaders preach blind faith to a mass of folks that are receptive to promises of good without evidence ... will blind faith form the ephemera we know as nothing ... and we are stripped of any hope of learning different?

Now within the context of trauma ... has one faced the abyss of blind faith? Is it contagious within the innocent?

Can the elite autonomous folk (separate from the work of survival) come to the conclusion that they should not be taxed for what they extracted from the greater social collective? All this because of their sharp ability to cut through ethics to generate imaginative laws that benefit Hoos collected physical talents. Thus wicked stories that must be suppressed about imbalance in the surrounding environment of the chosen ... a state of piety to say least about chimera (shining examples).

How d tax, tact's, and tacked up political tracts stack up? In sheer chaos if you does not take them in with considerable power of interpretation and digestion (limited by proper nutrition in several facets and vectors). The exclusion and exile of many of there vectors to benefit the few may cause a sickness in the foundation, allowing for suicidal failure of the integral of all things whether real or virtue AL in the rub with ultimate matters and the immaterial.

What is often referred to as immaterial is initiated in a poorly cultivated head ... thus the generation of the abstract mine ... a dark hole in reality that may fit the bill for someplace to bury the talent of thought! With the shutters closed ... there are blind fates ... 3 've 'eM! Beyond that 9 of the counter type ... artistically transcend ant ... sometimes represented by the icon Ӝ sometimes appearing as a bug or a snowflake to represent something to Kohl the passions ... Kohl being from an arid Semite tongue now lost due to hatred of alien conjurations! These things can blossom into a NU clear winter ... in which neurons suffer sloe stoppages ... Bung 'd? Imagine that metamorphizing ... the change comes ... anon! Then you see how it went when it shouldn't have ... gone that far off the line ... a medium? Transcendental means???? Some mine-body connection must be maintained ... general upkeep of the sentient to provide Beta sapiens ... homoe as well blended? Yet it falls within humane folly and failure!

Can we learn from something we've been encouraged to overlook with a hard hand? Thus learning is a pain and well secured within the fringes of mythology ... like archeology ... something commoner's do not dig because of censure legitimacies ... thus declared in dictates ...

Most do not know enough to dictate for the ultimate good of all that is God ... the self-effacing subtleties of life as it goes down in history as failed imperialistic efforts ...

Is it potential that some spirits, g'ost and essence come here to learn while treading lightly on the fluid nature of real life? Borderline potentials ...

Is the need to "not know" seem to be expansive without thought, clue, or q*ueue (Queer lewd visions) ... naked sol as midnight shades? Thus the night of the sole as Jean's dream! Jacob's unseen partner, diabolical POV taken in sophisticated vectors ...
 
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Still ... there is excessive naivete ... as the ultimate declares ... " teach my children" minor gods of subtle nature! The powers would like us to cut out such support systems to reduce taxes ... for Hoo 'sm the Bell Tole 'd ... the unidentified, if you cannot see your way ... consequences? Surely ...
 
No he’s not. He’s a weasely Trump puppet with better vocabulary and Justin is burnt out to the point of serious incompetence - some jaw dropping problems have occurred under his watch. We like to pat ourselves on the back because maybe Canada as a whole is polite…mainstream Canada worships politeness but we’ve got some really f’d up problems and creepingly fascistic policies happening here. I’d say on Track 2 MAiD we’ve got a head start on the world stage with some pretty damning human rights abuses that are only going to result in the killing of more marginalized people so it’s time for Canadians to get off our high horses and open our eyes to what’s happening here too. It’s a bloody horrendous state of affairs.
Sure, but anyone in office, in Canada is going to be scrutinized to death. Lately that's what we do....and that's good, to a point....but not to the point that decisions can't be made to move forward. Not every decision will sit right with everyone.
 
Sure, but anyone in office, in Canada is going to be scrutinized to death. Lately that's what we do....and that's good, to a point....but not to the point that decisions can't be made to move forward. Not every decision will sit right with everyone.
Both Trudeau for another term and PP as PM are bad options. I guess PP isn’t quite as bad as Trump in that he and Justin are about equally awful options. Idk I can’t stand any of them, even NDP because none of them are stopping Track 2 MAiD. It’s a fascist policy and the Cons won’t make it less so. They will make it worse.
 
An important fundamental difference about our parliamentary system is that the PM does not have the kind of executive power a President does. He is the leader of the largest party in Parliament and holds power at their mercy. His party can dump him and if the governing party does not have a majority, Parliament can dump his government. In fact, technically a majority government could fall on a confidence vote if enough of its own MPs voted against it. It just never happens because they would potentially be voting themselves out of a job. And no impeachment trial is needed, just a simple majority vote in the House. And to get anything done, they have to put it through the House. The kind of executive power US Presidents including Trump have tried to wield with varying degrees of success just does not exist here. Even Orders in Council have limits on them and must be approved by Cabinet.

So the best way to keep a government in check is to hand them a minority and make sure there a couple strong third parties they have to work with (currently, the NDP and Bloc, with the NDP being the one currently supporting the government). There's no way the kind of executive shenanigans we see in the US can happen under such a regime.
 
Both Trudeau for another term and PP as PM are bad options. I guess PP isn’t quite as bad as Trump in that he and Justin are about equally awful options. Idk I can’t stand any of them, even NDP because none of them are stopping Track 2 MAiD. It’s a fascist policy and the Cons won’t make it less so. They will make it worse.
But what/who are the actual group or person that is actually driving that agenda? Is it only in the hands of a prime minister?
 
Listen to what the Orange Pimple is saying:
  • He has been clear about seeking revenge on his enemies. He is a vengeful person and has been in all the time he's been in the public eye
  • He has said he will take revenge on his first day in office during a recent interview with Sean Hannity.
  • He has called his enemies vermin
  • He has not said he is innocent. Instead he has attacked people like the judge(s) and his clerk
  • He is viscous when speaking of people who have tried to hold him accountable (E.Jean Carroll, the black female prosecutors, Jack Smith, the mother and daughter poll workers, etc)
  • He has called people who oppose him, lefties, etc vermin. That is a page out of strongman books. Mussolini used that language
  • He lies and projects regularly.

Read Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present by Ruth Ben Ghiat. Dr Ben Ghiat makes a good case for the Pimple being a strongman wannabe. (At least)

If you know anything about personality disorders you will see that the pimple fits solidly on the Axis II.

He is a living breathing example of what happens when you don't say no to your children. He has never once been held accountable in his life.

He is not suited to be president and never should have held that office.
I grok

I am an idealist and I want these court proceedings to follow the rule of law, no cheating in order to get 'im

Which also means people like Liz stfu until the court proceedings are over

Unfortunately I have alrady seen early on an example of cheating in ine of the depositions so I have given up in it bejng fair

I am glad you use my neologism :3 It is apt

Anyway, honesrly not coming back to this thread now. Too anxiety inducing

Have fun!
 
I grok

I am an idealist and I want these court proceedings to follow the rule of law, no cheating in order to get 'im

Which also means people like Liz stfu until the court proceedings are over

Unfortunately I have alrady seen early on an example of cheating in ine of the depositions so I have given up in it bejng fair

I am glad you use my neologism :3 It is apt

Anyway, honesrly not coming back to this thread now. Too anxiety inducing

Have fun!

Do legalism and legalist often find them selves prone to Eire being blown? It is just thought ... imagine a politicized justice system ... then we're done for regarding, freedoms, and the flatterers will suffer too ... being responsible for large concerns usually do in the overly esteemed regarding what they don't know ... they cannot observe what they don;t know without critical questioning and cynical listening talents ...

Lack of these is almost embarrassing ... if only those in the present could see what's anon (that's coming in a blind faith)! Reaper cushions ... straw piles and haystack mentality ... goats and booty? Lofted path eh ...
 
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Which also means people like Liz stfu until the court proceedings are over

I definitely disagree with Liz Cheney policies and views. She is though, standing up to the pimple. Something few others are doing. What's the problem?

Unfortunately I have alrady seen early on an example of cheating in ine of the depositions so I have given up in it bejng fair

Can you cite an example?
 
I definitely disagree with Liz Cheney policies and views. She is though, standing up to the pimple. Something few others are doing. What's the problem?



Can you cite an example?

Lies are said to be perfuse in linguistical history ... to maintain unbelievability! Tomes are thus produced in biblical stacks ...
 
Which also means people like Liz stfu until the court proceedings are over
In case you missed it, there's an election next year and he's still the frontrunner to be the GOP candidate for President and one of his rivals, De Santis, seems to think that the way to win is to out-Trump Trump. So I would say that she has every right to be speaking up given that he is an actively campaigning politician with a lot (a LOT) of question marks hanging over his head.
I definitely disagree with Liz Cheney policies and views.
Yeah, I'm not fan either but given that she's somehow avoided being brainwashed into the cult of Donald that passes for Republican Party, I can live with her.
 
In case you missed it, there's an election next year and he's still the frontrunner to be the GOP candidate for President and one of his rivals, De Santis, seems to think that the way to win is to out-Trump Trump. So I would say that she has every right to be speaking up given that he is an actively campaigning politician with a lot (a LOT) of question marks hanging over his head.

Yeah, I'm not fan either but given that she's somehow avoided being brainwashed into the cult of Donald that passes for Republican Party, I can live with her.
 
In short ... politics is a foul business ... almost like the building of edifices to things that are prone to evolution ... and love (emotions) flips into a learning game ... a gross portion would sooner not! Change is painful ...
 
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