What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

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Waterfall said:
Still think they should have started with the insurrection and stealing classified papers.
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As Northwind said, the problem is that no one is coordinating this. You have 3 or 4 separate jurisdictions each running their own investigation of one of those. To do that kind of strategizing, someone would have to be in overall charge and that simply is not happening. And if someone was in overall charge like that, Trump would probably use that against them in an appeal, arguing that the White House is coordinating a campaign against him or something.
 
Mendalla said:
As Northwind said, the problem is that no one is coordinating this. You have 3 or 4 separate jurisdictions each running their own investigation of one of those. To do that kind of strategizing, someone would have to be in overall charge and that simply is not happening. And if someone was in overall charge like that, Trump would probably use that against them in an appeal, arguing that the White House is coordinating a campaign against him or something.
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True, he does have a way with turning the focus back on the courts as the bad guy.
Sometimes I wonder if while we're now paying attention to this loudmouth with all his hot air, the general public are forgetting to pay attention to other things going on, like Desanti passing a gun law (very quietly) you can now carry a concealed gun without a permit in Florida. Or lord knows what people are missing in other states or even the White House.
 
Waterfall said:
the general public are forgetting to pay attention to other things going on
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This is a good reason to be concerned. I felt the same way when everyone was focused on Santos.

Our current defendant is getting backed into a corner. Like a classic narcissist or psychopath or whatever he's going to have tantrums. Unfortunately with him the tantrums can have uglier consequences
 
Mendalla said:
As Northwind said, the problem is that no one is coordinating this. You have 3 or 4 separate jurisdictions each running their own investigation of one of those. To do that kind of strategizing, someone would have to be in overall charge and that simply is not happening. And if someone was in overall charge like that, Trump would probably use that against them in an appeal, arguing that the White House is coordinating a campaign against him or something.
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It is religious and sacred device: separate, divine and conquer ... thus we go down ... schizoid?

The world according to schist is a type of stone thing! Schist is said to be a crazy love in some domains ...
 
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It was reported in mainstream media yesterday or late Tuesday, that Stormy Daniels was successfully sued by Trump, and has to pay $122,000 for his legal fees for her unsuccessful defamation suit. That’s almost as much as she was paid off by him. That weakens the perception of the case against him.

I also just read a CNN opinion piece claiming that Bragg took the wrong avenue to pursue Trump for his crimes. The payment to Daniels (aka Clifford) was not illegal in and of itself. If a person decides to give someone money for personal reasons, even to try to ensure they stay quiet about an affair, that’s not illegal. Affairs are not illegal. What was illegal is Trump lying about what the money was for, and claiming it was for Cohen’s legal fees. Cohen endorsed/ participated/ consulted on that move, and went to jail for it himself. To say that it was tied to his election campaign and its outcome is a weak argument, also. It might as easily been about his not wanting Melania and his kids to know about it - and fearing repercussions from them, which is not illegal or a campaign violation. It’s crappy personal behaviour toward his wife and mother of one of his kids, but it’s not illegal. It seems to me that Trump would be more worried about losing their respect and loyalty than he would be worried that he’d lose any business or political success over it - because it’s the kind of “sexy scandal” he knows how to use to his advantage and make himself the centre of attention anyway.

The problem is that there’s probably not a single politician - especially in the US (but Trudeau has done it too) - who hasn’t written off a personal expense as a business (or work related) expense. Either knowingly or inadvertently through their financial and legal advisors. Also, John Edwards was taken to task for an affair, and it didn’t amount to anything in court. I think Trump will win this. Once again, it won’t stick to him. I would like to see him held accountable for the bigger crimes. That should’ve been the main focus. Not that I’m saying what he did, re: Stormy and trying to bury hush money was okay…I just don’t think it’s a strong enough case to get him convicted.

I also read that even if he does go to jail, there’s nothing legally preventing him from being President while in jail. Because nobody thought of that…which, with the world being so weird today, I wouldn’t rule out completely. As f’d up as it is.
 
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He’s done so much wrong, and people go to jail for much less - poor inner city kids serve hard time for petty drug crimes and first time offences in the US. Trump turned the world upside down, has been a fraud his whole life, put the whole world in more danger, fomented fascism, and seems to get away with everything. It’s extremely frustrating. I just don’t have high hopes for this case.
 
Delightful Life said:
DON'T GIVE HIM AIRTIME :3
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YES!!! I noticed some people are refusing to say his name.....for what it's worth. He's also being described as a loser, a defendant etc. I'm hoping that as a well practiced narcissist, he'll have the mother of all temper tantrums and self-destruct. That's starting to happen in some ways. Not where it counts. Not to mention his temper tantrums can be dangerous.
 
Is there such a goal as to have a high criminal leadership ... this would allows the snouts in heaven theory about rooting ---HP!

Those snouts would be seekers looking where they shouldn't according to protocol of MAGA proportions ... exposure is shattering ... if you've got people that can observe ... not for blind applications ... muddies the waters! Why catfish have sensitive feelers around the tongue area ... so much to taste when at the bottom ... as hites! Also considerable trans meditation ... as things go from reality (absolute) into the abstract psyche ... and s many times we been told to lose that train of thought! Thinking is not allowed in some eras ... on this base gods do not have to think ... just emote! That's different! Builds catastrophe so as to impress the bottom levels about humility of cognates ... and thus they go ... dear departed!
 
We probably most need to watch his kind of MAGA. He sermsvro someone who needed a clear sense of identity, and found it be becoming a Trump supporter which means he might be a very nasty person.
 
Delightful Life said:
Wow

looks like there are 3 different levels of MAGA now

Fans...sheesh

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Stable Trump supporter explains the "3 levels of MAGA" (video) | Boing Boing

A red-capped gentleman kindly took time off from his busy day protesting Donald Trump’s arrest to explain the “three levels of MAGA.” According to the stable genius, there is &#82…
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How experience points do you need to advance a level? What special powers do you get at "Ultra Extreme?"

For a movement that is supposed to be a "populist" movement starting to talk in terms of hierarchies once again highlights how and why revolutions cannot succeed. In the end, the old trends and tendencies take over again.
 
The Orange Pimple sure knows how to market market market!

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Donald Trump Dropped A Hot New NYC Arrest-Centered Campaign Ad

Donald Trump is using footage of his recent arrest as fodder for a new 2024 presidential campaign ad. Which seems very Trumpy.
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If he ever gets a prison sentence I can see him making deals...Trump Hotels meet Trumprisons, for the Discerning Criminal. See our White House Wing, where Greats like Obama and both Clintons and both Bushes are pampered daily

The Torture Wing is where they are Extraextraordinarily Rendered with B. Manilow and Lady in Red cosplay
 
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