What is your favoourite Advent hymn, and why?

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I just listened to "City of God". Absolutely beautiful for any time of year. Again I'm thinking of Reign of Christ Sunday when I sometimes have trouble finding hymns to suit my message.

I also found connections to many of my favourite hymns - and had to tear myself away and come back to Wondercafe. I'll listen to them one by one when I have time.
 
I dont understand the issue of god as father

I believe Jesus is a real historical person. He was born of a mother. So if we are , as a christian church , professing that Jesus is the son of God ( snd th UCC does ) and we recognize he has a mother, who else could God be but father
 
Pardon me for the bluntness, but it is entirely possible that Mary got knocked up by Joseph in the good old-fashioned way and that the whole "conceived by the Holy Spirit" thing is just myth-making. So Joseph is his literal father and God is a metaphorical father. Which could be said of almost anyone, really.
 
Mendalla said:
Pardon me for the bluntness, but it is entirely possible that Mary got knocked up by Joseph in the good old-fashioned way and that the whole "conceived by the Holy Spirit" thing is just myth-making. So Joseph is his literal father and God is a metaphorical father. Which could be said of almost anyone, really.
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If a metaphorical father only (which is different than my own theology), it would still seem correct to use the male pronoun in speaking of him.
 
Jae said:
If a metaphorical father only (which is different than my own theology), it would still seem correct to use the male pronoun in speaking of him.
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True. However, I don't believe in a "parental" God so it's rather moot to me. The universe is genderless, containing all possible genders but being none of them, so I don't see "God", such as it is for me, as gendered.
 
Mendalla said:
Pardon me for the bluntness, but it is entirely possible that Mary got knocked up by Joseph in the good old-fashioned way and that the whole "conceived by the Holy Spirit" thing is just myth-making. So Joseph is his literal father and God is a metaphorical father. Which could be said of almost anyone, really.
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Or a Roman soldier named Panthera, as the Jews believe.
 
Mendalla said:
Pardon me for the bluntness, but it is entirely possible that Mary got knocked up by Joseph in the good old-fashioned way and that the whole "conceived by the Holy Spirit" thing is just myth-making. So Joseph is his literal father and God is a metaphorical father. Which could be said of almost anyone, really.
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You are, of course, pardoned, but since we're speaking of Christian hymnology it is the orthodox Christian view that Mary was not "knocked up" by Joseph, but that the conception came about as a result of a miracle. That's certainly my view.
 
Why would a metaphorical parent be gendered? Is there something essentially different about the way that the genders parent?
 
BetteTheRed said:
Why would a metaphorical parent be gendered? Is there something essentially different about the way that the genders parent?
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Even in our postmodern times Bette, it takes a male and a female to make a baby. Certainly back in Jesus' day.
 
revsdd said:
You are, of course, pardoned, but since we're speaking of Christian hymnology it is the orthodox Christian view that Mary was not "knocked up" by Joseph, but that the conception came about as a result of a miracle. That's certainly my view.
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So if the fully human Jesus were the product of a female ovum and a divine something, how could the resulting zygote be fully human?

If you're man-god-ing this, that's fine, but trying to cram full humanity is a unscientific stretch.
 
BetteTheRed said:
So if the fully human Jesus were the product of a female ovum and a divine something, how could the resulting zygote be fully human?

If you're man-god-ing this, that's fine, but trying to cram full humanity is a unscientific stretch.
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God's beyond science.
 
Okay, too far off track and I am as guilty as any. An advent hymn as a reminder of where this should be:

 
Tabitha said:
I was there to hear your borning cry

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Tabitha, I just listened to this beautiful rendition of this great hymn. It is one of my favourites, and I hope to have it sung at my funeral. It's very meaaningful to me to heaar and know that God was with me through all the stages of my life since birth, and that God will still be with me in the end of my life.
But with all due respect I don't see this as an Advent hymn. I would have to see how it related to the rest of the seervice to understand why it was chosen at this particular season of the year.
 
seeler-our advent theme this year is Birth.(and also re-birth). The bringing forth of new. Inspired by Nancy Reeves advent midwife reflection.
 
Tabitha said:
seeler-our advent theme this year is Birth.(and also re-birth). The bringing forth of new. Inspired by Nancy Reeves advent midwife reflection.
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OK, I see the connection with the hymn "I Was There to Hear Your Borning Cry".
 
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