What does the Bible mean that we are not to judge others?

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Some people may want to limit the 'Spirit' to Christians, but I prefer what Jesus had to say: “The pneuma/Spirit/wind blows wherever it pleases” (John 3.8). For instance @chansen often demonstrates the fruit of the spirit whether he invites it or not.
 
I don't want to be associated with "the fruit of the spirit", especially when the people who most insist they are guided by the same spirit can be such a**holes.
 
The Spirit’s work may indeed be ambiguous in the world, not often being recognized by those in whom or around whom the spirit works, but the spirit's work is also ambiguous in the 'Church' (parahrasing Hendrikus Berkhof)
 
I'd like to know how researching the Bible for different images of God and incorporating them in a portrait of God is mockery or disrespectful.

Father, mother, shepherd/trusted guide, housewife, lover, sibling.

We're putting on an intergenerational workshop including a meal, (and a skit between God and a Seeker where I'm God because despite repeated prayer, no God tapped on my shoulder and said, "hey, I'll play myself") whose purpose is to end up with a written or visual personal faith statement - a touchstone - to which we can refer in times of challenge.

I have a much more organic and reality-rooted vision of divinity than you do, unsafe, but it doesn't make me wrong and you right.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I'd like to know how researching the Bible for different images of God and incorporating them in a portrait of God is mockery or disrespectful.

Father, mother, shepherd/trusted guide, housewife, lover, sibling.

We're putting on an intergenerational workshop including a meal, (and a skit between God and a Seeker where I'm God because despite repeated prayer, no God tapped on my shoulder and said, "hey, I'll play myself") whose purpose is to end up with a written or visual personal faith statement - a touchstone - to which we can refer in times of challenge.

I have a much more organic and reality-rooted vision of divinity than you do, unsafe, but it doesn't make me wrong and you right.
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It will be a great experience....I see you as qualified for the role.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I'd like to know how researching the Bible for different images of God and incorporating them in a portrait of God is mockery or disrespectful.

Father, mother, shepherd/trusted guide, housewife, lover, sibling.
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But isn't that the problem right there? You're looking for images of God other than the one approved by the person accusing you of mocking God.
 
What does the Bible mean that we are not to judge others?

I don't know, but going by the posts here, it's a matter of interpretation.

What concerns me more is what Jesus meant about not judging others? I don't know that either, only Jesus could answer that. So, once again, it's a matter of interpretation only - not a fact.

A more realistic question is how do you, as an individual, interpret the question on not judging others?
I think it's preferable to know a person's personal history before I pass judgement, but that isn't always forthcoming.

Whenever I make a negative judgement about a person, I feel as though I have let myself down, as much as the person concerned. It's a gut feeling, that I've learnt to pay attention to.......
Another observation is that I'm constantly judging others, almost as if I've been programmed to.

Sooo, methinks it would be better for me -and for others - if my judgements of others are kind.
It's a work in progress........
 
Mendalla said:
But isn't that the problem right there? You're looking for images of God other than the one approved by the person accusing you of mocking God.
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Except that I got all of those images out of the book she'd disfigure into a handgun. There's not a lot sexier than the relationship between divinity and humanity than the Song of Songs, sometimes the bridegroom, sometimes the bride. (Some of the metaphors are a little hard to comprehend several millennia later, but the gist is there...)
 
BetteTheRed---your quote -----Except that I got all of those images out of the book she'd disfigure into a handgun.


unsafe says ---and this is what the Bible in the shape of the gun represented -----which is the truth -----it is you people who took the picture and made it represent the world's way of thinking -----you twisted what the real meaning is ----and used it to suit your own agenda ----


What Good is the Word of God?
The Word of God is a Powerful Weapon
The Word of God is a Powerful Weapon to Fight against Satan

Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;


In order to fight against Satan, we must take unto us "the whole armor of God." Our loins must be girt about with truth and Jesus is "the way, the truth, and the life." (John 14:6) Jesus is the truth, and Jesus is the Word of God. We must be girt about with the Word of God. Jeremiah 23:5-6 speaks of Jehovah God raising up "a righteous Branch" who will be called, " THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS."


Jesus Christ is the Branch; He is our righteousness; He is the Word of God. Our breastplate must be that of the righteous Word of God. Our feet must be shod with the gospel of peace. The gospel is the Word of God. We need faith in God to shield us from the enemy. Romans 10:17 says that "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Our defensive weapon is dependent upon the Word of God. We cannot put on the helmet of salvation without acceptingJesus Christ, the Word of God, as our Savior. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" Acts 16:31. And, of course, the sword of the Spirit, is the Word of God.


So, what good is the Word of God?



The Word of God is our only weapon against Satan. The Word of God protects our vital organs (spiritually speaking). It protects our hearts and our emotions, and protects us as we walk with God. The Word of God protects us from the onslaughts of Satan and protects our minds from his wicked thoughts. The Word of God is our offensive weapon to aggressively fight against spiritual wickedness. But, how do we fight against Satan if we don’t know the Word of God?

It’s impossible!

Jesus, Himself, was our example when He used "the whole armour of God," the holy Word of God, to fight against Satan when He said, "Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." Luke 4:8



When we know the Word of God, we learn that we are "heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ" Romans 8:17, and that we should "put...on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof." Romans 13:14. We also learn that we are supposed to present our "bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God," which is our reasonable service, and we should not be "conformed to this world: but be...transformed by the renewing" of our mind, that we "may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Romans 12:1.


But, how can we do that if we don’t know Jesus Christ? And how can we know Him if we don’t know the Word of God?
 
unsafe said:
unsafe says ---and this is what the Bible in the shape of the gun represented -----which is the truth -----it is you people who took the picture and made it represent the world's way of thinking -----you twisted what the real meaning is ----and used it to suit your own agenda ----
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I don't see anything about guns in the passage you quoted. I fail to see your point. It seems to me you are the one twisting scripture to suit your agenda.
 
unsafe said:
and this is what the Bible in the shape of the gun represented -----which is the truth -----it is you people who took the picture and made it represent the world's way of thinking -----you twisted what the real meaning is ----and used it to suit your own agenda ----
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A gun represents truth? That's not remotely believable. A gun represents a threat. You use the bible to threaten people. In that way, your image was spot on. You use the bible like a weapon.
 
The images of God that fly around here are very disturbing in my opinion ----using words like goddie with a small g is very disrespectful to God in my view it shows no respect at all for our Creator -----talking about the Holy Spirit as an it - flying around like the wind landing on sinners who refuse to repent saying everyone and everything it decides to land on is saved ---is the worst --disgusting --degrading thing ever said ----and people calling themselves Christians when they are not is appalling --- Twisting scripture to suit their own Religious Beliefs is another one ----and using the Love of God as an escape from eternal death ----and the list goes on ----

These are far worse than a picture of the Bible in the shape of a gun ----- which is showing how powerful the word of God is in fighting off Satan and His demons -----
 
Redbaron said:
Somehow I doubt Satan will be daunted by a KJV carved into a handgun.
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It is certainly good to have a humorous twist on this whole matter. :ROFLMAO:

I am personally done with trying to engage unsafe in conversation. I have made considerable effort in the past to seek common ground and to interact meaningfully with her. The result of these efforts has been her judgement that I am not a true believer. So I am done. Done.

Unfortunately the Ignore function here has some serious limitations. Otherwise I would use it for @unsafe and her posts.
 
paradox3 said:
I am personally done with trying to engage unsafe in conversation. I have made considerable effort in the past to seek common ground and to interact meaningfully with her. The result of these efforts has been her judgement that I am not a true believer. So I am done. Done.
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I sometimes wonder what would happen if I blindly agreed with her posts. I frankly doubt it would be different because she has cast her judgements firmly. I only wish unsafe happiness because she does not seem to be a happy person to me. Of course I'm making huge assumptions here.
 
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