What Defines A Born Again Person ?-----

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Often the change's quiet and gradual
My change was immediate and profound ------I right away saw things different ---l felt different ---I felt a peace in my body and mind that I had never felt before ----- it was like a veil was lifted from my eyes and mind ---I felt lighter like a weight had been lifted from me ----My personality did a complete 180 turn ----

My Brother had a similar experience he said ---when he received Christ ------

There will be an inner change ---whether it is slow or immediate ----if there is no inner change in the person then they are not Born Again -------
 
For me, the interesting question's what it means that God knew us before we were born.
Well Jaebius ---if you would do some research and get a study Bible you just might find some things out -----that you think are mysteries -----

God wants us to understand His word ----but we need to ask the Holy Spirit to help us uncover some of the Mysteries we think are in Scripture -----do some work -----there Jaebius ---


Jeremiah 1:5 ►

Jeremiah 1:5 ►

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you as a prophet to the nations."
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“Before I formed you in the womb

God declared that Jeremiah’s life began in His purposeful design, not by accident or human will alone. The Lord who formed Adam from the dust also formed Jeremiah with intention, affirming His sovereign care over life in the womb (Psalm 139:13–16).

Psa 139:13-16 For You formed my inmost being; You knit me together…
Isa 44:2 This is the word of the LORD, your Maker…
Job 31:15 Did not He who made me in the womb also make them?…

I knew you,

God’s knowledge of Jeremiah was personal, covenantal, and purposeful. Jeremiah did not exist before his conception, but God eternally knew him and ordained his place in the unfolding history of redemption.


Rom 8:29 For those God foreknew, He also predestined…
2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s firm foundation stands…
Amo 3:2 Only you have I known from all the families of the earth;…

and before you were born I set you apart

Jeremiah was consecrated by God for a holy calling before he could perform any service or make any response. His appointment reflects Israel’s calling as a people set apart for the Lord and anticipates the calling of all believers to belong to God and serve His purposes (Ex. 19:5–6; 1 Pet. 2:9).

Gal 1:15 But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb…
Jdg 13:5 For behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son.…
Isa 49:1 Listen to Me, O islands; pay attention, O distant peoples:…

and appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

Jeremiah would proclaim God’s word not only to Judah but also concerning surrounding kingdoms and empires. His ministry announced both judgment and future restoration, revealing that the Lord rules over every nation. Jeremiah’s costly faithfulness amid rejection and suffering points forward to Christ, the final and perfect spokesman of God, whose message would be carried to all nations.

Jer 46:1 This is the word of the LORD about the nations…
Deu 18:18-19 I will raise up for them a prophet like you…
Isa 49:6 “It is not enough for You to be My Servant,”…
 
My change was immediate and profound ------I right away saw things different ---l felt different ---I felt a peace in my body and mind that I had never felt before ----- it was like a veil was lifted from my eyes and mind ---I felt lighter like a weight had been lifted from me ----My personality did a complete 180 turn ----

My Brother had a similar experience he said ---when he received Christ ------

There will be an inner change ---whether it is slow or immediate ----if there is no inner change in the person then they are not Born Again -------
Scripture doesn't teach, unsafe, that everyone's conversion experience must look the same. God's the master artist. He doesn't paint every life with the same brushstroke.

Some people experience a dramatic and immediate change as you and your brother did. Most of us come to faith more gradually.

Regeneration's always God's supernatural work. That work's experience varies greatly from person to person. Some feel an overwhelming peace or joy instantly. Most only recognize the change clearly when we look back months or even years later
 
Most only recognize the change clearly when we look back months or even years later
How do you know what Most experience ---- their Jaebius -----I think your just giving your own opinion or your own experience with that statement --and that is my opinion ----
 
How do you know what Most experience ---- their Jaebius -----I think your just giving your own opinion or your own experience with that statement --and that is my opinion ----
Usually, unsafe, we only truly recognize God's work when we look back and realize our desires, attitudes and priorities have been changed over time.

My point was to express that most Christians gain a clearer appreciation of God's work in their lives through reflection on what He's done over months and years.

It's fair for us both to distinguish between what Scripture teaches, what we've personally experienced and what we've observed in other believers
 
Can we truly see God's work when we have blind faith ... especially if the character believes they can do it all alone?

There is only one thing that can be done alone ... and that's learning company and connection is critical when out of it ... as when one wobbles too far to one extreme or the other in the great opening ... a holy, sacred place? Eire? Beyond the corruption of the imperfect ...

It is something like unreal, surreal ... up there! It is a complicated metaphor because of the Din of chaos it leaves ...

There are 2 things Einstein said he knew; the universe and stupidity were infinite ... he was uncertain about the first and he was sure about what mortals knowledge ... because that's incomplete! In double entendre: "we're not all there yet!" Questions ... especially about how the story must go on as mortals never grasp ideas firmly ... they hate to know! Some say the mind is the essence of the story as projected tincture ... adequate medicine? Di vine material ... d' vinyl copy ... malleable ... steroidal, or chiral!

Alas no one hears or sees due to imperfections ... so it comes round again ... until you're out of it ... as a Sunday Morning ... or a fiddling journey to GEO Ghia to gather dirt ... sacrilege? There are other words ... other than fouled ... as some say when the emotions are gritty ...

Again; 2 things I know ... and one is indeterminate as of that we are certain the edge is beyond us ... the love of earth and the base ... some say Ba's ... it can go on a long time after the activity is over ...
 
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Is hatching a hard shell the same as birth (orthodox) or different (heterodox)? That may cause a split in the doppelganger so one can step beyond and look back ... then does a tree of wisdom house rooks? Mother nature's messengers ... caw'd off guard ... really makes me question any thing that is said to be firmed in nihilism ... what goes? Does it give ...

Let the land be laid to waste ... prodigal eh! Cultivation? Too much like intellect and learning ... and preparing for another stage ... layer of sadness? Thus whines and sad songs in spirit ...
 
I apologize for being late.

You know there is sacred code there somewhere ... that neither is aware of in their one way version of the Golden Rule that baffled Pharisees and Sadducees and bought the Hedonist down on his head for just the fun of t ... mortal power and life is brutal! Then that calm dark pool ... resembles a night ... out there!

Dissipated, Dad used to call it ... like splattered all over by the strain ... that's the information and dirt!
 
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