What Are The Building Blocks Of Our Faith ?

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airclean33 said:
It was GOD who raised Jesus from the dead.
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[FONT=Open Sans, sans-serif]Agreed with your belief.[/FONT]

airclean33 said:
It was GOD who gave Jesus all the authority He has.
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Agreed.

airclean33 said:
SO ALL GLORY IS GODS
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Agreed.

airclean33 said:
I don't think Jesus would have it any other way.
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Agreed.

airclean33 said:
Jhn 5:19Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing; for whatever he does, that the Son does likewise.
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Yes - I believe it speaks of the obedience of God the Son to God the Father.
 
airclean33 said:
As for "1 Cor15:--28," I do not know what Scripture you are referring to here (do you mean 1 Corinthians 15:28?), and thus I cannot comment on it.

Yes Jae.
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Here I like what Kretzmann says in his Popular Commentary (emphasis mine)...

"And incidentally the Son will then subject Himself to the Father, not as subordinated to Him in essence, but in the free submission of love. In all the works of His office as Redeemer, He was loyal to His Father in perfect obedience, and now the Son, in His Sonship, subjects Himself to His Father, as Father, that God may be all, the one object of praise, glory, and adoration, in all, the believers giving Him the joyful reverence of their blessedness, and the unbelievers and all other creatures bowing before Him as the supreme Lord. Mark: These words in no way teach the inferiority of the Son to the Father in essence: on the contrary, the absolute unity in the distinction of persons stands out all the more clearly and conspicuously."
 
Pr. Jae said:
Here I like what Kretzmann says in his Popular Commentary (emphasis mine)...

"And incidentally the Son will then subject Himself to the Father, not as subordinated to Him in essence, but in the free submission of love. In all the works of His office as Redeemer, He was loyal to His Father in perfect obedience, and now the Son, in His Sonship, subjects Himself to His Father, as Father, that God may be all, the one object of praise, glory, and adoration, in all, the believers giving Him the joyful reverence of their blessedness, and the unbelievers and all other creatures bowing before Him as the supreme Lord. Mark: These words in no way teach the inferiority of the Son to the Father in essence: on the contrary, the absolute unity in the distinction of persons stands out all the more clearly and conspicuously."
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Hi Jae-- We humans are always trying to think" GOD into a man. We Have a great GOD Jae . Much more than I can understand. I thank GOD for sending us His Holy Spirit . To help and teach the Way . GOD Bless Brother. airclean33--Gord.
 
An delight fell into the formless darkness ... where it came from in the first place as the co-incidental compatriots collapsed ... exhausted?
 
BetteTheRed said:
I sincerely hope so. I think the building blocks of faith have long crumbled to dust.
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Thus spaketh Bettethustra

(N after 1 uses the ladder to get to the goal one must pick up the ladder n put it away lest one confuse the ladder with the goal)
 
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God Kind of building Block Faith requires us to climb down the latter to reach the Goal -----God's Latter is in place all the time it is never put away ---it is us humans who confuse the latter with the goal ----the latter is not the problem --we humans are ------we use it to climb up to reach the goal ---2 worlds who think different about how to reach the goal in life ----which is more important to achieve is the question ---that is what each person has to answer for themselves ---we are all going to die one day -----climbing up the latter to reach the goal lasts only for a time ---the time we are here on this earth ----climbing down the latter to reach the goal is for both here and now and after we die -----which latter will we choose is all up to us ------the latter is always there it never moves -----

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Neo said:
Don't you mean the Ladder Day Saints?
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I think somehow it's all connected to Jacob's latter.

We are climbing Jacob's latter,
We are climbing Jacob's latter,
We are climbing Jacob's latter,
Soldiers of the cross.
 
Pr. Jae said:
I think somehow it's all connected to Jacob's latter.

We are climbing Jacob's latter,
We are climbing Jacob's latter,
We are climbing Jacob's latter,
Soldiers of the cross.
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I think it's all connected to Webster.
 
airclean33 said:
To Neo---your post--
Our job, as human beings, is to also discover this God-Aware-Self within us. In this way God manifests through a human being, producing Heaven on Earth where the twain becomes One and the serpent of the polar opposites is put to rest for ever. Do you see? Or is that too much?

--airclean--post--Neo this is a proof in GODS word that shows He is bring Heaven to earth. If your going to be hear for the 1000 year rain, of Christ Jesus on earth, you will get to see it. Rev 20:-1--6

Rev 20:6Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev21--All of.
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Hearing a thousand years of rain sounds pretty depressing Airclean. {wink} {wink}

But seriously, "casting satan, the dragon, down and binding him and sealing him into an abyss" could also mean the raising of our awareness above the evil (of matter). Think about this, as we rise the things of the world appear to descend. The symbolism of John's vision is very strange and really should not be taken at it's face value. The Book of Revelation is rich in metaphor, figures of speech that are not meant to be taken literally.

Have you ever read any of the Labours of Hercules? This is another story of allegory and symbolism.

In the 8th labour Hercules also fights the dragon, the nine headed hydra of Lerna. See http://www.souledout.org/hercules/herculesscorpio/hercscorpmythaab.html for a good read. Know before your read it that the 12 labours Hercules performed represents Hercules' passage through the 12 signs of the Zodiac in an "anti-clockwise" direction, e.g. from Aries to Pisces via Taurus. Most people traverses the Zodiac in a "clock-wise" direction, e.g. from Aries to Taurus via Pisces. This difference in direction is the difference between an ordinary person and an initiate upon "the way".

Hercules was warned before starting his 8th labour that if he cut off one head of the dragon, two more would grow in it's place. And only through by kneeling (humility) and raising the dragon high above his head (into the plane of the mind and spirit, the air, wind and sunlight) could he defeat the beast. Each of the nine heads represents a different vice that Hercules had to overcome in his labours: 3 physical vices (sex, comfort, money), 3 emotional vices (fear, hatred and desire), and 3 mental vices (pride, separateness and cruelty). All of which had to be raised into a higher realm before the labour was completed. Attacking any one of these vices with conventional means only made them stronger. He had to find another way.

In the end, after raising the dragon above his head, into the air and the sunlight, the hydra falls limp. Only then does Hercules see the 10th head: an immortal and mystic head. Hercules then "cut off the hydra's one immortal head and buried it, still fiercely hissing, beneath a rock". Much like the hero of Revelations who binds the serpent with a chain and seals it in an abyss for a thousand years.

Anyways, I only mention this story to change the pace of the thread a little. The story of Hercules is the story of the human soul and is as applicable today in our modern world as it was way back when. We have the same lessons to learn now as Hercules did in his labours, and especially in this, his 8th labour of Scorpio.

Cheers.
 
Inannawhimsey said:
Thus spaketh Bettethustra

(N after 1 uses the ladder to get to the goal one must pick up the ladder n put it away lest one confuse the ladder with the goal)
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Thus Jake's ladder nun sense ... to a degree of "n"! A hike on Eire or in arias unknown ... should 've bin writ while in the whole ...

Now we're just parts ... stern sects ... can bring you down after the TGIF thingy ... when the Seder incidents occur ... and in Christianity we shifted the hangers on to Sunday Mourning and hangovers ...
 
unsafe said:
God Kind of building Block Faith requires us to climb down the latter to reach the Goal -----God's Latter is in place all the time it is never put away ---it is us humans who confuse the latter with the goal ----the latter is not the problem --we humans are ------we use it to climb up to reach the goal ---2 worlds who think different about how to reach the goal in life ----which is more important to achieve is the question ---that is what each person has to answer for themselves ---we are all going to die one day -----climbing up the latter to reach the goal lasts only for a time ---the time we are here on this earth ----climbing down the latter to reach the goal is for both here and now and after we die -----which latter will we choose is all up to us ------the latter is always there it never moves -----

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That is a subtle message as the satyr buried there ...
 
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