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My daughter who deals with genetic stuff in the environment field ... wonders why people search for a single cause when genes are complex interactions and all wrapped up inside themselves ... thus they don't get out much except when split up in extraordinary crises .. usually under cover of night ... or other surroundings ... some say these type of surroundings are a hoax ... thus those that cannot see strange things are like walking about blindly ... can you imagine such abstract hues?
 
Luce NDs said:
wonders why people search for a single cause when genes are complex interactions
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Many, perhaps most, people don't like complexity, Luce. We see that in things like ethics and religion, too. People want it all simple and spelled out in black and white. When something is multifactorial (say, many cancers, which have both genetic and environmental components) it complicates things in ways that make people uncomfortable because they can't just point to A or B and say "this did it".
 
wonders why people search for a single cause when genes are complex interactions

"Many, perhaps most, people don't like complexity"

Does this mean complexity and the indeterminate don't exist? And here I have long considered God Complex and unknown to the bulk of the mess we're in ...

However there is the Hoax Theorem, just for mortal BS! Doesn't that trumpet all ...
 
Further ... I am familiar with stuff of mind that many would rather consider ... source-Eire ...

Conjured from unheard of experiences ...
 
Luce NDs said:
Does this mean complexity and the indeterminate don't exist?
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Of course not. They most certainly do. In fact, that is the nature of existence, whether people like it or not. And there are those, like myself, who relish that. Exploring and discovering the infinite complexity of existence is a joy.
 
And, once again, science shows us the universe being freakin' awesome!

https://gizmodo.com/observatories-a...839.125266536.1507678255-590733612.1507678254

The initial discovery of gravity waves proved Einstein right again and opened the door to a new way of observing the universe. It rightly earned a Nobel. Now we're into actually doing the observing and, damn, what a find. A gamma ray burst that exactly matches observed gravity waves, all matching the predicted observations for two neutron stars colliding. Which, some scientists think, is where heavy elements like uranium come from.

And it is stuff like this that makes me believe that if there is a God who is Creator of all this, that God is not some petty legalistic tyrant, but a being awesome beyond our wildest imaginings; beyond even our ability to imagine.
 
Mendalla said:
And, once again, science shows us the universe being freakin' awesome!

https://gizmodo.com/observatories-a...839.125266536.1507678255-590733612.1507678254

The initial discovery of gravity waves proved Einstein right again and opened the door to a new way of observing the universe. It rightly earned a Nobel. Now we're into actually doing the observing and, damn, what a find. A gamma ray burst that exactly matches observed gravity waves, all matching the predicted observations for two neutron stars colliding. Which, some scientists think, is where heavy elements like uranium come from.

And it is stuff like this that makes me believe that if there is a God who is Creator of all this, that God is not some petty legalistic tyrant, but a being awesome beyond our wildest imaginings; beyond even our ability to imagine.
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God appears to be certainly wide spread ...perhaps a different creationist (artist) than those hidden away in the depths and darkness of the human sol ... sort of like natural philosophy vs. ontological ethics or either source! Tis something that needs to be dug ... some dig it, some don't ... thus much remains subtle ... lesser under stood?
 
This "is" cool science, we are opening a window to measuring the Universe that wasn't there yesterday. It's also proving that some of our theoretical physics is being proven. That in itself is important.

And yea, the idea that the "God of Everything" is egotiscal, vain or cruel enough to cast us into some unrealistic hell because of our transgressions or perhaps because we chose a different religion in our life is simply ... ridiculous.
 
we are opening a window to measuring the Universe that wasn't there yesterday

I thought this all happened some 100,000 light years or so ago ... as time flies ... quite lightly some say!

I'D say a grand illustration of godly latent Ness ... sort of like doped ought's (some say aught-not's) in the silica devices treated with selenium and gallium ... what some scientific philosophers like to refer to as electron holes... dark spots instead of photo genesis?

The beginning creeps on ... an outside jest because of uncertainty and exclusion theory ... rejection causes much denial and depression in the "U" of Kubler-Ross ... still there remain great isolationists meaning to be forst or last but not of the medium itself ... the means to ends despise thinking mediums that go on and on ...

Thus mortal sol expands intuit ... sometime inferred sometimes opposing ... do you know the antonym?
 
Mendalla said:
And, once again, science shows us the universe being freakin' awesome!

https://gizmodo.com/observatories-a...839.125266536.1507678255-590733612.1507678254

The initial discovery of gravity waves proved Einstein right again and opened the door to a new way of observing the universe. It rightly earned a Nobel. Now we're into actually doing the observing and, damn, what a find. A gamma ray burst that exactly matches observed gravity waves, all matching the predicted observations for two neutron stars colliding. Which, some scientists think, is where heavy elements like uranium come from.

And it is stuff like this that makes me believe that if there is a God who is Creator of all this, that God is not some petty legalistic tyrant, but a being awesome beyond our wildest imaginings; beyond even our ability to imagine.
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Still processing this one :3
Amazing what we human beings have achieved
What wonders r ahead of us
 
There are stranger things under the midnight ...

Shades of unknowns? Fearful or just some interesting as they are so far away in the past ... 100 M Light Years of fluff? Nebulous!
 
4 the xtrememe science geeks here:
Mass "is" a behaviour
"Not" a property
Hf Mindblow (and soooo many connexions dropping loose from dualism to epistemology to substances 2 spirit..."u look like u lost weight." "why ty. I lost some of my immaterial process that accelerates in a 1 G field...")

How Matter Lost Its Mojo
 
I've been watching a Nova that encapsulates a lot of what I like about science. It's called, rather dramatically, "Killer Volcanoes" but it's not quite as dramatic as it sounds. What it really is, is a detective story involving multiple disciplines. It breaks down kind of like this:
  • Archaeologists discover mysterious mass graves in London, England, suggesting some kind of mass die off around the 13th century. They are from a century before the plague reached Europe so they rule that out right away.
  • An old history book from that era reveals that there was a famine in 1258 that killed a large number of people. That explains the graves but where did the famine come from? The description talks about extreme cold being the cause, suggesting a "year without a summer" like the one caused by the volcanic eruption of Mount Tambora in Indonesia in the early nineteenth century. But there is no known eruption corresponding to that timeline.
  • Ice cores collected on the Greenland ice sheet show a spike in atmospheric sulphur dioxide in 1258 along with particles of volcanic ash. So now we know that there was an eruption around that time, probably late in 1257 given the time needed for volcanic ejecta to spread around the globe.
  • Similar findings in ice cores from the Antarctic shows that both hemispheres were affected. That means an equatorial volcano. Indonesia, with its high density of volcanoes, becomes the prime suspect.
  • Volcanologists studying satellite images to try to find previously unknown volcanoes (since no known ones fit) notice a massive caldera on one island. A caldera is the result of a volcano collapsing in on itself during an eruption.
  • A history written in Javanese script assigns a name to the collapsed volcano and seems to put it in roughly the right timeframe, but it isn't considered reliable since the book also contains some myths and legends and the eruption described could be one of those.
  • Visiting the island, the volcanologists find that the size of the caldera and the amount of pumice covering the island suggests the eruption that created the caldera was big enough to be the one that caused the famine and the sulphur spike.
  • Finally, radiocarbon dating of charred wood from the eruption shows it did take place in the proper time frame (latter half of the 13th century) and the ash from it is a 99% chemical match for the ash found in Greenland, enough to say they are from the same eruption. Smoking gun.
Killer Volcanoes — NOVA | PBS is the website for the episode but the episode itself can't be streamed in Canada yet. Nova does usually turn up on Netflix Canada but not until the season is over.
 
Didja hear aboot the one where two scientists for around 30 s got intensely scared at a discovery...
And then were relieved when they found out that what they feared was impossible?

Quark bomb does sound quite Science Fictional
ENGAGE REALITY RAY!!!

*pseudoscience -- including womens' studies, homopathy and stock market prediction -- screams and withers*
 
Couldn't let this one slide by. Humanity has made it's first confirmed observation of an object from outside our solar system. While scientists have suspected for some time that asteroids drifting through interstellar space must come through the solar system from time to time (one a year was one estimate), this oddly shaped space rock is the first one we have actually seen and studied.

Fly-By of Interstellar Asteroid Portends Quadrillion Trillion More in Galaxy

And there are also theories that there could be actual planets drifting through space as well but we haven't seen any of those yet.
 
Mendalla said:
Couldn't let this one slide by. Humanity has made it's first confirmed observation of an object from outside our solar system. While scientists have suspected for some time that asteroids drifting through interstellar space must come through the solar system from time to time (one a year was one estimate), this oddly shaped space rock is the first one we have actually seen and studied.

Fly-By of Interstellar Asteroid Portends Quadrillion Trillion More in Galaxy

And there are also theories that there could be actual planets drifting through space as well but we haven't seen any of those yet.
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Read that too, thought it sort of reminded me of the "Black Knight" supposedly circling the earth.

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