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If they were ... It was because Trump was too big a risk to take for the Dems to loose because of Bernie. If Mitt Romney had been the GOP candidate - or almost anyone else but Trump - I doubt that would've happened. I bet even Bernie realizes this, and thus, has let it go.

Trump is the wildcard here. No pun intended. The world cannot afford him to be leader.
 
Kimmio said:
If they were ... It was because Trump was too big a risk to take for the Dems to loose because of Bernie. If Mitt Romney had been the GOP candidate - or almost anyone else but Trump - I doubt that would've happened.

Trump is the wildcard here. No pun intended. The world cannot afford him to be leader.
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So you're blaming Trump because people on Clinton's side rigged the primaries against Bernie and in favor of Clinton. Right, sure, that makes sense.
 
Pr. Jae said:
So you're blaming Trump because people on Clinton's side rigged the primaries against Bernie and in favor of Clinton. Right, sure, that makes sense.
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It does. If that were not the case, I think Bernie himself would've contested/ voiced stronger opposition to what happened. But I think even he realizes, despite Hillary's shortcomings, that Trump is much more dangerous and unqualified. Sanders knew he didn't have the Dem base and it was becoming clearer that he would not win enough delegates. He was not a shoe-in regardless of the DNC shannanigans. He was more of a gamble for the base than Hillary. And Trump is too big a risk. They knew that and he probably knew it. He went far but not far enough. He did make some dents in the establishment though. He made progress. Sanders would be better off to keep pushing for some of his platform ideas from another position (Senate? Congress?) within the government - and perhaps he can sue or seek reparations from the DNC later - but if Trump is president that would be a major disaster. He's too smart to make a big fuss now.
 
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Kimmio said:
It does. If that were not the case, I think Bernie himself would've contested/ voiced stronger opposition to what happened. But I think even he realizes, despite Hillary's shortcomings, that Trump is much more dangerous and unqualified. Sanders knew he didn't have the Dem base and it was becoming clearer that he would not win enough delegates. He was not a shoe-in regardless of the DNC shannanigans. He was more of a gamble for the base than Hillary. And Trump is too big a risk. They knew that and he probably knew it. He went far but not far enough. He did make some dents in the establishment though. He made progress. Sanders would be better off to keep pushing for some of his platform ideas from another position (Senate? Congress?) within the government - and perhaps he can sue or seek reparations from the DNC later - but if Trump is president that would be a major disaster. He's too smart to make a big fuss now.
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Uh huh. How does any of that make the "shannanigans" (because let's all pretend it's all fun and games instead of a serious breach of protocol) Trump's fault? No. The ones to blame for rigging the Democratic primaries are supporters of Clinton's. She, of course, had nothing to do with it.
 
the DNC was responsible. What Hillary had to do with it was by the simple fact that she was the more qualified candidate with a delegate lead on Sanders, and a big enough lead with voters. The Dems could not afford to split the vote or end up having a contested nomination and lose to Trump in the confusion of that - because Trump is too frickin dangerous for their country and the world. It was a case of "better to seek forgiveness than permission" that I don't think would've happened if someone like Romney or even Jeb Bush or Paul Ryan had been a leading GOP candidate...or even Cruz. But Trump has managed to bring out all the ire and simmering anger of the disenchanted, and channel it into some really ugly behaviour - including racism, sexism, and dangerous foreign policy...and Bernie also wants to help make sure Trump is not president because not ruining the country and turning the whole world into chaos is rather more important than Bernie's own pride, and vindication by the pissed off Bernie or Busters. But Trump does not think that way.
 
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The U.S. already has the most disastrous foreign policy ever. The desruction of the middle east order has endangered the world more than other other single act in the history of warfare. And they daily make it worse. It was the policy of Bush, Obama, and now of Clinton. And it's leading us straight into the final disaster - a world nuclear war. There are now at least three flash points for such a war. Clinton is the choice of big oil and other corporations to conquer the world.
This was all written up by the gang that brought Bush to power in 2000, It;s all written up in The Project for the New American Century. And it's operating method is the philosophy of American Exceptionalism meaning the law does not apply to the U.S.
Much as I dislike Trump,Clinton is an equal disaster.
In the process, we have slipped into another disaster. We are no longer ruled by governments. a small number of billionaires own all our governments. We are back in the middle ages, ruled by aristocrats.
 
Pr. Jae said:
Uh huh. How does any of that make the "shannanigans" (because let's all pretend it's all fun and games instead of a serious breach of protocol) Trump's fault? No. The ones to blame for rigging the Democratic primaries are supporters of Clinton's. She, of course, had nothing to do with it.
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Remember that Kimmio thinks that sexism against men is alright because men have been in power too long...
So her morality is questionable
She makes up words
She when discussing something brings in so many concepts that it is difficult to find the actual discussion
So its no surprise that she is ok with the DNC breaking the law and moral law...
Her anxiety must be assuaged but it can't be. Society causes her didability. Other sex workers cause all sex workers to be oppressed. Dying with dignity will lead us to send her to the ovens. I wonder just how far she'd go to deal with her anxiety? How far would she cheat lie steal commit violence? She does generate a lot of copy.
Ahh who knows. Its late and am still glad she's a friend.
Life is too serious to be serious.
And so it goes.
 
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Inannawhimsey said:
Remember that Kimmio thinks that sexism against men is alright because men have been in power too long...
So her morality is questionable
She makes up words
She when discussing something brings in so many concepts that it is difficult to find the actual discussion
So its no surprise that she is ok with the DNC breaking the law and moral law...
Her anxiety must be assuaged but it can't be. Society causes her didability. Other sex workers cause all sex workers to be oppressed. Dying with dignity will lead us to send her to the ovens. I wonder just how far she'd go to deal with her anxiety? How far would she cheat lie steal commit violence?
Ahh who knows. Its late and am still glad she's a friend.
Life is too serious to be serious.
And so it goes.
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Some friend you're being tonight.

I guess I'm in good company (or not) if 80% plus of Canadians "would if they could", vote for Clinton. Speaking of anxiety, read Graeme's post.:confused:

I guess I'm of the opinion that saving the world from Trump is more moral than letting Hillary's and the DNC's mistakes go. Neither people are perfectly moral, but it's a more moral thing to do to save the world from Trump first.

Tell me what American president has not committed any violence in yours and my lifetime?....pres. Carter maybe?

Trump has openly wondered about using nukes. Hopefully not after a tweet storm.

That already puts the world in more danger..just his remarks...if he were to be elected.

As for the other stuff you gas lighted me with...And I am of the opinion on the other things that certain laws will affect culture and change attitudes not necessarily in a good way. I do not believe it happens consciously but when a seed gets planted it grows further than the individual.
 
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Enjoying summer break ... and thus the scattered thoughts ... mimicking a broken god? Chi in fitz!

Remember power rules and thus the power mongers will side with Drum phfitz ... especially if they lead to pro fitz!

Recall it is just a word that can sway isolated (dissociated) thoughts ... eM that are out there ar root mean squares devised to eliminated negatives ... like elec Trons ! They can give you de BUZZ!
 
Northwind said:
For your consideration: "Trump Reflects White Male Fragility"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/opinion/trump-reflects-white-male-fragility.html?_r=0
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Op-ed by a liberal commentator working for a liberal-biased news conglomerate.

"On February 22, 2012, in commenting on presidential candidate Mitt Romney, Blow apparently intended to insult Romney by using an anti-Mormon religious slur, "Let me just tell you this Mitt "Muddle Mouth": I'm a single parent and my kids are *amazing*! Stick that in your magic underwear."[7][8] Blow's use of the term "magic underwear" is an apparent reference to the Temple Garment, and Blow's specific usage of the term "magic underwear" is a known term of derision used against members of the Mormon faith. Two days after using this religious slur, Blow said that his comment was "inappropriate," and he expressed "regret," but he did not apologize to Romney or other persons of the Mormon faith.[9]" Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_M._Blow
 
Racist? The guys with the backpacks are whining, a la Drumpf, and you think that's racism. I'd say it was a dismayed and delayed recognition that the days of colonial patriarchy are over.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Racist? The guys with the backpacks are whining, a la Drumpf, and you think that's racism. I'd say it was a dismayed and delayed recognition that the days of colonial patriarchy are over.
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I'm laughing
Hope you are :3
Its so fun to see all the different attempts by people to reconcile their internal movies with reality (whatever that is)
I'm writing here aboot the various online pundits in this case
And we can appreciate the skill and faults of both candidates
 
There is no choice in the U.S. election. Hillary has a murderous record, and is bankrolled by the extremely wealthy who want more wars. They want to conquer the world. They made that public 20 years ago in The New American Century. She also endorses (as does Obama) the concept of American Exceptionalism - now a standard belief in both parties - that the U.S. has the right to ignore all international law and directives. It's a revival of the old Manifest Destiny.
Hillary is greedy, utterly without moral principles, and has been bought. She's extremely dangerous because she is working for those who actually are looking for a nuclear war.
Trump is mentally ill - among other faults. But he has not a chance of winning, any way. Hillary's campaign fund is now something like a hundred times bigger than Trump's.
Anyone who would vote for either of them is a fool. And if large numbers of Canadians would vote for Hillary, they are fools.
The U.S. is a nation in which the greed of its economic and political leaders has driven them mad.
Our best hope now is a complete breakdown of American society - which could well happen.

I'm surprised by the cheering for Dr. Khan's patriotic defence of his son. What his son did was to go to war quite illegally against a nation that had in no way threatened the U.S. And there, the U.S. killed well over a million people, about half of them children. That is not my idea of heroism.
It's interesting, I suppose, to find a Muslim that ignores his faith and obeys patriotism. That's what all those German and Italian Christians did in 1939. Nor can I admire the heroism of American pilots who carpet bombed cities in Laos and Cambodia, sprayed Agent Orange on Vietnam and dropped napalm.
The U.S. is rushing to disaster whether it elects Hillary or Trump. And we live next door. And we have a weak prime minister who was foolish enough to send troops to eastern Europe to be part of an American-controlled force to provoke a war with Russia. If such a war happens, all those Canadians will be dead within minutes of the start.
 
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