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Kimmio said:
And allowing white supremacist ideology to be spread has helped, how, exactly?

It's the root problem in this alt-right vs. antifa conflict we're seeing.
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You are also begging the question here a bit?
If you take a look at the two links in this thread I gave as to how little compared 2 the world racism in USA really is, then that invalidates your first sentence?
Like the issue of women earning less than men it is a very complicated issue thst cant be summed up in a soundbyte or sentence or even one cause.
 
Inannawhimsey said:
You are also begging the question here a bit?
If you take a look at the two links in this thread I gave as to how little compared 2 the world racism in USA really is, then that invalidates your first sentence?
Like the issue of women earning less than men it is a very complicated issue thst cant be summed up in a soundbyte or sentence or even one cause.
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It may be little compared to the rest of the world but has risen recently and it is a problem. I'm not sure I buy that it is as low as those claims state.
 
Kimmio said:
The burden of apology is on them first. I've been ganged up on for so long, everyone feels entitled to speak to me in whatever condescending manner they want to. I'm sorry I felt the need to fight back.
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Thatz not how apologies really work.
You go ahead and keep making it all aboot you and being miserable.
We'll continue being awesome here and living our wonderful lives and enjoying our explorations of the possible.
I EVOKE THE SHIELD OF FRIENDSHIP!!!
 
Part of the Mosaic; a meditation

That was those 2
Cognomusings:
What happens when people of different cultures meet?
What happens when people arent allowed to talk aboot their assumptions because they are illegal (hate speech, various blasphemy laws)? Can real peace happen then?
What happens when one is part of a culture that elevates "find your own truth"?
 
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Kimmio said:
Reported. Back off, please. Your jokes are not funny.
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Some will laugh and some won't. It's not my best, but there is truth behind it. The mods aren't here to save you from yourself, and that's what you're asking here. Inanna has been trying to get you to see things from other perspectives, and you've been lashing out at him. I don't think he has been as successful as he thinks.

You want to shut down or dismiss everything you don't agree with. That never works. It doesn't work for you here, but you keep trying it. Now you want the mods to help you. I hope they don't.
 
chansen said:
Some will laugh and some won't. It's not my best, but there is truth behind it. The mods aren't here to save you from yourself, and that's what you're asking here. Inanna has been trying to get you to see things from other perspectives, and you've been lashing out at him. I don't think he has been as successful as he thinks.

You want to shut down or dismiss everything you don't agree with. That never works. It doesn't work for you here, but you keep trying it. Now you want the mods to help you. I hope they don't.
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I want you to stop muscling in and attacking me, whether it's with jokes or hateful hyperbole which you never apologized for and I don't expect you to.

Unless you can make a counter argument that doesn't include a personal attack/ me being emotional (which is really just an attack that shuts down dialogue) then leave me alone. Do not comment to me or about me.

As for @Inannawhimsey - I want him to stop publicly pseudo psycho analyzing me with his demeaning tactics. He is my friend but friends should not antagonize like that.

As for everybody else that I've had issues with lately I would like them to stop following both your leads and adding to the problem by agreeing with your personal attacks, justifying the pseudo psycho analysis, and copying your behaviour.

This is a discussion forum and bullying, even passive aggressive bullying should have no place here. If you have ideas - bring 'em, but without prefacing them with personal attacks or passive aggressive attacks that are obviously directed at a person. Argue ideas. That goes for me too. I would have to say that I hold my ground with my ideas, I am stubborn, but I rarely resort to attacking the person not the idea. It has happened but it's rare compared with what I endure. That is not making it about me - it's trying to stop others from making it about me - because then I am frustrated antagonized and I look like the irrational one - by design of the antagonizers. Stop.
 
Kimmio said:
I want you to stop muscling in and attacking me, whether it's with jokes or hateful hyperbole which you never apologized for and I don't expect you to.
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You sabotage whatever side of the debate you join. You're still carrying a torch for something I wrote months ago, and I still stand behind. You are a terrible advocate, and the more strongly you feel, the worse you perform, until you are doing real damage to your own side. It's still happening in this thread, with the shotgun approach and dismissiveness. Nothing has changed.

Nobody is bullying you here. On the contrary, we've often tried to help. How many PMs have you had with me? With Inanna? We disagree with your arguments sometimes. We disagree with your dismissive tendencies often. And now I disagree with your use of the report button. Leave the mods alone. Nothing here is mod-worthy, and you're just annoying them. You even quoted my post that you reported, which shows you're more interested in getting someone to agree with you than you are worried about the content of the post.
 
chansen said:
Some will laugh and some won't. It's not my best, but there is truth behind it. The mods aren't here to save you from yourself, and that's what you're asking here. Inanna has been trying to get you to see things from other perspectives, and you've been lashing out at him. I don't think he has been as successful as he thinks.

You want to shut down or dismiss everything you don't agree with. That never works. It doesn't work for you here, but you keep trying it. Now you want the mods to help you. I hope they don't.
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What I do is argue against what I don't agree with. Usually against several people who hold ideas I don't agree with, with people rarely trying to see things from my perspective. I've been relegated to "too emotional/ not rational" which is not true but has become the common belief system around here propogated by you and by Inanna. In reality my arguments about emotional topics are no less emotionally based than others. If you think your hyperbole and disruptive comments are always rational - I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you. If Inanna thinks his comments pseudo psycho analyzing me with Scott Adams tactics are rational, I would have to argue that they are not. They are manipulative. He knows he is manipulating my emotions by doing that. And when others follow the lead, it is passive aggressive. Not rational. Not impersonal, rational, argument. Having a rational argument doesn't mean I have to take on the perspectives that I have fundemental problems with. It just means that I shouldn't be allowed to attack the person making them. Me, or anyone here.

That's the last I will be making this about "me". It needs to be said. I will now just report going forward.
 
It's divisive. Because we've trained ourselves to be divided. We allow ourselves to emotionally react to other people's words. You are not the only one 'guilty' of such behaviour, but you are one of the least likely to apologize for it, from my observations.

True peace, and true balance, comes from being able to hold two conflicting ideas in your head at the same time and examine them dispassionately.
 
You have never apologized for it - and you just did it. Stop putting me in my place like you have all the "rational" answers.

Chansen is the least likely here to apologize for anything.
 
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