TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

How do you know that the antifa isn't affiliated with the alt-left and used against the peace keepers?

Huh?

 

[BetteTheRed]

Another good article, from Brian MacLaren, author, who says that, while he comes from a generally anti-liturgical wear tradition, he was happy enough to see how well it worked as an identifier for those seeking help.

What I Saw in Charlottesville - Auburn Seminary

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I'm going to post this again.... It needs to be read if those of on the left - the progressives, multiculturalists...want to stay aware and intellectually honest, imo:

Inside the anti-racist movement that brings the fight to white supremacists

 

[Waterfall]

Huh?

Why the huh, should we take anything at face value? The tactics of the KKK are well known, it wouldn't be beyond them to create another cell to seemingly agree with the peace keepers cause but it's real purpose would be to discredit them.

 

[Mendalla]

Hired goons.

Hired goons are predictable, though. They will hurt whomever they are paid to hurt so are easy to monitor and defend against. Buffoons, less so. As Trump proves time and time again. Today's ally can be tomorrow's target. And back again.

Yes there is, people that are afraid to speak out about obvious injustice for the sake of their jobs.

That I can probably agree with.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Why the huh, should we take anything at face value? The tactics of the KKK are well known, it wouldn't be beyond them to create another cell to seemingly agree with the peace keepers cause but it's real purpose would be to discredit them.

I didn't understand your first comment, hence the "huh?". I get it now.

I don't think so "Antifa" has roots that go back to the 20s and 30s apparently.

I want to be clear that what I am against is violent tactics used.

 

[Northwind]

Not yet. Did you read the Mother Jones and Atlantic articles? The first MJ article is an interesting expose of disaffected skin head and punk youth in Indiana - peas from the same pod. Some went far left, some far right, both used violence.

You made a comment in response to the link I posted without having listened to it. Listen to it then comment.

I have not read the articles you posted yet. I have also not commented on them.

I do not think both the extreme left and extreme right are equally responsible for Charlottesville. But the extreme left contributed to the violence

Listen to the clip.

 

[Jaebius]

Hired goons are predictable, though. They will hurt whomever they are paid to hurt so are easy to monitor and defend against. Buffoons, less so. As Trump proves time and time again. Today's ally can be tomorrow's target. And back again.



That I can probably agree with.

I would rather face buffoons. I'll leave the hired goons to you. Some buffoons are, of course, 'people who amuse others by tricks, jokes, odd gestures and postures, etc.' Source: Dictionary.com - The world’s favorite online dictionary! The Troll being a professional magician, I met quite a large number of this kind of buffoon growing up. Extremely nice people for the most part. Warm, gentle, full of fun.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

You made a comment in response to the link I posted without having listened to it. Listen to it then comment.

I have not read the articles you posted yet. I have also not commented on them.



Listen to the clip.

For those who blame the "alt-left" for the violence, this interview is quite enlightening. David Neiwert is a man who has studied this issue extensively and is speaking with Mark Connolly on Edmonton AM.

Edmonton AM | The rise of alt-right extremism



I couldn't have said it better. Demeaning and silencing dissent is very dangerous.

i have known about the rise of the alt-right, and read things from the Southern Poverty Law Centre for some time. Since before Trump was elected. I didn't know what to call it until Clinton said "alt-right" but something was going on - the anarchists seemed to have been infiltrated by some people with ugly ideas and were spreading them online and I couldn't understand it. It picked up over the last few years. And quite a few "hipsters" were all of a sudden really sexist, racist and demeaning the concept of social justice - and it confused me. And I knew that neo-naziism and white nationalism were on the rise in Europe and that Putin was a factor in this because he wants to break up Europe and regain loyalty from former soviet countries instead of them joining the EU. It's all part of the same wicked brew, in the big picture, imo. In terms of the alt-left I have already given a counter argument to that concept, with articles, last night. They could just as easily be called factions of the anarchist left who use violence as a tactic in their "toolkit" which I do not agree with. Again, I think it stems from the fact that using violence against oppressive government is written into their constitution. And both extreme sides think that's what they're doing.

 

[Northwind]

What do you think of what David Neiwert said about the left?

 

[Waterfall]

The KKK are relying on the internet to connect with others much the same as ISIS, what responsibility do the internet giants have? GoDaddy and Discord shut down a hate magazine called Daily Stormer from their services. Can we not redirect hate searches?

Tech Companies Have the Tools to Confront White Supremacy

 

[Waterfall]

I will be referring to the alt-right as the KKK from now on.......there is nothing right in their organization and I will not use their sanitized name as the try to claim a legitimate role in this society.

 

[Pontifex Geronimo 13]

Have to say congrats Kimmio for being the first to get a glimpse outside of the MSM smoke.

 

[Waterfall]

Have to say congrats Kimmio for being the first to get a glimpse outside of the MSM smoke.

What smoke is that Pontifex?

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I will be referring to the alt-right as the KKK from now on.......there is nothing right in their organization and I will not use their sanitized name as the try to claim a legitimate role in this society.

It's not only the KKK though - it's other neo-nazi and white supremacy and "Stone Age" sexist groups too. Some even came from the online gaming community.

It should've been a tip off to all respectable republicans, though, when David Duke's tweet was projected on a screen at the RNC convention.

 

[Waterfall]

It's not only the KKK though - it's other neo-nazi and white supremacy and "Stone Age" sexist groups too. Some even came from the online gaming community.

It should've been a tip off to all respectable republicans, though, when David Duke's tweet was projected on a screen at the RNC convention.

I don't care what they call themselves....offshoots by any other name still smells like the KKK.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I don't care what they call themselves....offshoots by any other name still smells like the KKK.

Okay. But then you might not notice the others.

 

[Pontifex Geronimo 13]

I will be referring to the alt-right as the KKK from now on.......there is nothing right in their organization and I will not use their sanitized name as the try to claim a legitimate role in this society.

That's the standard trick of the left. Label everybody you hate a racist.

 

[Waterfall]

Okay. But then you might not notice the others.

I'm sure they will take care of that. The KKK have literally developed their own language in order to avoid detection and spreading out into other groups is just another exercise for confusion.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

What smoke is that Pontifex?

I think he means this:

Inside the anti-racist movement that brings the fight to white supremacists

Again, this is a progressive left magazine - established in 1976- writing this investigative interview/ expose.