TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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Graeme Decarie said:
Trump's argument will go down well with large numbers of Americans who see the sins of others, but not of themselves. He justified torture by citing the cruelty of lopping off hands by extreme Muslims groups - the same ones the U.S. has been funding.
Americans are horrified - but don't think of the millions of innocent people of all ages that have been killed or crippled by U.S. bombing and forced starvation (as in Yemen).
Nor is torture likely to make the U.S. more loved in the Muslim world.

Oh - the world leader in lopping off hands is our good ol' buddy, Saudi Arabia. Funny Trump didn't denounce that.
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Sin apt ix in the larger brae inzone ... within us unconsciously?
 
BetteTheRed said:
People with personality disorders, particularly ones featuring narcissism, don't tend to seek help from psychologists. They are just fine; it's you that has the problem.
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Basic rules of psychology in which appearances are incarnate ... or not as they appear from within which can be in or out depending on which side of the dark MIR one rests ... some do not regard the MIR as spatial ... just so much mire dirt spread by de Nous ... alternate to the lies "in house" ... Jack Cards loam? Earth weaving and wobbling out there ... while we are entrained ... G-URL?
 
If Trump dictates to the powers of Latin America is he a Spanish dictator?

Could be an odd perspective depending on which direction you are looking from the baffling situation ...
 
I heard Pense speak at the 'Women's Protest against Women's right to choose' that he refer to as Pro-Life. He kept referring to a 'Pro-Abortion' march. Was there a Pro-Abortion march? When? Where?
I know that the day before his speech there was a Woman's March on Washington. I understood it to be a protest against a great many things - like racism, like persecution of Muslims, like attacks on religion. I understood it to be in support of the LGBTQ people, and African Americans, and immigrants, and women's rights, including the right to her own body (no unwanted sexual harassment or touching), and her right to chose.

Pro-Abortion - I've never met anyone who was pro-abortion. Lots of people who are pro-education, including education about how our bodies work, access to health care and reproductive care, breast examinations and pap smears to detect cancer and treat it in its early stages, protection from rape, information about and access to birth control, pre-natal and post-natal health care, support in caring for their families, and the right and ability to make the difficult choice about whether to terminate a pregnancy. Pro-choice - the right to chose.
But pro-abortion - is anyone saying 'oh I hope that I get pregnant so that I can get an abortion. I can hardly wait.'
 
BetteTheRed said:
Anyone who thinks that Pence would be an improvement is sadly mistaken. Pence is demonstrably racist and homophobic and has the political credentials to prove it.
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Tens' Pence, or just tue Penne when coming to noodling ... Testla a biblical expression for the emotional gonads:"use your head!"
 
Pence is a religious nutcase. He would just be a different sort of crazy.

The Americans are stuck with an incompetent idiot for 4 years. Best case scenario is this finally wakes up democrats to vote in the midterms.
 
chansen said:
Pence is a religious nutcase. He would just be a different sort of crazy.

The Americans are stuck with an incompetent idiot for 4 years. Best case scenario is this finally wakes up democrats to vote in the midterms.
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But do they know that? Tis stunning ... or just stunned!
 
Can't remember who was speaking, but I heard someone the other day refer to Trump as "the Toddler President." In other words, he has many qualities we normally associate with two year olds: tantrums when he doesn't get his way, defiance when people disagree with him, saying whatever leaps into his mind with no thought to the consequences, no logic or reasoning behind his actions, the desire for attention and immediate self-gratification. Unfortunately he has no mommy or daddy to control him. He has Steve Bannon instead.
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
:ROFLMAO:Trump flattened the Republican Party, then the democrats, with all the lying media.

And you guys still hold hope you are going to win.:ROFLMAO:
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Win? Personally, winning is not what I'm concerned about. Standing up for what I believe is. If more Christians had actually stood up for the principles Jesus stood for then Trump wouldn't have been elected. But Christians are as imperfect as anyone else, and lots of them were either bamboozled by Trump or thought that they could use Trump to promote their own agenda. The latter group thinks it's won. But Trump will turn on them eventually because he has no loyalty to anyone or anything except himself. He has no ideology. That's why he was a Democrat, and then he was going to run for president for the Reform Party, and now he's a Republican. He's been pro-choice, now he's pro-life. He's been in favour of universal health care like Canada's, now he's against it, except that he's backtracking a bit because he realizes that a lot of people are actually for Obamacare - including some who voted for him. He was a friend of Hillary Clinton, then he wanted to lock her up, then he decided he wouldn't. He's donated big bucks to Chuck Schumer's Senate campaigns, now he thinks Chuck Schumer's "the head clown." He believes in very little and he has little loyalty. He's a populist. He sniffs the winds and adjusts himself accordingly. He likes the adulation of the crowds, and he does and says things that will gain him that. And he lashes out at those who don't give him that adulation. His idea of political debate is to level insults at people. The only thing stranger than the number of conservatives who thought Obama was a socialist (which was ridiculous) is the number of conservatives who think Trump's a conservative (which is more ridiculous.) Trump would be a fascinating psychological study. That very fact makes it disturbing that he's president.
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
Disturbing for Canada, I'll give you that.
Trudeau is puffing up his chest like you guys like to.
Is softwood lumber really soft when it gets rammed up your butt?
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Who are these "you guys." I say what I think. My chest isn't puffed up - but I'm also not shy to take a stand when I think it's necessary. I'm as liable to error as anyone else, which is why the idea of the grace of God is so important to me.
Trump isn't particularly disturbing for Canada. He's just disturbing in general. Honestly - Trump's fine with Canada. You don't have loads of Canadians desperately trying to enter the US. We have lots of oil. We like pipelines. We're a huge market for US manufacturers (and the same is true in reverse.) Trump isn't going to do any direct harm to Canada. (Collateral damage is possible.) As for NAFTA, I suspect that Trump would be very happy to basically keep NAFTA (updated because it is 25 years old) as a bilateral arrangement between Canada and the US, since NAFTA itself is basically an outgrowth of the old Canada-US Free Trade Agreement. It's Mexico that's in Trump's target zone. I even have some sympathy with him on that. NAFTA's problem is that you have two developed economies and a much less developed economy with much lower production and labour costs. I actually get Trump on this - NAFTA doesn't have a level playing field on which to operate. It's kind of like the problem the EU is facing since the much poorer Eastern European economies joined. Trump isn't wrong to suggest that NAFTA has problems. But he can't just say that. He has to turn it into a vindictive and mean-spirited and even bigoted verbal war against Mexico and Mexicans. This is why he's dangerous. Even when he's right, he can't just be right.
 
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