About the OP. Sam and his guest are critiquing the inefficiency of social programs instituted by both the centre left (mainstream Democrats in the US and centre right Republicans there). The neoliberal era's contracting out of public services caused that. Though they like to tout their accomplishments, they made services less efficient and more cumbersome. The right of centre thinks any social program, neoliberal or not, is a wasteful program. It's true these programs are often wasteful. That's a function of public-private contracting - where they cut corners to save money and it has a greater socioeconomic cost down the road. It's not because too much is spent on social programs. It's just the wrong model.
The Welfare State, Universal vs. Means Tested Programs
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Sam will debate with the people in the IDW with whom he disagrees anywhere, anytime. They are afraid to debate him and they avoid him. He's already torn apart their arguments and they don't want their anti-intellectual/ pseudo intellectual echo chamber (with a few people who happen to be educated in certain areas but who are also spreading debunked science ) to be exposed for what it is, or they'd stop making money from it. The host of the show they've all been regulars on, Dave Rubin, won't debate Sam Seder.
He debates with libertarians quite often, though. He had a debate/ discussion with Adam Kokesh you may want to check out, @Ritafee.
He debates with libertarians quite often, though. He had a debate/ discussion with Adam Kokesh you may want to check out, @Ritafee.
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It all depends on who sucks best ... the power or the client as in:
The powers write history and the laws ... don't they? The big blows ... Eire ... wild means right down the core (meddlin)! Who wishes to be a client? Yet there's this negative feedback ... to support the "nothing" theory ... and we the demos were unimpressed by tyranny ... tyrants love IT! Foundational ... bottom line in our own way ...
The powers write history and the laws ... don't they? The big blows ... Eire ... wild means right down the core (meddlin)! Who wishes to be a client? Yet there's this negative feedback ... to support the "nothing" theory ... and we the demos were unimpressed by tyranny ... tyrants love IT! Foundational ... bottom line in our own way ...
He's not an aspiring career politician! He's in his 50s and if he's running for any office it's because he wants to be part of the change he wishes to see in the world.
Peterson is a "shadow politician" (something like deep state?) - he pretended he was anything but while he became more and more high profile, then worked for Charlie Kirk and one of Don Trump Jr's (and I believe the Koch brothers partially funded but will fact check) enterprises - Turning Points USA -(recruiting right wing students) and was a regular guest on a show with a Koch family agenda.
Turning Point USA - SourceWatch
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What about Joe Rogan? Is he a 'deep state' operative as well?
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The podcast isn’t just popular; it’s becoming politically important. In February, Rogan hosted fringe Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang for a two-hour discussion. Soon afterward, Yang reported an unprecedented flood of campaign donations. “Everything is up and to the right since the Joe Rogan podcast,” Yang’s campaign manager told the Daily Beast. “That was the key. That was the moment.”
For the past several years, Rogan has made a point of regularly interviewing the IDW’s leading figures, declining the opportunity to meaningfully challenge them, and laundering their ideas in the process. Over the past year alone, he has hosted long conversations with Harris, the “Sokal Squared” academic hoaxsters Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay, social psychologist and trigger-warning foe Jonathan Haidt, mathematician Eric Weinstein, former Evergreen State College professors Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying, and Canadian psychology professor and anti-PC crusader Jordan Peterson.
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And then there is your pick ...
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And then there are mine ...
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It means there are a lot of gullible people (leaving George's channel out of the equation). And for awhile Google algorithms were swaying people to right wing content...and there just aren't as many left wing shows on YouTube.Jordan B Peterson - 2.53M subscribers
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What about Joe Rogan? Is he a 'deep state' operative as well?
PowerfulJRE - 7.43M subscribers
The podcast isn’t just popular; it’s becoming politically important. In February, Rogan hosted fringe Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang for a two-hour discussion. Soon afterward, Yang reported an unprecedented flood of campaign donations. “Everything is up and to the right since the Joe Rogan podcast,” Yang’s campaign manager told the Daily Beast. “That was the key. That was the moment.”
For the past several years, Rogan has made a point of regularly interviewing the IDW’s leading figures, declining the opportunity to meaningfully challenge them, and laundering their ideas in the process. Over the past year alone, he has hosted long conversations with Harris, the “Sokal Squared” academic hoaxsters Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay, social psychologist and trigger-warning foe Jonathan Haidt, mathematician Eric Weinstein, former Evergreen State College professors Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying, and Canadian psychology professor and anti-PC crusader Jordan Peterson.
The Rubin Report - 1.14M subscribers
And then there is your pick ...
The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder - 772K subscribers
And then there are mine ...
The Conscious Resistance 44.8K subscribers
Truthstream Media - 493K subscribersMy New Book Is Now Available! Get You Some! - The Conscious Resistance Network
Derrick Broze discusses his new book, How To Opt-Out of the Technocratic State!
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Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie, btw. That should help. Maybe. Because he explained later, it was a maybe. At least Joe Rogan admits he's a moron and doesn't understand politics very well. The left wing people who complained about Joe's endorsement were also morons, imo. Joe's not perfect but he's the most likeable of that bunch. He seems easy going and like someone who everyone could be friends with (so his parties could get awkward), even though he says stupid things once in awhile.
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We are all shadow politicians?
But Jordan Peterson is in ...
The shadow government (cryptocracy, secret government, or invisible government) family of conspiracy theories based on the notion that real and actual political power resides not with publicly elected representatives but with private individuals who are exercising power behind the scenes, beyond the scrutiny of democratic institutions. According to this belief, the official elected government is subservient to the shadow government, which is the true executive power?
But Jordan Peterson is in ...
The shadow government (cryptocracy, secret government, or invisible government) family of conspiracy theories based on the notion that real and actual political power resides not with publicly elected representatives but with private individuals who are exercising power behind the scenes, beyond the scrutiny of democratic institutions. According to this belief, the official elected government is subservient to the shadow government, which is the true executive power?
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Have it your way @kimmio ... everyone that does not agree with you is obviously
Don't let his low subscription on the You Tube channel fool you ...
I am not sure why you are leaving George's channel out of the equation ...
Don't let his low subscription on the You Tube channel fool you ...
Because I have no quarrel with him on this subject right now and would like to leave his channel out of the gullible watchers equation.
Jordan Peterson has been used (or has volunteered/ been hired to be used) as a political tool by bigger powers. That's obvious.
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But what can they know ... without Sam Seder to tell them so?
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and he is in Russia right now too!
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What is really strange is how I see the prophet in George, but I see shadows of that prophetic vision in both of my sons. It's a voice that resonates with me.
This thread is officially off the tracks. It's the junk drawer of WC2 threads. There's usually some good stuff buried in the junk drawer.
Sam Seder makes me curious to find out more about the issues he's concerned about in the US.
I do wonder why he went there. It's odd.