The Sixth Sign (John 11: 1 - 45)

[GordW]

I'm not quite following you @unsafe. i understand what you are saying about Judas in John 12.

John 11 and John 12 both talk about Mary anointing Jesus's feet. John 11 reads as though it happened in the past. Do you think the two descriptions relate to the same incident? Or did it happen twice?

WHen you read the text it almost looks like an editing mistake where the reference to the event was accidentally inserted before the event.

 

[PilgrimsProgress]

Perhaps you have found some New Life yourself in becoming a lay leader in the church?

Very much so.........it gives my life an added sense of meaning and purpose. I'm passionate about connecting with a congregation, and enthusing them in faith. I'm critical of sermons from the neck up that are so dry that the congregation nods off. Jesus wanted us to live fully, and preaching should be the full deal - interpreting text, relating to social conditions in both the times of the Gospels and in today's world, and showing warmth, humour and affection.

My father was a teacher, and as a child in his class, I learnt that communication is the essence of education. Dad said you have to start with what the pupil knows and work from there. You are not there to impress folks with how clever you are!

 

[paradox3]

WHen you read the text it almost looks like an editing mistake where the reference to the event was accidentally inserted before the event.

It does doesn't it?

Another piece of biblical trivia to remember

 

[unsafe]

John 11 and John 12 both talk about Mary anointing Jesus's feet. John 11 reads as though it happened in the past. Do you think the two descriptions relate to the same incident? Or did it happen twice?

So this is how I see it ------I went back and looked it over again -----

It only happens once and it happens in John !2 ------

This is commentary on this -----

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(2) It was that Mary which anointed the Lord.--Comp. Notes on Matthew 26:6 et seq., and Mark 14:3 et seq. John himself relates the anointing in John 12:3 et seq. Here he simply mentions it as distinguishing Mary from others of the same name. and assumes it as a well-known incident which had been, as Christ declared it should be, "told for a memorial of her wheresoever the gospel had been preached" (Matthew 26:13). Still, the other Evangelists had not told the name, and St. John, when the name first occurs in his narrative, connects it with the person whose deed of love was known to all.
There is no sufficient reason for identifying Mary of Bethany with the "woman which was a sinner" (see Notes on Luke 7:37 et seq.), or for identifying either with Mary Magdalene.

 

[paradox3]

@unsafe Is John 11: 2 referring to the future then?

 

[unsafe]

Is John 11: 2 referring to the future then?

Could be --All scripture is God breathed and God certainly knows the future ------and He used John again in Revelation to tell him what was coming in the future ---

 

[paradox3]

This John 11/ John 12 thing is an interesting little quirk of the Bible.

Good to have a variety of possible explanations. Thanks everyone.

 

[Luce NDs]

How extensive is scripture if you mentally allow for the expansive nature? Then some say mental content behaves as if complex and pious folk deny complexity for simplicity and thus we are the result (sometimes known as a consequence).
Can you abstract largely on such dark unknowns in archaic literature ...

Project: mental complexes ... and let them out! Thus will all descent of totalitarian Gods that wish to gather all ... substance and to hell with comprehension of the consequence! Now that is thick ... odd nebulae?

That blinding experience when peeking through a fire hole ...

 

[GordW]

It does doesn't it?

Another piece of biblical trivia to remember

TO be fair, sometimes when I am telling stories I get the order of things mixed up