The Gospel of Mark

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paradox3 said:
Partly. How do you explain the miraculous acts of Jesus while he dwelt among us as a human?
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Deeds of the Holy Spirit dwelling in him.
I'll look for one passage of Robert Farrar Capon and post it here when I find it. He explains this mystery in a way that was very accessible for me.
 
"Jesus, we believe, is indeed truly divine and truly human. But those two natures, while inseparably joined in God the Son, the Second Person of the Trinity, are distinct and unconfused. The Incarnate Lord is not a mishmash of divinity and humanity. There is not a scrap of human nature in his Godhead, and most important here, there is not a smitch of deity in his manhood, any more than there is in yours or mine. He came to save us, in our nature, not to put on some flashy, theandric, superhuman performance that would be fundamentally irrelevant to our condition.
Accordingly, when the deity of Jesus acts or impinges upon his humanity, it does so not in the order of nature, not by souping up his humanity into something more than human - but in the order of grace: that is, by divine influences that empower human nature but do not tamper with it. In Scripture, it's precisely the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Trinity, who is given credit for enabling and guiding the humanity of Jesus.
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Therefore, when we talk about the development of Jesus' messianic consciousness, we should stay light-years away from any suggestion that he had a kind of trap door between his divine and human minds. (...) The influence of the Spirit alone - acting upon his human nature in no fundamentally different way that it does on ours - is quite sufficient: it covers all the biblical bases; it provides for all the divine "informing" we ever need to speak of; and it does so without turning Jesus into Superman."

CAPON, Robert Farrar. Kingdom, Grace, Judgment: Paradox, Outrage, and Vindication in the Parables of Jesus. Pages 33-34.
 
Summary: Mark 11: 1-33

1. Jesus enters Jerusalem on a colt that has never been ridden. People spread their cloaks and branches on the ground, shouting Hosanna! Jesus enters the temple and looks around at everything.

2. The next day Jesus curses the fig tree that has not produced figs. The disciples hear this.

3. Jesus enters the temple and overturns the tables of the money changers and the seats of those selling doves. The scribes and chief priests look for a way to kill Jesus but are afraid because the whole crowd is spellbound by His teaching.

4. The next day the fig tree has withered. When Peter notices this, Jesus responds by speaking of faith. Whatever we ask for in prayer will be ours if we believe we have received it. When praying it is important to forgive if we have anything against anyone, so that God will forgive us.

5. The scribes, chief priests and elders challenge Jesus to say by whose authority he acts. He replies by asking if the baptism of John came from heaven or was of human origin. They argue with one another but do not know the answer. Jesus refuses to tell them the source of His authority.
 
Reflection: Mark 11: 1-33

Here we have the crowds still clamoring for Jesus and Jesus silent about the source of His authority. Overturning the tables and seats in the temple is a challenge to the religious authorities of the day and this action angers them. They have already been looking for a way to kill Him but fear the crowds.

In this context, Jesus speaks of faith and forgiveness.
 
chansen said:
Jesus is bipolar? That explains a lot.
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And divination ...

And to contrast the epistles ... a lighter and darker side so as to be scene ... for those with interest in reading ... tis just intuit!

A site for soaring eyes or I'z 've Zion ... floaters? Thoughts are like that ... spun out ... from myth of Moira ... and songs out on Myra ...
 
Thoughts on Mark 11:12-14; 20-23...

Jesus skipped breakfast on Monday morning. On their way from Bethany to Jerusalem he was hungry.

When Jesus went over to a fig tree, he was disappointed. There were no figs.

This tree was a type of the Jewish people, and Christ's goal in doing this miracle was to bring his missionaries' attention to that fact. The Jews denied godliness' power.

Three years Jesus had worked in this nation, but the majority of the people wanted nothing of the Messiah. There was no proof of a worship in spirit and in truth.

And so this nation would become subject to the curse, just as Jesus here pronounced the curse upon the tree.

Mark notes that the missionaries heard Jesus speak to the tree.

It was on Tuesday morning that Jesus again passed by the fig tree with his missionaries. Jesus' curse had taken effect; the tree was dead.

Jesus then proceeds to give the missionaries a second lesson from the miracle. He impresses upon them the topic of faith in God.

With God's command and promise before us, nothing's impossible. A missionary doesn't attain the object that they're striving for because there's some apprehension, some doubt in them as to the possibility of carrying out the plan. Such natures defeat faith's ends.

And faith's tool is prayer.
 
paradox3 ---from your summary post ----- 1. Jesus enters Jerusalem on a colt that has never been ridden.

unsafe says -----This is very important here as Jesus is Fulfilling an Old Testament prophesy ------


unsafe posting here from OT

Zechariah 9:9 (AMP)
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Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion!
Shout aloud, O Daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your King (Messianic King) is coming to you;
He is righteous and endowed with salvation,
Humble and unassuming [in submission to the will of the Father] and riding on a donkey,
Upon a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Footnotes:
  1. Zechariah 9:9 Quoted in the NT to describe the triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem, see Matt 21:1-11; Mark 11:1-11; Luke 19:28-38; John 12:14-16.
  2. Zechariah 9:9 As a matter of discussion, the ancient rabbis noted an apparent contradiction between the coming of the Messiah with the clouds of heaven in Dan 7:13, and his riding on a donkey as prophesied here. Their solution was that Messiah would come with the clouds if Israel was worthy, but on a donkey if Israel was not.
 
And faith's tool is prayer.

Pray that haught irony doesn't seal your fate (para phrased) --- Hippocrates!

Under plagiarism rule your supposed to say it divinely different ... the darker underlying forces don't like the same old ... sam oile dai ... slippery as time! Handled by an unseen machination ... mille 'n away ...

The neutered particles don't get it ... tis stacked against the skewered as fixated ... an expression in metaphorical terms as different as teleological and deontological differentiating on duty of ends ... some are left hanging ... puppets of the mytth 've Uriah? That dark beam in the opposing weal?

Does some sense of idealism appear incarnate in black and white ... feeding the twilight Zoan?

Immaterial that is if we have no interest ...

The alter interest gives rise to alter Egos ... other observations ... tis an ode thing right?

Ste Phannie goes on ... as if it were nothing ... soph*etics for sops ... ill bred ?

A hoard of host can't do it on their own ... thus consummation ... without taste for common strangers ... how would one learn about what's beyond that? This ...

(continue antes)
 
Jae said:
Three years Jesus had worked in this nation, but the majority of the people wanted nothing of the Messiah. There was no proof of a worship in spirit and in truth.
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I have always understood that John 's gospel alone describes a three year ministry for Jesus. The synoptic gospels have it as one year in duration.
 
paradox3 said:
I have always understood that John 's gospel alone describes a three year ministry for Jesus. The synoptic gospels have it as one year in duration.
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Odin ... is is chaotic state were in and don't know why ... had no wish to? The oriented curse ... as we become our enemy ...

This can only go on in the mind without a hart for duty, etc. in keeping the fabric together ... much spinning and wobbling required to befuddle the english clippers ... lords of la Scie? So they thought ... as empirests ... obviously without sense of balance ... Archimedean?

Tis a mean space Scottie ... CAD usis! Some sketching required ... thus ketched up ...
 
paradox3 said:
I have always understood that John 's gospel alone describes a three year ministry for Jesus. The synoptic gospels have it as one year in duration.
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That's never been my understanding paradox3. Where in the synoptic gospels does it state as such?
 
Is it specified anywhere or are the various lengths people talk about just a result of them looking at the timelines given in the Gospels and guesstimating?
 
Thoughts on Mark 11:29-33...

Jesus was willing to give an account of himself and of his actions in the temple, under one condition.

If they'd give him their answer on something, he'd tell them by what authority he was doing all he was.

The question Jesus proposed: by whose orders was John the Baptist's baptizing done.

For, if they should say, "From God," then the response would be, "Then why did you refuse him belief?"

But, "Suppose we say, from people?" This they didn't dare answer, for they were afraid of the crowd.

And so they preferred not to answer; whereupon Jesus told them that he also wouldn't answer them. Their conscience told them that Jesus had authority from God.

Therefore, unbelief is objectionable from moral reasoning. The unbelievers refuse to obey the word. And so, they lie.
 
It always puzzled me that Jesus was surprised to find no figs, 'since it was not the season for figs'. Why would he put a curse on the poor tree that couldn't help it?
Also, if he could have turned stones to bread, could he not, if he were that hungry, turned twigs to figs?
 
Redbaron said:
It always puzzled me that Jesus was surprised to find no figs, 'since it was not the season for figs'. Why would he put a curse on the poor tree that couldn't help it?
Also, if he could have turned stones to bread, could he not, if he were that hungry, turned twigs to figs?
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Possibly a Jesuit-like aversion to anything fruitcake in potential?

Suite Jae Zeus a hole in the system of mire intent? Thus blown ... word circulates in vernacular form ... often humus to the laws and loss ... can it be stomached ...

Obviously the myth must be altered ... thus bent! And the shadow descends ... Sun Deis morning comedown?

Please stomach be calmed ... after the Seder feast ... silence is required after the party Anne ... Sousanne?

May be interpreted in one way as under concern ... a hidden worry ... looking into sub conscience is uncovering sub conscience as covenanted ... sacred soul rules?

One has to have someone to bare it with ... know Poo? Fertility personified if you can get to know their crap as handed down ...

I've suited up in it ... BS as it goes ...
 
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Redbaron said:
It always puzzled me that Jesus was surprised to find no figs, 'since it was not the season for figs'. Why would he put a curse on the poor tree that couldn't help it?
Also, if he could have turned stones to bread, could he not, if he were that hungry, turned twigs to figs?
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Impatient, I guess.:) I suspect that the tree being out of season works into the meaning of the story somehow.
 
Redbaron said:
It always puzzled me that Jesus was surprised to find no figs, 'since it was not the season for figs'. Why would he put a curse on the poor tree that couldn't help it?
Also, if he could have turned stones to bread, could he not, if he were that hungry, turned twigs to figs?
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As I've shared - he had an object lesson in mind.
 
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