The Christian Downfall ---The Error Of Balaam

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Hi Neo--Your post--Are you suggesting that Christianity predates the old faiths like Hinduism? And besides, it's not a matter of holding onto old faiths, it's a matter of not throwing the baby out with the bath water when it comes to what to believe and what not to believe. All of the religions have pearls of wisdom that we need to extract and the greater the understanding on our part the more we get to be taken up into a world of light and love and understanding.

AIRCLEAN--I state the way to GOD is through Christ Jesus. Any other is the wrong path. The old faith your right the fallen one has been here a long time.As far as understanding gose . The Holy Spirit gives more than I I hold. airclean33
 
here again Neo your post--
As I've said AC, the Christ is much bigger than the Christian religion that followed Him. The Christ Consciousness includes the Oneness of Humanity (and beyond), which is why Christ said this, at the end of the last supper; He said: "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." This is the Oneness of Humanity, not just of Christians.

AIRCLEAN---You are right if you mean our GOD is greater than humankind can ever hope to understand. That you believe as you posted I am sure you think it right. I however believe your post wrong. It is not a oneness of Humanity , as you have stated .I Believe it was always ment to mean the family of GOD. We have become the Children of the most High GOD. He has become our Father. This has nothing to do with the world and humankind.---airclean33
 
airclean33 said:
Hi revsdd--you are right . It was covered up by the quote box . Please accept my apology steve.
Then I must ask did you not get anything from 8-16 or 8-17?
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Did you not read my reply, in which I explained how I interpreted the passage, through the "spiritual glasses" I have been given? You see, here's the issue I've had with unsafe as well. I see something you don't see - you ask "didn't you get it?" My response is that I got what the Holy Spirit revealed to me as best as I could discern it. I'm humble enough to admit that it's my interpretation, and, even empowered by the Holy Spirit (as Paul was when he wrote this) "now we see but dimly, as in a mirror."
 
airclean33 said:
here again Neo your post--
As I've said AC, the Christ is much bigger than the Christian religion that followed Him. The Christ Consciousness includes the Oneness of Humanity (and beyond), which is why Christ said this, at the end of the last supper; He said: "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." This is the Oneness of Humanity, not just of Christians.

AIRCLEAN---You are right if you mean our GOD is greater than humankind can ever hope to understand. That you believe as you posted I am sure you think it right. I however believe your post wrong. It is not a oneness of Humanity , as you have stated .I Believe it was always ment to mean the family of GOD. We have become the Children of the most High GOD. He has become our Father. This has nothing to do with the world and humankind.---airclean33
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Yes, "the family of God". Can you not see how there is nothing but God?

Life manifests as solar systems and as the human beings. Our task is to become aware of the God within all. Until then, we suffer in time, subject to daily repetition like Prometheus being attacked by eagles on each new day.
 
airclean33 said:
Hi Neo--Your post--Are you suggesting that Christianity predates the old faiths like Hinduism? And besides, it's not a matter of holding onto old faiths, it's a matter of not throwing the baby out with the bath water when it comes to what to believe and what not to believe. All of the religions have pearls of wisdom that we need to extract and the greater the understanding on our part the more we get to be taken up into a world of light and love and understanding.

AIRCLEAN--I state the way to GOD is through Christ Jesus. Any other is the wrong path. The old faith your right the fallen one has been here a long time.As far as understanding gose . The Holy Spirit gives more than I I hold. airclean33
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Airclean have you ever considered that your so called spiritual glasses might need updating? Maybe your eye sight isn't as good as it once was and your siritual glasses need a new perscription. Now maybe just maybe others who you disagree with have the proper spiritual glasses for them.
 
airclean33 said:
... All of the religions have pearls of wisdom that we need to extract and the greater the understanding on our part the more we get to be taken up into a world of light and love and understanding.

AIRCLEAN--I state the way to GOD is through Christ Jesus. Any other is the wrong path. The old faith your right the fallen one has been here a long time.As far as understanding gose . The Holy Spirit gives more than I I hold. airclean33
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Are you suggesting that "Christ Jesus" doesn't work in "light and love and understanding"?
 
dreamerman said:
Airclean have you ever considered that your so called spiritual glasses might need updating? Maybe your eye sight isn't as good as it once was and your siritual glasses need a new perscription. Now maybe just maybe others who you disagree with have the proper spiritual glasses for them.
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-Hi Dreamerman-- I am sure many believe ,I I may be. Where I am many are thinking the other way. Me Dreamer I think I'll just lison to what GOD says. The Spirit inside me tells me I am all right. Ofcouse that don't mean I'm always right.
 
Hi Revsdd---Yes Steve I did finnly read what you wrote. I had been rean 2-3 -different posts at the the I wrote. I understand thats what you see and understand through the Spirit. Now Steve we see different and having the same Spirit we should get the same. I will study it again in case I have it wrong. As we both can't be right. God Bless --airclean33
 
Hi Revsdd---I took my lunch and read up on the Bible. Steve I find the first one to speak in Samaria was Simon the sorcerer.But after him . The Apostle Phillip preached and even Simon believed and all were batized into the church of Christ Jesus. You will also see where Phillip and Simon travled together for a wile Simon seeing sgns and great miacles performed . At the hands of Philip. But what Simon had not seen till Peter and John showed up . Was Gods Holy Spirit baptizing. So Brother even though He had accept Jesus as Lord . Simon still had not recived the Holy Spirit. Untill he seen Peter and John Laying on Hands and praying for GODS Holy Spirit. To see this Steve , I would sugest you need to read from 8: 9--17. By the way Steve a Mirror has only the power to show you where you"v come from . Not to where your going to. May GOD be with you . airclean33-- Gord.
 
Hi revsdd...!

Threads jump a bit as time passes. Let me take a step back.
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Transformation is never complete George. Not in this life anyway. We're all imperfect works in progress. But yes, I believe all Christians have begun the process of transformation under the influence of the Holy Spirit. As for fruits of the Spirit, I see them all over. I'm rather sad for you that you apparently don't.
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As Paul notes: Not that we have already obtained, but we so run that we may obtain; something to that effect.

I suspect you have two categories labelled Christian. One which is conformed to Christianity and one which is born from above. You have the latter in mind when stating that all Christians are in the process of transformation by the Holy Spirit. Is this assumption correct?

I am aware of the Spirit's presence and activity in and through many called and equipped persons in the earth. I do not see much indication of this counter-cultural perspective and initiative in the Christian institution. What I see is a consensus of conformity shaped by interests and powers at substantial variance with the leading of the Holy Spirit.

You suggest that I apparently do not see the fruits of the spirit. By what indications?

George
 
This is better .... revsdd and GeoFee ......
Now this will be a conversation worth following.....
Regards
Rita
 
airclean33 said:
Hi Revsdd ... a Mirror has only the power to show you where you"v come from . Not to where your going to. May GOD be with you . airclean33-- Gord.
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Love it Airclean, that's profound. But the thing with mirrors is that you never know which image to focus on. Our reflection we see in the mirror is an illusion, both physically (depending on the quality of the mirror), and philosophically- if you see yourself from the inside then you can see where your going and not where you've come from.

Edit to add: or can you see both?
 
Neo said:
Love it Airclean, that's profound. But the thing with mirrors is that you never know which image to focus on. Our reflection we see in the mirror is an illusion, both physically (depending on the quality of the mirror), and philosophically- if you see yourself from the inside then you can see where your going and not where you've come from.

Edit to add: or can you see both?
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Hi Neo--I understand you have a thing with mirrors. My Blief is GOD made you and me 6.000 years ago or so. He put us here and now, because thats when He wanted us here. He has a plan thats been going on much longer than that Neo. I also believe it is no where near done. GOD knows and can see what is to be . Because He makes it so. We have no need to see ahead or things that will be. We have but to, Take His Hand and follow Him. He is still working on it even now. We will know all that He whats us to know in His time. God Bless.---airclean33
 
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