The $10 meal challenge
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Pinga
Room for All
Pr. Jae. It wasn't thread policing. Glad you continue to be a twit though, wouldn't want you to try and change your behaviour.
You are trying to relate them with your standard sanctimonius crap.
It was predictable where you were headed with your comment.
Some would argue that your requirement for them to hve to come in and eat with you to be fed is an unfair requirement. Do you preach while they are tehre? Hand out pamphlets?
You are trying to relate them with your standard sanctimonius crap.
It was predictable where you were headed with your comment.
Some would argue that your requirement for them to hve to come in and eat with you to be fed is an unfair requirement. Do you preach while they are tehre? Hand out pamphlets?
Pinga, I am choosing to respond to you via Wondermail. For here all I will say is have a good night.
Good point. My first thought was Ramen noodles but you'd still need a cooking pot and clean water. I guess a loaf of bread and peanut butter would make the money stretch, also cereal perhaps without the milk.
Peanut butter is a really good thing to have around. Heck, you can even eat it with a spoon. 
Mmm... Or without! *licks fingers*Peanut butter is a really good thing to have around. Heck, you can even eat it with a spoon.
Seeler
Well-Known Member
Actually Pinga at my church these two items are very much a related part of our outreach program.
We interview aand register the people coming in - a first step in getting to know them and to try to address their needs (usually a social worker drops in for the morning and is available to talk to people about a wide range of services (housing, health care, community foodbanks)
We give out vouchers for the local store (each person only receives a voucher once every three months)
We also have available a small selection of canned or non-perishable food.
And -
we offer a hot noon meal once a month whether a person is eligible for a voucher or not (and some of us regular volunteers sit and eat lunch with our clients)
And - (my specialty) we invite a dozen or so to sign up for cooking - they come early and are provided with a recipe and ingredients to make a dish (casserole, soup, or (this fall) strawberry rhubarb dessert to take home with them. We thought of this at first as being a cooking class - but found out our clients didn't need someone to teach them how to cook - they needed an opportunity.
We also have a Saturday evening social drop-in that many of our clients attend. People drop-in to play pool or cards, or sit around and visit. We provide snacks - some healthy vegie or fruit trays - some the same as many people eat in the evening - pop and chips. A local restaurant sends over a harty lunch (usually sandwiches or wraps).
Some people who use our services are long time church members who have fallen on hard times. Others who begin by attending our Wednesdays and/or our Saturday evening drop-in start attending Sunday worship. Some others tell us that they attend other denominations (or non-denominational churches). But for most we don't ask and they don't offer this information. All are treated alike.
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Vosper ignored my commentary on everything too!
Vosper ignored my commentary on everything too!
That sounds excellent Seeler. Props to you and your church
What we do...
...hold a free Wednesday night meal that everyone in the community is welcome to come and enjoy. We follow this up with a nice Bible study.
...hold a free monthly potluck dinner after morning worship that, again, everyone in the community is welcome to come and enjoy.
...Serve a free full breakfast once a month during the winter months at the local seniors' residence of metro housing. Everyone is welcome to come help serve.
...Keep a benevolent fund that people can request assistance from.
Pinga
Room for All
PRJae, is there a logicla break between the meal and the bible study, which allows for those who wish to leave, the ability to do so? Are they in different rooms?
Ditto for the potluck dinner. How many just come for the dinner and do not attend worship?
I note that Seeler's description had no connection between the service and biblestudy or worship. The act of service was what the events were about.
Ditto for the potluck dinner. How many just come for the dinner and do not attend worship?
I note that Seeler's description had no connection between the service and biblestudy or worship. The act of service was what the events were about.
Pinga...
...when it comes to the Wednesday night suppers, there is a very short break between the suppers and the Bible studies. Supper goes from 6:30pm, followed by worship at 7:05pm (music and prayer), followed by a video at 7:30pm, followed by a participatory talk from our Senior Pastor at 8:00pm, followed by dessert at 8:30pm. We hold the suppers in our basement Fellowship Hall. We hold our worship and main Bible study in our main floor Worship Space (our youth break off to have their own Bible study in the basement Youth Room)...
Will write more later.
Pinga
Room for All
so, if you want dessert, you have to sit thorugh worship? Can they take it to go and say no thanks to the worship?
Pinga
Room for All
@Seeler
You referenced them being related as they are a full part of your spectrum of services and integration into other services in your downtown core. I get that. Our church in the core did the same for an extended period of time until the core that had built up the services in the church moved to construction of a downtown shelter and full service faciity with proper equipment.
At no point was there an expectation of the people to have to be with us in the church faith items. Yes, there was community, such as playing cards; and of course, people knew church was sunday and at the time sat night, but...again, no requirement or even carrot, such as food prior to a worship, or after it.
So, yes, they go together in your space because of location and integration.
In a church which is not part of the core, it may not go together. It would be more realistic for a church in that location to make food to take elsewhere or to raise funds for a program such as yours, or offers to help in yours.
You referenced them being related as they are a full part of your spectrum of services and integration into other services in your downtown core. I get that. Our church in the core did the same for an extended period of time until the core that had built up the services in the church moved to construction of a downtown shelter and full service faciity with proper equipment.
At no point was there an expectation of the people to have to be with us in the church faith items. Yes, there was community, such as playing cards; and of course, people knew church was sunday and at the time sat night, but...again, no requirement or even carrot, such as food prior to a worship, or after it.
So, yes, they go together in your space because of location and integration.
In a church which is not part of the core, it may not go together. It would be more realistic for a church in that location to make food to take elsewhere or to raise funds for a program such as yours, or offers to help in yours.
crazyheart
Rest In Peace: tomorrow,tomorrow
@Pr.jae , what is
"a nice Bible study."
This tickled my funny bone.
Food attached to service ( like Alpha) is proselizing - no matter which way you cut it.
"a nice Bible study."
This tickled my funny bone.
Food attached to service ( like Alpha) is proselizing - no matter which way you cut it.
Pinga
Room for All
and.......i realize that I followed the trail to take this thread way off track My apologies mrs. anteater.
I wonder about the $10. It previous years, I might have to used it for tampons or pads.
You know, i bet folks don't spent money on Poise or other items...if faced with food or toothpaste.....you'd probably for for food.
I wonder about the $10. It previous years, I might have to used it for tampons or pads.
You know, i bet folks don't spent money on Poise or other items...if faced with food or toothpaste.....you'd probably for for food.
No one has to sit through worship. Instead of joining us for worship in the main floor Worship Space, they may wait in the basement Fellowship Hall. However, we do not serve dessert until after the Senior Pastor's participatory talk is finished.
Greywolf336
Well-Known Member
My initial thought for those with cooking facilities is,
1 jar of the cheapest pasta sauce
1 jar of peanut butter
1 package of soft shell tacos
1 package pasta
1 container parmasean
Now I know this would be over If nothing was on sale, but if you were able to find sales definitely doable. The taco shells can be used for peanut butter sandwhiches but can also be uses for the base of a pasta sauce and parmasean pizza when cooked in the oven allowing for a few different meals from each ingredient. Perhaps not the healthiest choices but gives multiple meals and some variety.
1 jar of the cheapest pasta sauce
1 jar of peanut butter
1 package of soft shell tacos
1 package pasta
1 container parmasean
Now I know this would be over If nothing was on sale, but if you were able to find sales definitely doable. The taco shells can be used for peanut butter sandwhiches but can also be uses for the base of a pasta sauce and parmasean pizza when cooked in the oven allowing for a few different meals from each ingredient. Perhaps not the healthiest choices but gives multiple meals and some variety.
Our Bible studies are video series crazyheart, and we obtain them from standard evangelical sources. We've never run Alpha. I feel the closest thing we've had to that would be Christianity Explored.
To continue on from where I was... No one is under any obligation to attend worship and Bible study to receive a free supper. Our free suppers are just that - free. After supper, most folks join us for worship, but some stay downstairs to chat, clean up, and/or rest. Certainly we invite and encourage everyone to join us upstairs, but, again, there's no obligation for them too.
Will write about Sunday Fellowship Dinners later.
I volunteer for a lunch outreach project once a month - for the past few years - with UCCan, and even there, there is a brief talk (sermon) and prayer given by a minister before lunch, and often welcoming them to come on Sunday or another event during the week. It is church, there's nothing wrong with that, imo. It's usually "sermon lite", and short. But there is no trying to "convert" anyone. They are regulars, and almost a congregation within a congregation. Friends who have gotten to know each other through this monthly lunch.
We also don't give people lunch to go because we only have enough for the room capacity and it would be too hard to keep track. Food would then likely run out before everyone sat down. It's a popular event and on a busy street corner. Someone wanted to distribute food to go to people outside who were asking - but we have a budget and have to be careful not to run out too fast, so had to say no to that idea. They'd be welcome to come in. Dessert - usually cookies or squares. People will wrap them in a napkin and take them with them. We give out leftovers to whoever asks if there are any. We used to ensure volunteers got to eat, but unless they need the food, which we usually don't - there's been more focus on trying to ensure everyone who comes in gets something to eat before volunteers get to eat. That used to tick off a few volunteers who felt it was a reward they are entitled to for volunteering, because it was a long established practice, but it's shifted a bit.
We also don't give people lunch to go because we only have enough for the room capacity and it would be too hard to keep track. Food would then likely run out before everyone sat down. It's a popular event and on a busy street corner. Someone wanted to distribute food to go to people outside who were asking - but we have a budget and have to be careful not to run out too fast, so had to say no to that idea. They'd be welcome to come in. Dessert - usually cookies or squares. People will wrap them in a napkin and take them with them. We give out leftovers to whoever asks if there are any. We used to ensure volunteers got to eat, but unless they need the food, which we usually don't - there's been more focus on trying to ensure everyone who comes in gets something to eat before volunteers get to eat. That used to tick off a few volunteers who felt it was a reward they are entitled to for volunteering, because it was a long established practice, but it's shifted a bit.