Snoopy Examines Exodus

Welcome to Wondercafe2!

A community where we discuss, share, and have some fun together. Join today and become a part of it!

Status
Not open for further replies.
A poetic interpretation of transforming moving clouds as clouds evolve into an unusual thunder storm with lightning seemign to beckon them onward?
 
A poetic interpretation of transforming moving clouds as clouds evolve into an unusual thunder storm with lightning seemign to beckon them onward?
I like this one, actually. Interpreting phenomena in the sky was a thing in most ancient culture and this fits that quite nicely.
 
Did you get this from a Jewish source? Because that is the way to know what they mean for them (and really one would need to consult a variety of sources because just like Christianity there is not one Jewish interpretation of anything)
The information I know comes from my time at seminary and from working one summer at Camp Reena. I grasp the importance of accurate information, so if it helps, I can always ask for your sources too. Let’s ensure we’re both on the same page and learning together
 
Assuming that God only communicates with Christians again I see...
GordW ----In the Old Testament God communicated with people who covered their sin by animal sacrifices ----Sin even in the Old Testament was a block for God communicating with you ----and that is the Same today ----God didn't change His way of Communicating with people ----

God is Holy and of course God is God and can do as He wishes -----but if God says in His word that sin blocks you from hearing from God and He breaks His word ---then that would make God a liar and His word nil in void -----here you see sin hides God's face from people --so He is not communicating with sinners who have not covered their Sin by either the shed blood of animals in the Old Testament and or by the Shed blood of Jesus in the New Testament

Isaiah 59:2
AMP
But your wickedness has separated you from your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.

So if God is not hearing --the He isn't Communicating

Numbers 23:19 ERV​

19 God is not a man;
he will not lie.
God is not a human being;
his decisions will not change.
 
Today you need to receive Jesus in your heart to have God's guidance in this present day ---When you receive Jesus in your heart you are indwelled with the Holy spirit who then Guides the person in their God given leadership ----

God dealt directly with the people in the Old Testament ---that has changed since God sent his Son to be the bridge to reconnect us to God -----without receiving Jesus your leadership is directed by the god of this world -----
Well said, @unsafe. Receiving Jesus into your heart's a transformative step that opens the door to God’s guidance. When you accept Jesus, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell within you, providing divine direction.

With the coming of Jesus, we now have a friendship with God through His Son. Jesus's the bridge that reconnects us to God, offering us rescue and a new way of living
 
Well said, @unsafe. Receiving Jesus into your heart's a transformative step that opens the door to God’s guidance. When you accept Jesus, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell within you, providing divine direction.

With the coming of Jesus, we now have a friendship with God through His Son. Jesus's the bridge that reconnects us to God, offering us rescue and a new way of living
ANd we are talking about a text that is also sacred to people for whom Jesus is not the way to communicate with God. How do we think GOd continues to communicate to the people of Jewish faith and offer them hope, forgiveness, liberation?
Then there are other faith groups but that seems beyond this thread
 
ANd we are talking about a text that is also sacred to people for whom Jesus is not the way to communicate with God. How do we think GOd continues to communicate to the people of Jewish faith and offer them hope, forgiveness, liberation?
Then there are other faith groups but that seems beyond this thread
God’s love extends to all people. We Christians believe that God continues to communicate his love through various means. They include Scripture, prayer and worship, community and tradition, and acts of kindness and justice.

We Christians also believe that Jesus's the ultimate revelation of God’s love and the bridge to a restored friendship with him. We're called to share the hope we've found in Christ with respect
 
How do we think GOd continues to communicate to the people of Jewish faith and offer them hope, forgiveness, liberation?
Then there are other faith groups but that seems beyond this thread
GordW ----Interesting read here ---maybe this will answer your Question -----

If the Jewish people do not offer animal sacrifices, how do they believe they can receive forgiveness from God?​


For all intents and purposes, the Jewish practice of animal sacrifice ended in AD 70, the year that the Romans destroyed the temple in Jerusalem. With the temple gone, there is no longer a place for the sacrifices to be offered according to the Mosaic Law (see Deuteronomy 12:13–14). Repeatedly in the Old Testament, the point is made that sacrifices were required to make atonement for sin (e.g., Exodus 29:36; Leviticus 4:31; 9:7; 14:19; 15:15; Numbers 15:25). The shedding of blood is what consecrated things and people to the Lord (Leviticus 16:19; cf. Hebrews 9:22).

With no blood sacrifice today, the Jews have no lawful way of atoning for their sin.

Passover is still observed, but without the sacrifice. Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement) is still on the calendar, but there is never an offering made for sin.

The stipulations of the Mosaic Law remain unchanged, but the Jewish people cannot make things right with God—they cannot find forgiveness—without an animal sacrifice.

Modern Jews believe that forgiveness of sin is obtained through repentance, prayer, and good deeds.

They use verses like Hosea 6:6 to devalue the need for sacrifices: “I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.” Still, it is hard to overlook such passages as Leviticus 17:11, “The life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.”

The fact remains that there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood (Hebrews 9:22).

The animal sacrifices of the Old Covenant have been replaced by the once-for-all sacrifice for sin given by Jesus, the Messiah. As Jesus established the New Covenant,

He “died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant” (Hebrews 9:15).

Within a generation of Christ’s sacrifice, the Jewish temple was destroyed; the need for animal sacrifices no longer existed, for Christ had fulfilled the righteous requirements of the Law (Matthew 5:17).

Animal sacrifices were merely a type of the perfect Sacrifice—the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world (John 1:29). The sacrifice of Christ paid the debt of sin for all mankind, both Jew and Gentile (Romans 1:16; Hebrews 9:12–15).

I say ----God cannot communicate with the Jews who have not received Jesus because their Sin turns God's Face away from them ---As per Scripture in Isaiah 59:2-----

God still Agapes them like He does all sinners and He does keep His Covenant with the 12 tribes of Israel during the 7 year Tribulation --144,000 Jews are marked and preach the Gospel during the Tribulation and are saved ------
 
Who else does the Bible tell us that the Holy Spirit works in?
The bible informs my faith but is not the sum total of my faith. Remember the Wesley quadrilateral? Scripture, tradition, experience and reason.

Feel free to explain what the bible has to say about the workings of the Holy Spirit.
 
The bible informs my faith but is not the sum total of my faith. Remember the Wesley quadrilateral? Scripture, tradition, experience and reason.

Feel free to explain what the bible has to say about the workings of the Holy Spirit.
Thankfully, I'm not a Wesleyan. I hold that the Bible's the ultimate authority in all matters of faith and religious practice. Which of Scripture, tradition, experience, and/or reason leads you to believe that the Spirit is in non-Christians?

As for the workings of the Holy Spirit, there have been whole university and seminary courses on those.

That said, I’d be happy to share a short summary of what the Bible says about the Spirit's workings.

The Holy Spirit's the third Person of the Trinity, working to guide Christians.

The Spirit convicts the world of sin, goodness, and judgment. This conviction leads people to recognize their need for a Rescuer.

The Spirit's involved in the process of being born again. Jesus told Nicodemus that one must be born of the Spirit to enter God's Kingdom.

Upon accepting Christ, the Spirit dwells within Christians, marking us as God’s children. This indwelling presence's a guarantee of Christians' inheritance in Christ.

The Spirit guides us Christians into all truth and teaches us all things. She helps us grasp and apply God’s Word in our lives.

The Spirit empowers us for service and witness, enabling us to be Christ’s witnesses to the earth's ends.

The Spirit works in us to produce the Spirit's fruit, changing us to be more like Christ. This process is ongoing throughout our lives.

The Spirit’s work's essential for our spiritual growth and effectiveness in participating in God's mission. As we yield to her leading, we experience her power in our daily lives
 
Feel free to explain what the bible has to say about the workings of the Holy Spirit


Read more at >>> 70 Functions of the Holy Spirit

In her book, Spiritual Revolution Patricia King shows really good Biblical research on the function of the Holy Spirit. This list of the 70 Functions of the Holy Spirit come from her research.

  1. He leads and directs. (Matthew 4:1; Mark 1:12; Luke 2:27; 4:1; Acts 8:29; Romans 8:14)
  2. The Holy Spirit speaks – in, to and through. (Matthew 10:20; Acts 1:16; 2:4; 13:2; 28:25; Hebrews 3:7)
  3. He gives power to cast out devils. (Matthew 12:28)
  4. He releases power. (Luke 4:14)
  5. The Holy Spirit anoints. (Luke 4:18; Acts 10:38)
  6. The Holy Spirit “comes upon” or “falls on”. (Matthew 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 2:25; 3:22; 4:18; John 1:32,33; Acts 10:44; 11:15)
  7. He baptizes and fills. (Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; Luke 1:15,41,67; 3:16, 4:1; John 1:33; Acts 1:4-5; 2:4; 4:8,31; 6:3,5; 7:55; 10:47; 11:24; 13:9,52; 1 Corinthians 12:12)
  8. He gives new birth. (John 3:5,8)
  9. He leads into worship. (John 4:23)
  10. He flows like a river from the spirit man. (John 7:38-39)
  11. He ministers truth. (John 14:17; 15:26; 16:13)
  12. He dwells in people. (John 14:17; Romans 8:9,11; 1 Corinthians 3:16)
  13. The Holy Spirit gives comfort, health, and strength. (John 15:26; Acts 9:31)
  14. He proceeds from the Father. (John 15:26)
  15. He shows us things to come. (John 16:13)
  16. He gives the gift of tongues. (Acts 2:4)
  17. He releases prophecy, dreams and visions. (Acts 2:17,18; 11:28)
  18. He can transport people physically. (Acts 8:39)
  19. The Holy Spirit brings direction and guidance. (Mark 13:36; 13:11; Acts 10:19; 11:12; 21:11; 1 Timothy 4:1
  20. He is Holiness. (Romans 1:4)
  21. He is the Spirit of life and gives life. (Romans 8:1,10)
  22. The Holy Spirit invites us to walk with Him. (Romans 8:4-5)
  23. He groans, prays and intercedes. (Romans 8:26-27)
  24. He is a Sword. (Ephesians 6:17)
  25. The Holy Spirit produces fruit in our lives. (Galatians 5:22-23; Ephesians 5:9)
  26. He helps us in our weakness. (Romans 8:26)
  27. He bears witness. (Acts 5:32 15:28; 20:23; Romans 8:15-16; Hebrews 10:15; 1 John 4:13; 5:6-8)
  28. He is the Spirit of Adoption. (Romans 8:15)
  29. He gives power to mortify the deeds of the flesh. (Romans 8:13)
  30. He provides power for signs, wonders and preaching. (Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 2:4)
  31. He ministers love. (Romans 15:30)
  32. He searches the deep things of God. (1 Corinthians 2:10)
  33. He quickens the mortal body. (Romans 8:13)
  34. He brings revelation. (Luke 2:25; 1 COrinthians 2:10,12; Ephesians 1:17-19; 3:5)
  35. The Holy Spirit reveals to us what has been given by God. (1 Corinthians 2:12)
  36. He washes, sanctifies, purifies and justifies. (Romans 15;16, 1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 Peter 1:2,22)
  37. He gives gifts. (1 Corinthians 12:4-11; Hebrews 2:4)
  38. He seals us. (2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 4:30)
  39. He is liberty. (2 Corinthians 3:17)
  40. He changes us into the image of Christ. (2 Corinthians 3:17)
  41. He is the promise of the blessing of Abraham. (Galatians 3:14)
  42. He releases a cry to the Father. (Galatians 4:6)
  43. He gives access to the Father. (Ephesians 2:18)
  44. The Holy Spirit builds us together for a house for God. (Ephesians 2:22)
  45. He strengthens us with might. (Ephesians 3:16)
  46. He is unity. (Ephesians 4:3-4)
  47. He is wine. (Ephesians 5:18)
  48. He supplies. (Philippians 1:19)
  49. He is fellowship. (2 Corinthians 13;14; Philippians 2:1)
  50. He is grace. (Hebrews 10:29)
  51. He is glory. (1 Peter 4:14)
  52. The Holy Spirit speaks to the churches. (Revelation 2:11,17,29; 3:6,13,22)
  53. He calls for the Bridegroom. (Revelation 22:17)
  54. The Holy Spirit has the power of conception and anointing for God’s purposes. (Matthew 1:18,20; Luke 1:35)
  55. He teaches. (Luke 12:12; John 14:26; 1 Corinthians 2:13; 1 John 2:27)
  56. He gives commandments. (Acts 1:2)
  57. He provides power to be a witness. (Acts 1:8)
  58. He provides boldness. (Acts 4:31)
  59. He give sight. (Acts 9:17)
  60. He commissions. (Acts 13:4)
  61. He restrains. (Acts 16:6)
  62. He appoints ministries and gives them authority. (Acts 20:28)
  63. He releases love. (Romans 5:5)
  64. He is righteousness, peace and joy. (Romans 14:17; 15:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:6)
  65. He confesses Christ’s Lordship. (1 Corinthians 12:3)
  66. The Holy Spirit brings the gospel. (1 Thessalonians 1:5-6)
  67. He is keeping power. (2 Timothy 1:14)
  68. He brings renewal. (Titus 3:5)
  69. He moves on believers. (2 Peter 1:21)
  70. He convicts the world. (John 16:8)


Read more at >>> 70 Functions of the Holy Spirit
 
King Darius?
No one had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament ---the Holy Spirit came upon people to do God's work and then left

This King did not have the Holy Spirit -----he was not a Jew ---he was a friend of the Jews and helped them -----

What Empire Did King Darius Rule?​

While King Darius I, or Darius the Great, mentioned in Ezra, was the longer reigning monarch, he is lesser known in biblical history. Along with Cyrus,

King Darius was instrumental in helping the Jews, under the leadership of Zerubbabel, to rebuild, especially the temple. It appears he was generous and supportive of the remnant who returned.

The King Darius that most Bible readers think of first when the name is mentioned is the king in Daniel.

King Darius, Darius the Mede, was an ancient king during the Persian empire.
 
The daughter of the Pharaoh.

Don't see anything in this scripture about her having the Holy Spirit ----later she goes with Moses and God shows her mercy but she never has the Holy Spirit ----

Exodus 2​

Pharaoh’s Daughter Adopts Moses​

 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top