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I like this one, actually. Interpreting phenomena in the sky was a thing in most ancient culture and this fits that quite nicely.A poetic interpretation of transforming moving clouds as clouds evolve into an unusual thunder storm with lightning seemign to beckon them onward?
The information I know comes from my time at seminary and from working one summer at Camp Reena. I grasp the importance of accurate information, so if it helps, I can always ask for your sources too. Let’s ensure we’re both on the same page and learning togetherDid you get this from a Jewish source? Because that is the way to know what they mean for them (and really one would need to consult a variety of sources because just like Christianity there is not one Jewish interpretation of anything)
GordW ----In the Old Testament God communicated with people who covered their sin by animal sacrifices ----Sin even in the Old Testament was a block for God communicating with you ----and that is the Same today ----God didn't change His way of Communicating with people ----Assuming that God only communicates with Christians again I see...
Well said, @unsafe. Receiving Jesus into your heart's a transformative step that opens the door to God’s guidance. When you accept Jesus, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell within you, providing divine direction.Today you need to receive Jesus in your heart to have God's guidance in this present day ---When you receive Jesus in your heart you are indwelled with the Holy spirit who then Guides the person in their God given leadership ----
God dealt directly with the people in the Old Testament ---that has changed since God sent his Son to be the bridge to reconnect us to God -----without receiving Jesus your leadership is directed by the god of this world -----
ANd we are talking about a text that is also sacred to people for whom Jesus is not the way to communicate with God. How do we think GOd continues to communicate to the people of Jewish faith and offer them hope, forgiveness, liberation?Well said, @unsafe. Receiving Jesus into your heart's a transformative step that opens the door to God’s guidance. When you accept Jesus, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell within you, providing divine direction.
With the coming of Jesus, we now have a friendship with God through His Son. Jesus's the bridge that reconnects us to God, offering us rescue and a new way of living
God’s love extends to all people. We Christians believe that God continues to communicate his love through various means. They include Scripture, prayer and worship, community and tradition, and acts of kindness and justice.ANd we are talking about a text that is also sacred to people for whom Jesus is not the way to communicate with God. How do we think GOd continues to communicate to the people of Jewish faith and offer them hope, forgiveness, liberation?
Then there are other faith groups but that seems beyond this thread
The "others" being Christians outside the UCCanada?Really love the line in the New Creed which states "We believe in God who works in us and others through the Spirit."
My interpretation would be broader.The "others" being Christians outside the UCCanada?
Who else does the Bible tell us that the Holy Spirit works in?My interpretation would be broader.
GordW ----Interesting read here ---maybe this will answer your Question -----How do we think GOd continues to communicate to the people of Jewish faith and offer them hope, forgiveness, liberation?
Then there are other faith groups but that seems beyond this thread
The bible informs my faith but is not the sum total of my faith. Remember the Wesley quadrilateral? Scripture, tradition, experience and reason.Who else does the Bible tell us that the Holy Spirit works in?
Thankfully, I'm not a Wesleyan. I hold that the Bible's the ultimate authority in all matters of faith and religious practice. Which of Scripture, tradition, experience, and/or reason leads you to believe that the Spirit is in non-Christians?The bible informs my faith but is not the sum total of my faith. Remember the Wesley quadrilateral? Scripture, tradition, experience and reason.
Feel free to explain what the bible has to say about the workings of the Holy Spirit.
King Darius? Other rulers of Assyria and Babylon and Persia.Who else does the Bible tell us that the Holy Spirit works in?
Feel free to explain what the bible has to say about the workings of the Holy Spirit
No one had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament ---the Holy Spirit came upon people to do God's work and then leftKing Darius?