Snoopy Examines Exodus

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paradox3 said:
Rev John often pointed out that God's judgement and God's grace go hand in hand. I surely miss his posts on WC2.
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I'm trying to wrap my head around that one. I think it's more fair to say that God's judgement and God's mercy go hand in hand. God knows the punishment that we should get but He never gives out the full measure of that
 
On the multigenerational thing, I have been thinking about family stories.

In my case, my parents were born in Canada but three of my grandparents were immigrants.

So I grew up hearing the stories of them crossing the Atlantic, living as new Canadians and so on. I clearly remember my paternal grandmother taking a trip to England in 1964.

My own children are aware of these things but basically consider it all ancient history. For me, the stories contribute to my worldview.

Other things also fade in significance down the family line. I think of my grandfather's WW1 experience, the depression years and my uncles serving in WW2. These things were all before my time, but I witnessed their impact on my parents.

Sorry if this seems like a roundabout way to address Exodus 34:1-7.

Any other thoughts on the passage? I will wait until tomorrow morning to move on in the text.
 
paradox3 said:
Well @unsafe we see this quite differently. Often happens, doesn't it?
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Yes it does and that is Ok ----as I said this is hard teaching and not acceptable to most people----

You are such an asset to this sight so keep doing what your doing ---

So enjoy your enthusiasm about Scripture and that is what matters -----the agreeing and disagreeing is part of our perception on how we view the scripture by what lens we are viewing it from -----

We will only know the real truth when we ourselves experience what if anything is on the other side of this Physical realm ----Scripture says there is something ----Many believe there is nothing -----so there you have it -----the difference in peoples perception and beliefs -- :angel:
 
We see first through a glass darkly, and then face to face, right? :)

Some biblical translations have "as an image in a mirror" but I like the language of the KJV.

1 Corinthians 13:12
 
paradox3 said:
We see first through a glass darkly, and then face to face, right? :)

Some biblical translations have "as an image in a mirror" but I like the language of the KJV.

1 Corinthians 13:12
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And then there's The Message, "We don’t yet see things clearly. We’re squinting in a fog, peering through a mist."
 
With the glass or mirror we might see something of God in our own image reflected back (Albeit "darkly" in KJV)

Squinting in a fog or peering through a mist doesn't carry this nuance but I generally like The Message
 
paradox3 said:
We see first through a glass darkly, and then face to face, right? :)

Some biblical translations have "as an image in a mirror" but I like the language of the KJV.

1 Corinthians 13:12
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Yes ----we do not know God Fully --we only have partial knowledge of God in our Human form -but we will know Him more fully when we meet Him face to face in our Spiritual Form --

That may bring comfort to some ----and for others it may bring great fear -----so again it is all in what lens we view God in and how God is perceived -----that is how I see it --
 
Exodus 34:8-13
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Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 34:8-13 - New English Translation

Moses quickly bowed to the ground and worshiped and said, “If now I have found favor in your sight, O Lord, let my Lord go among us, for we are a stiff-necked people; pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for your inheritance.” He said, “See, I am going to make a covenant before all your...
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Moses bows to God and worships. He asks for God's presence and he requests pardon for the people.

God promises a Covenant and to do wonders which have never been seen on the earth.

The Israelites must obey God and God will drive out the Amorite, the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite. The people are cautioned not to make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land.

Rather, they must destroy their altars, smash their images and cut down their Asherah (Canaanite goddess) poles.
 
Snoopy's Snappy Review: Exodus 34:8-13

A disturbing passage which sure looks like settler colonial violence. :rolleyes:
 
One thing I really like about this passage is the plea Moses made to God. Moses asked for God's presence and God's pardon. And not only for himself but for the people.

Seems to me like an extremely appropriate prayer for us in our time.
 
paradox3 said:
One thing I really like about this passage is the plea Moses made to God. Moses asked for God's presence and God's pardon. And not only for himself but for the people.

Seems to me like an extremely appropriate prayer for us in our time.
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Well it was an appropriate prayer at that time that is for sure as Jesus had not come yet and Moses was dealing directly with God the Father -----

But for today it would Not be an appropriate prayer as God the Father sent His Son to Shed His blood --die on the cross and be resurrected -------So now to be in God's Presents and to be Pardoned we unfortunately have to go through Jesus who paid the price for us to access God's presents and to pardon us -----

You have to be adopted back into God's presents by and through receiving His Son --
 
How about we pray for God's presence and God's pardon in Jesus's name? Does that make a difference?
 
paradox3 said:
How about we pray for God's presence and God's pardon in Jesus's name? Does that make a difference?
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Well if you have been adopted back into the Sheep Fold then you are to pray in Jesus name -

But if we have chosen Not to be adopted back into the Sheep Fold ------

Then what makes us feel that God should allow us to be in His Presents and expect us to be pardoned ?
 
Thanks @unsafe. I see where you are coming from.

But, aye, here's the rub. How do we know who has been adopted back into the sheepfold?

Jesus used many sheep metaphors. We could explore them some time but not on the Exodus thread, please.
 
paradox3 said:
Thanks @unsafe. I see where you are coming from.

But, aye, here's the rub. How do we know who has been adopted back into the sheepfold?
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Your Only a sheep if your God's Child ------and in order to be a child of God Now --you need to be Born Again ---all born again people are adopted back into God's Presents and are pardoned ----

People need to understand that no one in the Old Testament could come into God's Presents or be Pardoned without animal Sacrifices ----the shedding of blood Covered sin for 1 year and gave the israelites the ability to come into God's presents to Pray ----after 1 year they had to repeat the sacrificial ritual to gain access to God's presents----

Now Today receiving Jesus who's shed blood paid the price for sin is the only way a person can be in God's presents and be pardoned -----
 
Just curious
So I ask again ---
-If one Personally Chooses Not to comply with how one can gain access into God's presents and be pardoned ----

What makes one feel that they should be entitled to enter into God's presents and be pardoned without complying to what God has set in place for gaining access to Him ?---
 
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