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airclean33 said:
Nor do I believe Rev that the only way to Learn is through theology' we prey and kneel to a living GOD". Perhaps it is time we understand that. airclean33
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Which nobody has actually claimed. Theology is, the study of God and God's word. I engage it through much prayer and by studying the works of those who have gone before me.

Which is the whole point I have been making. My time in seminary differs only from my time in a congregation in that the level of knowledge available to me at Seminary and through the university is far deeper than what I could hope to find in an average congregation. Particularly an academic understanding. Pastorally, time in congregation surpasses the strictly academic experience. My strength as a student was being able to use both experiences to my advantage and not mine alone.

The wisdom I have acquired academically and pastorally makes me a greater resource to God's church and the people within it.

Am I better? Nope. I have never claimed that.

Am I more knowledgeable? Depends on whom I am being compared to. Not that it is a competition. All of God's saints are supposed to be working together. Even when there is disagreement as to how to move forward.
 
airclean33 said:
Who should disagree with the passage Unsafe's gave us?
Is it not by God we are to learn'? The Teacher is Gods Holy Spirit. IT WILL BE WITH YOU ALWAYS.

I know nothing if not by GOD. "ALL GLORY IS HIS".
AMEN Sister. I was just reading this yesterday or this morning.
--Hi Jae I respect your school Jae. But many of these church's I have been in. most of any I was in believe GOD is Father. Jesus is His Son. They each believe many other things. I had a witness come to my door one day 'I said come on in. It was around Christmas that day. So of course I had my tree up. He said why do you put that up? I said because it is almost my Lords birthday. He said we should look in are Bible's. You know what it's not there ? Oh there is Bible teaching that The Christ was born. But no Dec 25. It took me two years of reading to find out what is going on. And they say the Jehovah's Witnesses are mix up.
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airclean33 said:
Rev John --Look around at the Christian Church's today . Are they not like Israel" broke in two?
One calls them self's Catholics' and the other Protestant'.
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Technically not broken in two. Different branches on the same vine. And there are more than two branches on that vine. First was the Rome/Byzantium split which distinguished Roman Catholicism from Eastern Orthodoxy. Eastern Orthodoxy has experienced further subdivision with Oriental Orthodoxy and Assyrian branches. Roman Catholicism experienced tremendous subdivision through the Reformation. And many of those new shoots sent out their own shoots.

Which is how a family tree looks when you diagram it.

While there is disagreement among the theologies expressed in the various branches there is one thing which ties the whole of Christianity together. And that would be the Christ.

airclean33 said:
I believe Jesus The Christ" is Head of all. That is the one Church . We have but one GOD". As did Israel". But even as till this day. They don't yet understand it.
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I don't think that is an entirely accurate understanding of the state of things. Part of the issue has been ecclesial authority. The notion of Papal infallibility being one of the catalysts for subdivisions occuring in the body. Nobody rebelled against Christ. There has been a lot of rebellion against the idea that somebody less than Christ could ever be infallible, among other things.

None of it a rebellion against God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit but all of it could be summarized by disagreements on who properly hears God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit speaking. So, not really different than the disagreements we have here.

airclean33 said:
These are my beliefs Rev. Yes we are free to disagree. Which I believe also there is a reason for disagreeing.
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I concur. There are always reasons for disagreeing. Some might even be thought to be good reasons.

airclean33 said:
We as Brothers should find out why that is. airclean 33 -Gord,
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That would be the most profitable way forward wouldn't it. Of course it is more work. Which probably speaks volumes.
 
airclean33 ---your quote -----Oh there is Bible teaching that The Christ was born. But no Dec 25.

This is interesting ----Rabbi Cahn talks about Jesus Birth in this video -------

Jonathan Cahn (September 26, 2017) - FINAL WARNING: When was Messiah Jesus born

 
Hi,
revjohn said:
Debate doesn't mean disagreement in all things.
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Indeed. Rabbinic Judaism is grounded in debate. By addressing life issues from differing perspective, each had opportunity to deepen understanding. To practice humility and resist pride. Also to strengthen community relations by the practice of going the second mile. We see this in Jesus and the circle of persons gathered to his name. They are different in their appearance. They are united in the Holy Spirit. Not by some doctrine carved immutably into stone or cast in bronze. Each brings forward an identity and ability to serve the common goal. The full inclusion of all persons in the gracious love of God.

George
 
Hi Rev John--Your -Post
airclean33 said:
We as Brothers should find out why that is. airclean 33 -Gord,
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John --Post--
That would be the most profitable way forward wouldn't it. Of course it is more work. Which probably speaks volumes.

Airclean--post--
Yes John it would take work. But I believe it is worth doing. For as it is now" we are not upholding Jesus word". Love one another as I have Loved you". We are very willing to kill" one another. Just because they don't believe exactly as we do. The Irish are a good example of this. We should learn this before we think we can love someone' in the world. The church is on the wrong side of Jesus The Christ". Jesus being the one thing we all agree up on.
God Bless--airclean33
 
airclean33 said:
We are very willing to kill" one another. Just because they don't believe exactly as we do. The Irish are a good example of this.
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While I trust that you're speaking of the Catholic/Protestant conflict in northern Ireland, it seems way too much of a blanket statement to simply say, "The Irish."
 
Jae said:
While I trust that you're speaking of the Catholic/Protestant conflict in northern Ireland, it seems way too much of a blanket statement to simply say, "The Irish."
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Hi Jae --I was not putting the Irish down Jae. A part of me ' is Irish . My Grand father on my mothers side was an orange men. The meaning I was trying to put forward . Is all Christ church's are in a mistake against
The Lord Jesus Christ. When we don't show Love to our own Sisters' and Brothers'. I have seen that right here on Wondercafe and wondercafe 2#.
 
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airclean33 ---your quote -----Oh there is Bible teaching that The Christ was born. But no Dec 25.

This is interesting ----Rabbi Cahn talks about Jesus Birth in this video -------

Jonathan Cahn (September 26, 2017) - FINAL WARNING: When was Messiah Jesus born

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This is one of the speakers .I like as well Sister. airclean33-Gord.
 
airclean33 -----your quote ----- When we don't show Love to our own Sisters' and Brothers'. I have seen that right here on Wondercafe and wondercafe 2#.

Amen Brother -----

It is so easy to wear the T-Shirt that says I am a Christian or to say I am a Christian ---but very much harder to walk the talk of I am a Christian ----as we can see right here on this sight which you have pointed out -----We Christians are the worst for bashing --nit picking ---ganging up on ----and lashing out at other Christians and not showing that Agape that is a fruit of the spirit -----

Here is an article -----don't know the author ---don't care ----posted this cause it shows in the title why Christians disagree with other Christians and can't show Agape to their Brothers and Sisters cause they are to busy fighting about which Jesus is right wand which Jesus is wrong ----When there is only one True Jesus -----and one True Agape ---

One Jesus for liberals, another for conservatives
Johnjoe McFadden

unsafe posted one sentence from the article -----read all here

One Jesus for liberals, another for conservatives | Johnjoe McFadden

Religion and politics have always made uneasy bedfellows; yet how can Christians from all shades of the political spectrum reconcile their diverse views with the teachings of a single man?


Sponge Bob says it best ---it takes much practice and commitment and we Christians are to busy to give God the time it takes to master His Word in my view ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------and The Enemy sneaks in and takes over and we are to blinded to see it ------



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I have just read through this entire thread - and I am appalled. APPALLED I say! How could this not have been challenged:

BettetheRed said:
I also love Mark because it's the gospel on which Godspell was based. A favourite movie, a play that I acted in when I was in my early 40s.
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Godspell was largely based on the Gospel of Matthew (some of the material is shared with Mark - but not the parts from the Sermon on the Mount) with a few parables (like the Prodigal Son) from Luke added in.

I'm so thankful I stepped in to correct this. Such heresy must not be allowed to stand unchallenged!
 
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