airclean33
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--Yes Chansen I do misspell not once but many times . Yes now admitting I can't spell worth a
dame. Will you admit you haven't given GOD" a chance ?
Seriously God, you chose them??????
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dame. Will you admit you haven't given GOD" a chance ?
God the word is great ... some of us study it as a means of wisdom about passionate loss of sensitivity ... a goal that some chase to learn to loose everything ... including what little wisdom we have to start with ... and in emotional events ... there some more go ... and thus Sophia is lucked out!
Some would even die to loose that little bit of good sense ... a love to Dei fore? Then in Hebrew de'th is wisdom ... and one has to Dei 've this crazy world to escape emotions ... and still it remains a sticky topic ...
Some would even die to loose that little bit of good sense ... a love to Dei fore? Then in Hebrew de'th is wisdom ... and one has to Dei 've this crazy world to escape emotions ... and still it remains a sticky topic ...
chansen
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I don't care about you spelling mistakes. You mistake meaning. You mistake intent. Seemingly on purpose. Especially with John, who wipes the floor with you every time you cross paths.
I also haven't given Nigerian email scammers a chance. Same thing. Same credibility. Same evidence.
airclean33
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I didn't know they made you and The World as well. Boy you do have strange beliefs.
Even extreme Christians (in pure politic) are told to respect the stranger in the bible ... is that rite to know? However the great healer can end pain ... by absolute removal ... a thought that can be the death of Mias self ... in Miasma this is a cloudy issue ... like cell division and divinity ... thus the split ... few see IT as it be falls th'M ... dark populace of things of frail and lacy nature ... script off?
chansen
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The common response to you would be that you don't believe lots of things, either. My tendency is to point out that you don't believe in other religions, like I don't believe in yours. But I think I understand now that our reasons for not believing in these other religions are different. I don't believe because they also, like Christianity, have no evidence. Your reason is that you believe in Christianity, therefore other religions are false.
In other words, you have the worst reason for believing Christianity, and also the worst reason for not believing anything else. Your world is based on noises, daydreams and thoughtless and uninvestigated choices.
airclean33
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TO Him
I am still in flesh" .I won't be to much longer though I believe". Please don't wait till The Christ Jesus" puts His foot into the atmosphere because" I also believe that is the end of The Lamb. WE are now under GODS Wrath . Rev 19: 11--16..airclean33
- Hi Luce--The day God saved me I had no Idea what was happing. Or what was ahead . I thought when GOD shows up Your going home. By the way it would have been fine with me. But He had something different for me. It may be what my Mother had prayed for years. She prayer for her Three Son's every night "I know because I have heard her. So GOD must of thought "I got a little job for you. Praise Be God. For today I don't ask GOD much any more I just do what He wants to be done . Oh it don't mean I don't make a mistake.
I am still in flesh" .I won't be to much longer though I believe". Please don't wait till The Christ Jesus" puts His foot into the atmosphere because" I also believe that is the end of The Lamb. WE are now under GODS Wrath . Rev 19: 11--16..airclean33
Do you believe that you actually saw God?
airclean33
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--Yes Chansen--I don't know what every one else thinks or believes. I will say something of my belief now . Brother Chansen yes" I know an understand you don't believe we are brothers . But that is wrong Brother for my Father is yours as well. He also Loves you just as you are now. But He has said you must accept your other Brother Jesus The Christ " for your sins . He Has something else to say to you. But just now I am not allowed to tell you. There is a part in that word you throw around. Seek and you will find" Knock and The door will be opened" Ask an you SHELL" Receive .
airclean33
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Hi Jae I am not sure Jae . What's GOD look like? What I seen was something so bright in that basement Jae .I could barely look up . It was in a robe and could not see His face. It may have been an Angel I am not sure Jae . But when He spook" the hair on my arms stood up and I new I was in Gods Presents . I was on my knee working on a burner" somehow I new not to stand. airclean33
chansen
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Imagine if a gas station used that for a marketing slogan.
airclean33
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Interesting. Have you spoken with a pastor or Christian counsellor about this experience?
chansen
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If your joy is full, it's full of acid and it's smoking.
airclean33
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revjohn
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airclean33 said:
Disagreement is fair. Of course your position means that the Jews knew absolutely nothing about their own scriptures which is rather stunning. That they understood them differently than Christians generally do is pretty much a given. That they did not understand them at all is bordering on Anti-Semitism.
How did they misunderstand the Commandment to worship God and God alone?
How did they misunderstand the Commandment to remember the Sabbath and keep it holy?
How did they misunderstand the Commandments not to murder, commit adulter, steal or bear false witness?
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airclean33 said:
And yet, as a boy Jesus is found debating the Law with Priests in the temple and they are amazed by his learning.
And all though his ministry he engages Priests and teachers of the law which rather suggests that understanding was possible prior to his death so I don't think that your notion that the meaning of all scripture was hidden from the Jews is a strong one.
But we are free to disagree right?
revjohn
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airclean33 said:
Oddly, GeoFee who I was conversing with didn't find the mix-up.
And the underlined text (which I presume is what confused you and lead you to conclude that I am mixed up) is clearly communicating a point which I will gladly simplify for you.
In essence, there were figures, throughout the Old Testament who clearly heard the message God was giving and made it their business to share that message with others. Prophets for example. Not every Prophet was true and not every prophecy that came out of a Prophets mouth was of God. For example the False Prophet who led the true Prophet astray to the death of the true Prophet. The True Prophet knew that if he disobeyed he would be killed and yet the False Prophet was able to convince him that God had changed his mind. Jeremiah wrestled with other prophets who were false but had the ear of the King.
So yes. There were good prophets and there were bad prophets.
The same holds true for the priests. Some were exceptional and became exemplars of the priesthood. Others were not exceptional at all and represent more of a stain on the office.
GeoFee likes to deal with generalities. I'm not a fan of generalities because it lumps the righteous in with the wicked.
GeoFee and I are aware of these personal quirks since we have wrestled with scripture (not so much) and its application (more this I think) since we were students together in Seminary. And while we are not always in agreement on interpretation we do not often find ourselves in opposition so much as disagreement. At the end of the day we respect one another, our influences and the integrity we bring to our callings.
The bit about self-interest as a denial mechanism is also, I think, clear. I will try to rephrase it for you.
Self-interest in those entrusted with scripture (which in Judaism is everyone not just the priestly class) leads individuals to interpret scriptures in ways which do not threaten them or challenge them. Everything remains safely as they want it and they are not forced to be transformed by a reading of the text which pushes them further than they want.
It is why the KJV translates Agape in 1 Corinthians 13 as charity rather than love. To much truth to power can be a dangerous thing.
Hope this helps.
If not let me go and I will try to explain again.
revjohn
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airclean33 said:
Probably not as much as you think. Because I would choose one over the other it does not follow that I think one is worthless. I didn't get to sit at Jesus' feet for three years. So I have sat at the feet of disciples of disciples of disciples of disciples who sat at the feet of Jesus. Paul didn't get three years of sitting at Jesus' feet. He sat at the feet of disciples of Jesus and before that he sat at the feet of Gamaliel.
He made the best of what he was given and based on the fact he is responsible for more material contained in the NT than anyone else I would have to say he did exceedingly well for someone who did not get to sit at the literal feet of Jesus.
Unless you are much older you didn't sit at the literal feet of Jesus. Like myself you were taught by a disciple of a disciple of a disciple of a disciple.
Which doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit hasn't participated in your learning process. Nor does it mean that the Holy Spirit has been absent from mine.
Is disagreement with stern leadership?
Can we disagree with the god of the unknown?
Is the darker side of sol an enigma ? Then what's stranger than this metaphor of psyche ...?
Will psyche get disagreeable over the disrespect from those going after the dark side, singularity, as an area of passion?