Salvation and Calvin

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Escape mechanism? Duque ... it is different in French ... dipping into parse 's ... Paris after midnight? You'll never know ho'oL rat on whom ... wom'beas ...
simulates the debate over du m with B's ... b'eastly ... rise to morn ... loaded with essence from the dark side ... pies and what? Pickled phetch ... like birth of cabbaging ... little ones under le aph ... eleaph 've the beast!? Someone's go to go ... purged? Folly ...

Mortal can't get over production reactions ... abre action ... fringe relations. Did you know abreaction is a word? Hold your bre there ... for something could emanate ... occult feelings? Simply mysterious as unfathomed as yet i ... aye! Golf igure ... right in theole thing ... mean game given the depositions ...
Scripture, Luce, says, “The light shines in the darkness. The darkness hasn't overcome it.

I know that mystery without grounding's folly.

Abreaction, occult emanations and beasts are echoes of the human struggle with sin and the longing for transcendence.

Calvin taught that our only true escape mechanism's grace. It's Christ who purges the folly and redeems the mortal reactions.

The essence you seek's in the One who brings morning after midnight
 
Heh, heh, if you look inside a human ... it's dark in there not light until opened up ... therefore?

Enigmatic unless they explode ... ever see a human explode ... difficult to diffuse!
 
From Google
What is the argument against Calvinism?

Arguments against Calvinism focus primarily on the system's theological, logical, and moral implications regarding human free will and the character of God.

Problem of Evil and God’s CharacterAuthor of sin:

Critics argue that if God strictly decrees and causes all human actions and events, He logically becomes the direct author or efficient cause of evil Contradiction with divine love:

Philosophers and theologians argue that a God who is completely loving and desires the well-being of all people would not withhold grace from some while choosing others unconditionally. Inconsistent biblical appeals:

Opponents point to scriptures where God pleads with humans to turn from evil and expresses a desire for everyone to repent, arguing this conflicts with a predetermined lack of ability or choice

Human Responsibility and Free Will Loss of moral agency:

Critics state that if individuals do not possess the genuine freedom to choose or reject faith, human beings cannot be considered true moral agents Injustice in judgment: If God determines every choice a person makes, critics question the justice of rewarding or punishing people for actions they had no power to change

Universal Atonement and Biblical Interpretation

Limited atonement: The Calvinist tenet that Christ only died for the elect is heavily contested. Critics -------cite verses stating that Jesus died for the "whole world" or wishes for all to be saved, arguing that grace and atonement are universal in scope.

Resisting grace: Opponents argue that concepts like "irresistible grace" override human volition and turn faith into a mechanical process rather than a meaningful relationship.
Scripture, unsafe, shows that God remains holy and blameless.

Even human rebellion's woven into His redemption plan. This magnifies His glory. He brings light out of darkness.

God freely gives grace to His elect. His love's astonishing. It’s about undeserved inclusion.

God’s sovereignty establishes responsibility. Like clay in the potter’s hands, our lives are real, meaningful and judged rightly.

For me, Calvinism's about trust. It’s resting in the mystery that God's both sovereign and good
So while many may agree with Calvinism ----many disagree with the Theology there Jaebius -------
Excellent. Iron sharpens iron
 
One should know what they are observing when encountering Calvin ... no blind faith there ...
Calvin’s thought’s about ... eyes wide open ... to God’s majesty. For me, it’s a lived awareness that creation's every detail whispers His order and grace. I love the beauty of that. I feel Calvin's words in life's rhythm, in the quiet assurance that faith's grounded in truth.

Observing Calvin's like observing a landscape. You sense the harmony beneath the contours. That’s why Calvinism’s a clear-eyed trust in the One who holds all things together
 
I think Marcus Aurelius put it well:

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
The Reformed vision, WhyCzar, says, "Live well because you’ve been redeemed." God's already chosen, justified and secured salvation for His elect through Christ. That frees them to live beautifully and humbly, out of gratitude for divine mercy.

While Aurelius points us inward to our own virtue, Calvinism points us outward and upward to Christ’s finished work. That shift changes everything
 
True Christian Faith comes from believing in Jesus ---who all by Himself says

John 14:6 Amp​

6 Jesus said to him, “[a]I am the [only] Way [to God] and the [real] Truth and the [real] Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

Read full chapter

If you want to Dispute that GordW ----you need to address your concerns to God ---not this world -----
Once again the Amplified Bible chooses to insert their interpretation into the text. AS I recall, other translators have questioned if the definite article 'the' should be in the text at all which would render Jesus as saying "I am way, truth, life"
Jesus also says in The Good Shepherd Chapter (John 10) that he has other sheep that do not belong to this fold.
 
Once again the Amplified Bible chooses to insert their interpretation into the text
With all due Respect to you GordW -------When all else fails ------Attack ---Attack --Attack -----either the person -- -the Bible usage or the Word itself -----

Blessings :angel:
 
Excellent. Iron sharpens iron
This comes from Proverbs 27:17

As iron sharpens iron,
so one person sharpens another.


Proverbs 27:17's role in spiritual growth?
How does Proverbs 27:17 apply to personal spiritual growth and accountability?

Conclusion
Proverbs 27:17 commands and models a divine process: believers, indwelt by the Spirit, intentionally engage one another so that character is honed, doctrine clarified, and mission advanced.

Personal spiritual growth and authentic accountability are inseparable; when iron meets iron under the Master Smith’s hand, sparks may fly, but a keen edge fit for kingdom service emerges.
 
When one believes in something implicitly it suggests believing in some hinted at, while explicit is a belief in something that has no room for error ... and the bible is it because it cannot be corrupted ... no matter how many versions of it have been produced by questionable authority Regarding something that is intangible, ineffable and unseen to the degree of maximum darkness).

Does that sound like an initiation of uncertainty theory if you slow up and think about it?

Of course the stones demand it ... expect some grinding ...

I am fascinated by some of the literature far beyond that ... even the pictures on the long underground stretch ... ar' cane ?
 
While I lean more to Epicureanism, I do have a fair bit of respect for the Stoics like good ole Marcus, too.

Epicureanism basically argued for a form of materialism, that we have this life to live and that death is the end of it. We should make the best of this life and minimize its pain while looking forward to death as the end of that pain. It also argued that while gods may exist (some Epicureans were basically atheists, other more agnostic), they would be free of the world's suffering and therefore would have nothing to with this world. They were kind of weak on moral theory compared to the Stoics in that they basically espoused a kind of passive hedonism, not actively seeking out pleasure through the proverbial "sex, drugs, and rock'n roll" but rather just from enjoying a simple, somewhat minimalist life. In fact, they argued that the more active, indulgent forms of hedonism were to be avoided as causing pain rather than freeing us from it. So there was no concept of sin or salvation, just a call to live in simplicity and harmony with others, minimize your suffering and that of others, and accept death as the natural end of it all.
Calvinism, Mendalla, sees death as the doorway either into eternal life with Christ or eternal separation from Him. That’s why the language of sin and salvation matters.

Suffering’s bound up with creation's brokenness and redemption's hope.

For me, nature's beauty and friendship's warmth are signposts pointing to the Creator.

Calvinism insists that both virtue and peace find their fulfillment only in Christ
 
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