Resolution - to read the Bible
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ghostofafinn
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You can go on Jewish websites to watch old testament. Noah's ark has scientific underpinnings as does nietsczches interpretation of christianity. Ie both are proven by science why cherry pick when half of the bible is scientifically proven?
On which Jewish websites can one actually watch the Old Testament unfold?
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Does have this blaspheme ... I sense of expansion ... if you can journey well in something that some people believe an imaginary construct ... psyche as an -osis? Tis a difficult cistern as wells ... externalized Sophistic alli zat ion ?
Seeler
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I finished reading Ezekiel last evening. The final chapters didn't seem tohave much of interest to me - too much information about Ezekiel's dream (or vision) of rebuilding the temple, the measurements of the rooms (helpful if someone wants to build a replica but not much for the average reader but not so much for the average peerson looking for info about the development of an understanding of God and relationship), the types of sacrifices to take place in the temple, the duties of the priests (covered in earlier books of scripture).
The book ends on a high note with the glory of God back in the temple, the victory for Israel over its enemies (Gog of Magog?), and the redistribution of the land among the twelve tribes.
The book ends on a high note with the glory of God back in the temple, the victory for Israel over its enemies (Gog of Magog?), and the redistribution of the land among the twelve tribes.
Seeler
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The book of the prophet Joel is only three chapters long, an easy read in one sitting.
It begins with a lament. The land is being destroyed by drought and locusts, and being overrun by other nations. The people are advised to pray to the Lord. They are promised that the day of the Lord is coming. They should beat their plowshares into swords and their pruning hooks into spears. Opposite to Isaiah) to defeat the invaders so the land can be restored.
Joel is often read at Pentecost. "I will pour out my spirit upon them, the old men will dream dreams and the young men will see visions."
It begins with a lament. The land is being destroyed by drought and locusts, and being overrun by other nations. The people are advised to pray to the Lord. They are promised that the day of the Lord is coming. They should beat their plowshares into swords and their pruning hooks into spears. Opposite to Isaiah) to defeat the invaders so the land can be restored.
Joel is often read at Pentecost. "I will pour out my spirit upon them, the old men will dream dreams and the young men will see visions."
Seeler
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Daniel - my appologies to anyone who might be reading along. Knowing that my reading plan has the books out-of-order, I should have let you know what was coming next.
Unlike many of the other books of 'the prophets' which weere generallly written in the first person, this book is written in the third person, not by Daniel but by Daniel.
Daniel was a Hebrew (Jew) living in Judea at the time of the Babylonian conquest under King Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel and his friends (Shadrack, Meshack and Abedigo) were deported to Babylon. Daniel was a dreamer and an interpreter of dreams.
The first six chapters contain familiar Sunday School lessons from my childhood (I don't believe they are covered by recent UCC curriculum) -
The three friends in the firery furnace. Daniel in the lions' den, and the 'writing on the wall' which Daniel interpreted as a warning to King Belzhazzer. In chapter five Belzhazzar replaces Nebuchadnezzar with no explanation given.
Unlike many of the other books of 'the prophets' which weere generallly written in the first person, this book is written in the third person, not by Daniel but by Daniel.
Daniel was a Hebrew (Jew) living in Judea at the time of the Babylonian conquest under King Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel and his friends (Shadrack, Meshack and Abedigo) were deported to Babylon. Daniel was a dreamer and an interpreter of dreams.
The first six chapters contain familiar Sunday School lessons from my childhood (I don't believe they are covered by recent UCC curriculum) -
The three friends in the firery furnace. Daniel in the lions' den, and the 'writing on the wall' which Daniel interpreted as a warning to King Belzhazzer. In chapter five Belzhazzar replaces Nebuchadnezzar with no explanation given.
Magic conversion to another word and the belle was had without a Bo? Belle ringer?
Much gurgling encountered ... like the slurp of Coriolis ... as we are drawn into the whetting of the story ... sharpening of sole?
Seeler
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Daniel 7-8 - Daniel has weird dreams and visions of 4 strange beasts, horns. the Ancient of Days and one like the son of man. Hee interprets them as referring to the end times.
Ch. 9 - Daniel's prayer
The book of Revelation in the Christian scriptures echos Daniel's vision.
Ch. 9 - Daniel's prayer
The book of Revelation in the Christian scriptures echos Daniel's vision.
Does this suggest extensive reflection or weird cognizance coming to light ... with considerable bounce?
Seeler
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Finished Daniel. More strange visions (or dreams) about the one 'like a man' and end times.
I can see why this isn't included in the more recent curriculum materials: despite being exciting stories for children.
Actually I'm tempted to say that I found little of value in this book; except perhaps it gives us some idea of the courage and tenacity required to live your faith when forcibly separated from your homeland and living as a minority among people of a different culture and religion. Perhaps then you will need to 'dare to be a Daniel'.
How did the Jewish people maintain their faith while scattered throughout the world and often persecuted?
I think of the refugees coming to Canada - so different than what they are used to. How do they adjust to life here while still following their Islamic religion?
How will Christians survive if the world becomes a hostile place?
Ezra comes next.
I can see why this isn't included in the more recent curriculum materials: despite being exciting stories for children.
Actually I'm tempted to say that I found little of value in this book; except perhaps it gives us some idea of the courage and tenacity required to live your faith when forcibly separated from your homeland and living as a minority among people of a different culture and religion. Perhaps then you will need to 'dare to be a Daniel'.
How did the Jewish people maintain their faith while scattered throughout the world and often persecuted?
I think of the refugees coming to Canada - so different than what they are used to. How do they adjust to life here while still following their Islamic religion?
How will Christians survive if the world becomes a hostile place?
Ezra comes next.
chansen
Had a point all along
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Thankfully, they've figured out how to be hostile first.
Mendalla
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Following up on chansen's post, they might want to ask people like witches and non-orthodox Christians, who had to survive in a hostile place created by Christians, for some advice.
Seeler
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Like the Jews in exile in Babylon, and Jews ever since, and any minority group maintaining their identity and their belief system must have been difficult at times. I imagine that over the years many would give up and and alllow themselves to disappear into the majority culture to havve their roots disappear except in fairy tales and folk lore, if at all.
BetteTheRed
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Discovered last year during Ramadan how hard it is on the kids. It's enough that they fast from sun-up to sun-down, but when Ramadan happens in June in a northern country, it's a long, long day without food or water, surrounded by kids who are eating and drinking with abandon. It's quite different in a primarily Islamic country (a bonus is that many of them are closer to the equator, so fewer day-length fluctuations) where all of your classmates are in the same situation.